Durons cache will it ever hit higher then 64k?

[i12bina3]

will the cache of the duron ever hit higher then 64k or did it already with the 1gig?
or is that the only difference between the athlon and the duron?

[Neptune]

Very doubtful as the cache is what seperates the duron from the "performance" market.

I suppose if the AthlonXP gets 512k of L2 cache someday, they could give the duron 128k or 256, that'd be kewl.

[SickBoy]

I doubt it will until the Celeron gets more.... if it does sooner than that, it'll always play second fiddle, because AMD's flagship chip will always have more. Especially since there's little difference between a Duron and an Athlon other than that.

SickBoy

[oc jason]

Personally i think the Druon will not make the next processor cut. AFter the morgan i think thats all we see of that core chip. I mean i know AMD has plans for it but they really dont need it. Look how low the tbird prices have become. And once the Palamino comes out itll drop even more till the tbird IS a budget chip. I bought mny tr=bird 750 for $57 and that was like 6 months ago, now they are even cheaper., ALsso the tbird 1 gig is $20 less than the Duron 1 gig and it is faster due to the cache. So why buy the Duron?? THere is no reason to. for a 1 gig Duron price you can get a 1.2gig tbird - 200mhz more speed and 4x the cache, how can u go wrong, TO me the Duron is almost obselete

Thats just my opinion

[Mojoman]

Obsolete? You really are talking out of your arse, friend. I suggest you go get your self a duron 900 for 45quid.

Look, these new Duron1ghz - Their sales will be very low until the next ones out - 1.1 or 1.2 - thats why everyone buys duron 900s - because the duron 933 is 10 quid more and only 33mhz - and there is nothing wrong with a duron - for their price they give an AMAZING performance - In Sisoft Sandra 2001 - My duron 900 is faster than the Tbird 1ghz listed - and with a FSB overclock (100 to 108) will give me 972mhz and it will beat the P4 1.5 in most of the tests - (xcept the second bar in CPU benchmark - it uses SSE2)

I bet you probably never had a duron - you got a tbird 750??? Dude a duron 900 is so cheap - y do u think its crap?

Then again thats my opinion - no scratch that it is now EVERYBODIES opinion - if you dont like then you can just go **** yourself you smelly ***** ******!!!! *deep breath* ....Get the **** outta here - you ****** mother *******.

Okay all done - have a nice day

[TechnoFile]

Wow Mojoman is a little cranky....

I'm not sure that price can really be a big selling point for the Duron for much longer.... I just checked pricewatch, and they've got the Duron 1Ghz listed at $85 - thats a whopping six dollars less than a 1.2, 266FSB T-bird. A better comparison, a 200FSB T-Bird 1Ghz is (oddly enough) $6 LESS than the Duron.... and the T-Bird will yield slightly better performance(since it has a larger cache).

And just so no one can call me a hypocrite, yes, I do personally run a Duron processor... Its a 700 that I've had for some time(back when the Duron WAS a good price alternative to a T-Bird), and I am more than happy with the performance.

[TRANCER24]

Did you guys forget that the 1ghz Duron has the new core that is why it cost more because it is still new. Ive read that it outperformed the 1ghz tbird in most benchmarks. We just have to see how good of an overclocker it is. This might be my next chip..

[i12bina3]

lol @ mojoman ... i have to agree with him (mojoman)
i think the duron is an excellent chip ... very cheap and very nice to overclock ...
btw cpus arent gonna be this cheap for another year or so ... prices will rise and duron will once again be the favorite chip
:)

[xanthan]

I went to fry's electronics yesterday to buy a athlon 900ish cpu and a new MB.....well i came home with a duron 900 and MB for 89 bucks lol.

its still new to me but from the benchmarks im getting on sandra and a couple others it compares to the tbird 1gig with just a tiny OC. i have not even messed with the bios settings much yet either.

thanks, Xan.

[Liquidsky]

To clear things up, the duron doesn't have 4x less cache but half the total cache of the athlon. You have to count the total and not the L2 since the cache on current amd cpus add up to form one single one which is more effective since the data in the L1 is not duplicated in the L2. So the duron has 192KB, the athlon has 384KB. It has 4x less the L2 cache but not 4x less the cache. Get it. In my tests the Duron is slower than the Athlon by about 90-105 Mhz depending on tests. So you need a 1.1 Ghz Duron (spitfire) or a 1.05 Ghz Duron (morgan) to keep up with a 1Ghz Athlon (Thunderbird). So the Duron is not that bad depending on the price.

[Jon]

Originally posted by Mojoman
Obsolete? You really are talking out of your arse, friend. I suggest you go get your self a duron 900 for 45quid.

Look, these new Duron1ghz - Their sales will be very low until the next ones out - 1.1 or 1.2 - thats why everyone buys duron 900s - because the duron 933 is 10 quid more and only 33mhz - and there is nothing wrong with a duron - for their price they give an AMAZING performance - In Sisoft Sandra 2001 - My duron 900 is faster than the Tbird 1ghz listed - and with a FSB overclock (100 to 108) will give me 972mhz and it will beat the P4 1.5 in most of the tests - (xcept the second bar in CPU benchmark - it uses SSE2)

I bet you probably never had a duron - you got a tbird 750??? Dude a duron 900 is so cheap - y do u think its crap?

Then again thats my opinion - no scratch that it is now EVERYBODIES opinion - if you dont like then you can just go **** yourself you smelly ***** ******!!!! *deep breath* ....Get the **** outta here - you ****** mother *******.

Okay all done - have a nice day

I hope this was a joke.

[Hoot]

I own an AMD Duron 600 that overclocks to 1.1G. It was my first AMD processor and I love it as much as my 1.0/266 Tbird that does 1.5G. AMD will continue to produce Durons as long as they sell enough to make it worth their while. Its performance has nothing to do with it. AMD is in the business to make money. They make money by selling product. They do not make the Duron because we overclockers think so highly of it. That does not put money in their account. As a matter of fact, sales to overclockers probably constitutes somewhere in the 100ths of 1 percent of their sales.
That, having been said. I also believe the T-bird will some day be the low end AMD processor and the Duron will be but a fond memory. I can't say when that will happen. It's a great processor, but from my experiences benchmarking it, I'd say it runs about 5-7% slower than a T-bird at the same speed. In practical sense, it is hard to see the difference without a benchmark program. I do know one thing. The Tbird gulps power compared to the Duron and that may be the factor that keeps the Duron around for some time to come.
It's perfectly fine to disagree with one another. That's what makes these forums fun to participate in. In disagreeing, we do not need to bash one another though.

Hoot