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train22
08-31-01, 12:49 PM
Okay, I justed tried it, all the fans work fine but I get no visual on screen?!?! Please tell me I made a really dumb mistake.. what could have gone wrong I did everything correctly...or so I thought. One time it started and said memory should be lined up from DIMM4 to DIMM1, I thought I placed my stick in the last instead of first so I swapped it to the 4th one (farthest away even though it's labeled 4 not 1, and now I get nothing, before I got nothing too, just 1 time it showed my that error, I'd appreciate any help,


BIGG THANX!!!

ps. didn't even oc yet, first boot...

train22
08-31-01, 01:10 PM
Any1 there know what could be wrong???

dborden
08-31-01, 01:13 PM
Does your motherboard power up? Are you getting any beep error codes? If so what is it? Does the fan on the CPU start up?

rugby
08-31-01, 01:16 PM
Hold down Insert when booting. it will reset the bios. Does your computer post?

train22
08-31-01, 01:17 PM
yes the fan on the cpu starts up, I don't think I got any beeps at all, and as for the mobo, It started up once to tell me the memory was in the wrong slot (on the second try) then I switched tried 2 more times and nothign

train22
08-31-01, 01:18 PM
what is post??
I get no screen signal as if it's not connected to the pc anymore but it is of course


ps.. tried holding insert, nothing... it's not responding to anything
Could it be my memory?

dborden
08-31-01, 01:21 PM
Ok if your machine boots up and all the fans are running including the CPU fan but you still get no picture then most likely it is the video card. But you should be getting some kind of beep. At least one beep. That of course assuming that the motherboard powers up. With that motherboard the memory needs to be in the slot farthest away from the CPU. Try fiddling with the video card a bit and making sure it is tight.

If your motherboard does not power up and your fans don't turn on your motherboard is fried.....

train22
08-31-01, 01:24 PM
plz don't use those words, I can't afford that kind of talk, but yeah ALL fans including cpu fan are on... remeber that IT DID turn on once to tell me the memory is in the wrong place, so how could the graphic card be a problem??? I'll fiddle with it in 2 secs, brb...

ps.... NOPE.. card is hard and well inside the slot, no beeps or anything if I could hear over the loud fans...

train22
08-31-01, 01:29 PM
what now? ahhh, any1 here have AIM that can help me? cause this is going to take too much time for all of us. (Don't have icq on this p2 i'm on

Valid
08-31-01, 01:49 PM
I had the same problem. It was my MC462 shorting out the motherboard (the little mounting studs, taht is). I replaced it with a SVCompucycle Golden Gate 40 and all has been working well since.

dborden
08-31-01, 01:53 PM
Start swapping components one at a time and take your MB out of the case and try connecting it up to see if it will run to check and see if there is a short anywhere.

train22
08-31-01, 01:57 PM
ok, I just turned it on, nothign went as usual, then for the heck of it I pressed restart, it turned on and I went to bios, there was an x next to the CPU settings used to OC, but I am not worried about that quite yet, I set teh time and the cpu speed, it noticed my ram, HD, and cdrom, now what was wrong? I quit the bios and it blacked out, shut down, powered up and nothing, pressed restart, nothign? I see no pattern? I'll look for a short now but do you have any ideas? it sometimes starts sometimes doesn't?!?!

ps... I am using an SK6 HSF which seems to be very safe it doesn't use screws and it only uses a clip that shouldn't short, could I have scratched the board with a screwdriver? if that happen would it start up 2 times but randomly????

dborden
08-31-01, 02:00 PM
Check and make sure that your pin are connected correctly to the correct pins and in the correct orientation(the ones that connect to speaker, reset, hddled etc...) Since you said it never beeped and your having trouble getting it to turn on it might be that you have them backwards or in the wrong locations.

Otherwise the possibility of a short on the MB is definately still a possiblity.

dborden
08-31-01, 02:02 PM
When we say "short" it could be a short anywhere on the MB. Not necessarily buy the cpu. Anything conductive laying across the board, like a screw, metal wire, etc... could short the board. Even screws used to screw the MB into the chassis can short a board. I always use plastic screws.

train22
08-31-01, 02:05 PM
well, I don't think it's a short becuase I screwed it correctly everywhere and it is screwed into special metal holes that I think will isolate anything of that possiblity, as for the pins, its not that it won't turn on, it ALWAYS turn on, the fans turn on perfectly, I just don't get a dang thing on the screen.

dborden
08-31-01, 02:08 PM
Do you have a spare video card. What type of card is it. I can't count the numbe rof times I could have swore that my card was in snug as a bug in a rug and I wouldn't get a picture. Taking it out and pushing it in or wiggling it or trying a different card altogther.

train22
08-31-01, 02:19 PM
ok, I think of of the screws was the prob, you see, it broke but it really stayed on its place and it still wasn't going to come out so I just left it broking there, I dunno why but I touched it and now it works fine, I might fix it sometime in the future but I want to install win2k now so sit tight, and wish me luck, it also doesn't startup when I hit Cntl+ALT+DEL, it only does it from the power or reset button. oh well thanx guys, I'll be back in a min with some probs you'll see, lol. By the way... why was the cpu settins ALL grayed in? not even FSB??? why why why???

train22
08-31-01, 03:20 PM
Good news and strange News:

Good:
I am currently installing Win2k and found the prob I was having earlier

Strange:
The problem was the strange news, you see when I turn on my pc with the "Power" button nothing shows up on the screen, the fans turn on etc but nothing on-screen, when I then press "reset" it boots. I can't turn my pc off with niether one of the buttons on touch, only way is to hold my "Power" button for 2-3 secs. Another strange thing is that Cntl+Alt+Del does the same exact thing as the "Power Button" It will not restart the pc untill I hit reset??? Can any1 clear this up for me? I don't think I wired up the wrong wires becuase I can't start the fans with the reset only after I power... Anyone???

dborden
08-31-01, 03:38 PM
Swap your pin connectors for reset SW and power SW on the motherboard. You plugged them in wrong!!!!

train22
08-31-01, 03:53 PM
Are you sure? Because then won't it not turn on the PC unless I hit the reset first??


PS... they are exactly the way the manual shows it in the pic

dborden
08-31-01, 04:00 PM
I just dunno. Sounds like something is shorted or miswired. its not a hardware problem from what I gather.

train22
08-31-01, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by dborden
I just dunno. Sounds like something is shorted or miswired. its not a hardware problem from what I gather.

Could it just be the case works wierd? any1 else have an AntecSX840?????????????

train22
08-31-01, 05:20 PM
found the prob guys, and you know what I just remembered that some1 had the exact same problem as me I just didn't understand what he meant, some1 came here and said he can't shut down or somthing because he had a netgear ethernet card and I have similar problems. It has nothing to do with o/c though.

Bottum line is:
DO NOT BUY NETGEAR ETHERNET CARDS

rugby
08-31-01, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by train22
found the prob guys, and you know what I just remembered that some1 had the exact same problem as me I just didn't understand what he meant, some1 came here and said he can't shut down or somthing because he had a netgear ethernet card and I have similar problems. It has nothing to do with o/c though.

Bottum line is:
DO NOT BUY NETGEAR ETHERNET CARDS


BAH! I should have caught that one. I remember reading a review of the KG&-Raid and the author was having all sorts of stability problems entirely 100% traceable to the netgear ethernet card. APparantly the netgear chipset has a problem with the AMD 761 chipset I think.

train22
08-31-01, 07:43 PM
yes. Read that too