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Evil T C
09-27-04, 02:38 AM
help!

i dont have a clue bout dos programs,i'v tried to find a guide for running memtest but came up with nothing.

if one of you many kind people could give me directions it would be most appretiated

TIA

Reefa_Madness
09-27-04, 06:34 AM
How far along are you in the process? In other words, have you already gone to the site and downloaded the program and have it in a floppy or are you totally at "step #1" of the process and needing to know where to go and what to do?

Reefa_Madness
09-27-04, 06:46 AM
I'll just cover the bases. The following links would be good places to start.

By the way, there are two "versions" of this program, one is called Memtest86 and the other is Memtest86+ (Note the "+"). This latter one in an updated one which displays some additional information on the main screen, such as your mobo's chipset and the ram's latencies. The first link below is to the original, the second to the newer. They are so close in how they operate that you can consider them identical and in fact, may be. There probably are differences, I just couldn't tell you what they are.

Hope this helps answer some of your questions.

http://memtest86.com

http://www.memtest.org/

http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442&page=1&pp=15

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50588

yo4444
09-27-04, 07:27 AM
Actually, memtest 86+ is much more intense.. I noticed with "+" that with anything other than stock settings and very mild OC, I would error out, whereas regular memtest AND PRIME would run error free up to 241 fsb with relatively tight timings for my ram... It may have been a problem with my particular setup, but I have read similar things from others... Just be sure it is the latest ver of memtest 86 regular you are getting..Here (http://www.memtest86.com/)
Here's how to do it..
Get a blank floppy and format it creating a bootable floppy disk
1 DL memtest
2 Extract it to the bootable floppy... you will not be able to read the floppy
from windows/my computer once this is done...
3 leave the floppy in the drive and reboot
4 the test should begin by itself

Catalan
09-27-04, 07:37 AM
I can't seem to get this one to work with a CD can someone run me through on how to do so? I've made a bootable CD with the original memtest, but for some reason I can't do so with this one...

rack04
09-27-04, 07:40 AM
Is making a bootable floopy in XP the same in previous windows versions (right click, format, bootable)?

moz_21
09-27-04, 07:45 AM
There is also an ISO image of memtest86+ that you can just burn to cd and it will run automatically.

Reefa_Madness
09-27-04, 07:46 AM
I've never gone the CD route, but I was under the impression that the steps were the same for either version.

Catalan
09-27-04, 07:47 AM
That's exactly what I did. I dl'ed the ISO, unzipped files to desktop, placed file onto disk, burnt it and BLOAH doesn't work T_T

Reefa_Madness
09-27-04, 08:06 AM
Aren't you supposed to burn this specifically as an ISO image file or something like that? I am working off memory here so I am not positive. I am thinking that is one of the options you have to select, in NERO, for example.

You may have done that but since you didn't state it, I thought I would just ask the question.

I know there are some people out there that have done this, so please feel free to add your comments.

Catalan
09-27-04, 08:10 AM
Memtest86 3.1a came with a BOOT folder that contained files that you would burn onto a disk. This Memtest does not come with it, I open up the zip file to see another zip file that contains nothing in it. Download both to see what I'm talking about.

moz_21
09-27-04, 08:43 AM
That's exactly what I did. I dl'ed the ISO, unzipped files to desktop, placed file onto disk, burnt it and BLOAH doesn't work T_T

Heres your problem then. You extracted the files from the ISO. Dont do that. Just right click the ISO, open with, then use nero or some burning program and it will burn it as a boot disk. GL

Reefa_Madness
09-27-04, 11:28 AM
Heres your problem then. You extracted the files from the ISO. Dont do that. Just right click the ISO, open with, then use nero or some burning program and it will burn it as a boot disk. GL

I thought that might be his problem as well, so I downloaded the .iso file as he suggested and have recorded the steps I took to burn a working copy. It was tested and it works correctly. The steps I took are as follows:

1) Downloaded .ISO version
2) Unzip/expand zipped file to a temp folder that you can easily locate
3) Open up Nero (Express in my case)
4) Select the option to burn a "Disc image or saved project"
5) Locate your .ISO file and select it, it will then show this file as the Source
6) Select your burn speed and # of copies and Burn, Baby, Burn

This worked for me without a hitch. For those not familiar with using the CD, be sure to change the Boot order in BIOS to boot first from CD.

The link below is to a site which shows how to burn ISO images, in general.

http://www.weethet.nl/english/cdrw_usingnero_iso.php

sQUiRLy
09-27-04, 06:07 PM
be sure to change the Boot order in BIOS to boot first from CD.


That's probably the solution to Catalan's problem. I found that Microsoft makes a memory tester program that has a more simplified approach to making a boot disk: http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp#top Just thought I'd throw that in.

Reefa_Madness
09-27-04, 08:35 PM
That's probably the solution to Catalan's problem. I found that Microsoft makes a memory tester program that has a more simplified approach to making a boot disk: http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp#top Just thought I'd throw that in.

I read about that Memory Diagnostic program in some forum, but when I tried to link to it, the link was broken and I could not locate it. I'm glad to shared that link. Its bookmarked now.

Catalan
09-28-04, 02:54 AM
Yeah, I changed the boot order. Seeing if reefa's way works.

Catalan
09-28-04, 02:57 AM
Alright! It works, thanks Reefa.

Reefa_Madness
09-28-04, 05:00 AM
Alright! It works, thanks Reefa.

Glad to hear it worked for you.

Actually, I should thank you. Remember that I stated earlier that I had never done it this way? I had on many occassions, however, told myself that I wanted to try it. This got me off my rear and I finally tried it and now I know how to do it as well, so it really helped me as much as it helped you.

Evil T C
09-28-04, 04:47 PM
i had already downloaded 86 but wasnt sure if i needed to use a bootable disk first then have memtest on another disk. also do i write the whole folder onto the disk or just selected files?
im guessing here but i have to make sure that my floppy driveis first in the boot order in bios yes?

Reefa_Madness
09-28-04, 05:46 PM
i had already downloaded 86 but wasnt sure if i needed to use a bootable disk first then have memtest on another disk. also do i write the whole folder onto the disk or just selected files?
im guessing here but i have to make sure that my floppy driveis first in the boot order in bios yes?

With the floppy version you just make sure you have a formatted floppy available. Unzip the download and then you execute the install file. It will ask you what drive letter to copy the files to and it does it all on its own. That is just an overview, as I haven't had to do it in a while. If you have troubles, post here and I'll do one and write the steps like I did with the CD method.

And yes, make sure that the system will look to the floppy first.

Reefa_Madness
09-28-04, 06:55 PM
Well, this question comes up on a regular basis so I'l do a quick "this is how I do it".

Be sure that you have a clean, formatted floppy available.

1) Download one of the programs
Original - http://memtest86.com/
Revision - http://www.memtest.org/

2) Unzip files, either on to desktop or to a temp folder. You should have four files visible.

3) Execute the "install" file, be sure to already have a floppy in your drive at this point. The DOS type screen will display after executing the install, with version info and asking that you "enter target diskette drive". Enter the drive letter of your floppy and hit "Enter".

4) Files will be copied to your floppy drive and a message will indicate when the process is complete, plus some brief "how-to" info.

5) Close window. You are done. Be sure to change the BOOT order to floppy first prior to starting your testing. Be sure to return to your original order when you are done testing.

Well, that is what I do and so far, it has worked for me. One last thing, you cannot explore this floppy in Windows. The files will not be visible.

Evil T C
09-29-04, 03:15 AM
perfect reefa thanks :)

just what i was looking for