sell my duron 750 for a 600

[i12bina3]

would it be a good idea to sell my duron 750 for lets say 20$ + duron 600 ... a friend of mine has a duron 600 and he isnt going to OC it so i was thinking why dont i give him my 750 and he gives me his 600 with a little compensation

[Placid]

I just looked at pricewatch and the duron 750 can be bought new for $31.00
So getting $20.00 and a 600 for yours is a good deal.

[i12bina3]

ok im just guessing a price ... maybe it ll be only 10$
but would YOU do it? i know they OC great ... so i would easily get 750 out of it ... with some luck 900 or even higher :)
or dont you think so?
my 750 is now running at 840 @ 1.600vcore
but i cant seem to get higher

[Placid]

Depends on the stepping code and luck.
Here is a chart that might be of some help.

http://www.athlonoc.com/stepping3.php

[raerbaer]

it could be a good deal for both of you. your friend will get a 750,
you will get one to play with. my first try with the 600 was good.
i got to 900, 150x6, 1.6v.

[Bender]

If your friends 600 is an AKBA I would definately make a trade. My AKBA duron did 1050@1.85v FOP38, 1102@2.11v FOP38, and 1200@2.33v water cooled. Most 600 AKBA 600s hit 1000 easily with decent cooling.

[i12bina3]

placid, bender help me with this ... just checked the stepping ... my duron 750 is an AKCA ... the stepping table tells me that baby can hit more than 1gig ... but i cant get over the 840 ... what should i do ... i want to get it higher but it just doesnt go

[Placid]

List your motherboard,memory ect. and how your overclocking now multipier,fsb & cpu voltage.

[i12bina3]

kt7e
duron 750 @ 840 (112*7.5 / still locked) @ 1.65vcore
cheapo hsf ... coolermaster @ 5000rpm ... but my cpu doesnt get that hot ... never above 47-48 (these temps i get after playing cs for about an hour or two )
two sticks of 128mb ram pc 133 ... one is corsair other is major third
TDK 16/10/40
Maxtor 7200rpm / 13gig
win2k sp2
thats about it
thx for trying to help me appreciate it
i did several posts about the problem to not go any higher with it but nobody noticed i guess

[Placid]

If you unlock it and your motherboard allows multiplier adjustments then you might be able to get more mhz out of it.

[i12bina3]

so you think it aint possible to oc it anymore using the fsb?

[Placid]

Not sure, I see Would71 running a duron 750 at 150mhz.
So I guess it should be possible.
Have you tried raising your cpu voltage when you raise your fsb yet he is using a vcore of 2.15v?
But maybe something like 1.9v could help you without too much heat.

[eobard]

If it was me I'd up the voltage to max (I'm assuming 1.85) and increase the multiplier but not before putting a better sink on the system. My sig chip's an AKCA and it runs a temp of 50c max (except during last month's heatwave when it hit 54c) but when I had it locked and running at 880mhz it was about 10c lower than yours at 840mhz. I know our setups aren't identical but the're fairly close so I'd expect your post overclock / overvolt temps to be around 60c, high enough to merit a better sink / fan.

[ymNA]

Mine is a AKCA too, idle at 33-36 load at 45 - 48. try to connect the L7 to get 1.85 volt. maybe get a better HSF cuz u'll up the volt and the temp should be up. best to keep it below 50 or so.

[r_stripe]

Unfortunately not all Durons will run in the higher FSB range....atleast mine doesnt...I've got a 850 Duron and top end on the FSB is 116. Anything higher and no post. My voltage is as high as I can take it 1.85v, but I've seen others supposedly hitting the 150 range.....either higer voltage or better line of cpu's came off the line.
Anywho, just my two cents worth. ;)

[Bubba]

I'd also just try it with the one stick of Corsair in it and put the other one to bed.It may be holding you up.

[i12bina3]

yes i tought that as well ... i will try that today
thx for all the help people ... i hope i can get it higher
i'll keep you informed

[i12bina3]

ok i got it running at 863 (115*7.5) @ 1.80vcore
my max temp is 50c after 50 burn ins with sandra ... but when i finish with the burn ins it just locks up ... strange or not?
im planning on buying a fop32 or should i buy something else?
some help would be great ... thx

[Oneiron]

it probably locks up because of you're temps. Temps in the 50's is not good. Another thing... why only 115 FSB? Can't you get it to go any higher?

[i12bina3]

euh thats just my problem ... didnt you read about it?
i cant go anyhigher it crashes everytime i go higher then 112fsb ...
im now running it at 115 with my case open and now it seems to be cool and stable ... max temp 42-43
but as soon as i close my case temps go to 50 and then the probs start

[FRANK]

Originally posted by i12bina3
euh thats just my problem ... didnt you read about it?
i cant go anyhigher it crashes everytime i go higher then 112fsb ...
im now running it at 115 with my case open and now it seems to be cool and stable ... max temp 42-43
but as soon as i close my case temps go to 50 and then the probs start

From what I can gather from the ABIT website, the KT7E motherboard uses the original VIA KT133 chipset. This chipset is generally limited to a FSB in the 107/110MHz range. This was remedied with the release of the KT133A chipset with support for the FSB to 150MHz an beyond.

As far as the other issues that may be limiting your efforts, go to the front page of this site and under "beginners guides" you will find a wealth of information to help you understand what is needed to achieve success in your overclocking endeavors. First I would recommend the article about unlocking the L1 bridges.

Good Luck!

[Bender]

To answer your haetsink question I would reccomend a Golden Gate from SVcompucycle.com. You can get one from $18-25 depending on fan configuration.

[i12bina3]

euh frank my mobo normally has a kt133e chipset and it supports bus speeds higher then 107 - 110 if i want i can put a t bird 266 in it ... so i dont think that is the problem
before i bought the board i knew it was a good O/Cing mobo
http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/mainboards/abit/kt7e/
here you can see the specs about it
i know it says 200 but it should easily hit 266

[i12bina3]

frank this is a piece that was been written in the review of hard ocp about my mobo
"The KT133E, while it does not officially support 133MHz will sure as hell do 133/266 FSB, but that is close to tops for it. I have had two of these boards in my hands and both would run a solid 137/274 FSB but not much more and be stable. I have seen reports of some of these boards doing 140/280, and while mine would do it, they would not do it well enough to sign off on the board as "working correctly". We used our AMD 1.33GHz Athlon on this board to test with and could easily push it to 1.5GHz. We went with the faster CPU instead of a Duron on this value board so that we could really stress the board up to the edge of the envelope. Our OC from 1.33 to 1.5GHz may not seem like much of a push, but remember, we did not have a lot of FSB to work with. Even back in the day of the Pentium, bus speed was king and in my book it still is. Giving up a few MHz on the clock to gain a few on the bus is always worthwhile."

[joey_rjm5]

I too am having trouble with my 750 AKCA I have used it at 160fsb but it will only do that with a low multiplier (like 5.5). I can't seem to get it over 850 though without it no booting up when I try to reboot. I think it might be a power supply thing though. Right now I am running it @150x5.5.

I am going to hook another power supply up and see how it goes. my 5v rail is usually off alot too.

[i12bina3]

i am starting to think that it is the duron itself that just wont go any higher ... i hope this isnt the case
if it is im definitly going to change for a duron 600
the stepping for a duron 750 like mine is 1gig ... so thats real strange
hope ill get it fixed when i have my new cooling ... although i think that isnt the problem of my system :(

[!-=sky=-!]

another thought about your board being not able to do higher fsb...


will it be because the motherboard/case temp is high?
this might be possible....as my kt133 board can do 133+fsb for some reason