View Full Version : Trying to find: small rad 90-120mm, fit in a case, and use a slient fan...
legendosiris
09-28-04, 11:58 AM
hey guys, i'm getting rdy to order my first rig and i'm kind of stuck on which rad to get. It has to be relatively small so i can fit it in the front of my Lanfire case.
I'm leaning towards one of the D-tek pro's, DD black ice extreme, or Swiftech 120.
Are there other alternatives? Btw, noise is a big factor so i dont plan on putting a behemoth fan on it.
the rest of the parts i plan on are:
CPU Block: Swiftech MCW6000 - Wanna move it to A64 when i upgrade (hopefully soon)
GPU block: Swiftech MCW50 or possibly DD maze4 (still readin up on this)
Pump: Swiftech mpc650. seems my best bet and not loud, i like how it will run off my pc power.
I'm also planning on trying a T-line setup if that matters.
magick_man
09-28-04, 12:05 PM
i am not fimiliar with that case but i would think any single 120 heatercore would work, as for the fan i a not sure on that one
maybe a panaflo 120X38 ultra high fan http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/pa12ulhisp.html
if it is too loud run it at 7v or off a fan controller and it should be fine.
hope this helps.
~Magick_Man~
magick_man
09-28-04, 12:10 PM
http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCase/lanfire/vm2000a.htm
is this the case you have?
i bet a dual 120mm core would fit if you didnt use your 3.5 bays
and didnt mind whipping out the dremel.
it might be worth it but if you dont want to then im sure the single core would work just fine.
~Magick_Man~
legendosiris
09-28-04, 12:18 PM
http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCase/lanfire/vm2000a.htm
is this the case you have?
i bet a dual 120mm core would fit if you didnt use your 3.5 bays
and didnt mind whipping out the dremel.
it might be worth it but if you dont want to then im sure the single core would work just fine.
~Magick_Man~
yeah thats my case. i thought about that, but i'm not sure where i would put my 2 HD's, currently SATA Raid-0.
http://projectosiris.com/images/insidecase.jpg
I thought i could possibly put a dual 120mm Rad in at an angle with the top at the front of the case and angle it down, where the bottom meets the motherboard like a "/" hehe. I could even hack off the bottom of the HD bay to make some room. Mind you i still dont want it to get loud..prolly the main reason i'm going W/C is for a quieter system so i can sleep with it on hehe.
magick_man
09-28-04, 01:03 PM
you could get adapters to mount them in the 5.25 bays and if you get th eright ones you might make it quieter in the process
but with a dual core and 2 of those panaflo's (maybe slowed a little bit) i bet it would be pretty quiet.
would you be up for hacking the front out of your case?
if you did it you wouldnt have any 3.5 bays, ever again
unless you used adapters to mount them into the 5.25 bays.
that is what i did, removed both front 3.5 bays and mounted my hdd's with zipties in my 5.25 bays and hacked the front of my case out.
http://tinypic.com/a19pc
http://tinypic.com/a19oy
like that
~Magick_Man~
legendosiris
09-28-04, 02:17 PM
how tall (inches or CM) is that setup inside your case?
Just realised my front USB and Firewire ports would be right in the cut out path for a full dual 120.
So what now?? hrmmm.
Right now i think the d-tek pro120 may be a good solution or Swiftech's 120 rad.
how big of a difference performance wise between a dual 120 and single?
DocGiggs
09-28-04, 02:35 PM
I have a lanfire and I am still looking around as well for a good WC setup I would like. I know which items I want as well except for the rad as well :) I'm not going to have do as much hacking since I'm going to be creating a wind tunnel for the rad in the bottom of the case. Just need to cut out a 6" blowhole in the front for my fan... yes, it's that farking big heh. Stupid hole cutters for 6" run at $40 at home depot too... hrmm alot to spend for a limited time use item.
I look forward to seeing any pics of anything that you do with the lanfire case though.
Check Dtek's scratch and dent section before you get anything. I got my pro rad for $25 with barbs installed and it just had a couple scratches in the paint finish and two small bent fins. To me $25 is A LOT better then getting a heater core and having to weld the proper size barbs on it. Plus its around the same price.
legendosiris
09-28-04, 03:55 PM
Where can i find which small rad is best?
DTEk Pro 120
Swiftech 120
DD Blackice Pro and Extreme
i see those everywhere but havent been able to find info on which is best?
Everyone will have their opinion of which is best. I have only used the Dtek pro 120 and it works very well for me. You wont find too much difference in performance from rads of the same size, sometimes you will get a couple c difference but I have never seen one stand out above all others in the same size range.
legendosiris
09-28-04, 04:40 PM
perhaps i should got about this a different way....
Which the 3 mentiond rads allow air to move most freely thru it not requiring a huge jet fan to cool it?? 'eh is that any better? heheh
My only issue is that the damn DD rads are near 2x the price of the others?!?! so i'm bout to drop those right of the list unless some can prove they are worth the money
As I said go check out Dtek's Scratch and Dent section. You can get one of the a Pro or even Extreme if they are listed for half the price if not less. And just because it has a scratched finish, which doesnt matter anyway since the rad is usually in the case or behind it. That will make it cheaper then any of the others.
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=128
Like that one for example. Just check back over a few days till they get one in stock. They are fairly commonly stocked
legendosiris
09-28-04, 04:49 PM
yeah i looked at those earlier. thats what prompted my performance question.
btw thanx for the tip on the scratch and dent group. If i cant find anything proving that i'll be better off going with something else, thats what i'm getting ;)
perhaps i should got about this a different way....
Which the 3 mentiond rads allow air to move most freely thru it not requiring a huge jet fan to cool it?? 'eh is that any better? heheh
My only issue is that the damn DD rads are near 2x the price of the others?!?! so i'm bout to drop those right of the list unless some can prove they are worth the money
Thinner rads are going to cause less restriction. The BI Pro is .98" thick, BIX is 1.25", Pro Core is 1 3/8", the swiftech is also .98". So either the swiftech or the BI Pro would be better in that case.
legendosiris
09-28-04, 05:07 PM
Thinner rads are going to cause less restriction. The BI Pro is .98" thick, BIX is 1.25", Pro Core is 1 3/8", the swiftech is also .98". So either the swiftech or the BI Pro would be better in that case.
the thin swiftech is the dual 120 one right? not the regular 120 they have?? i thought that one was about 1.5" thick?
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