Help Needed On CPU Temp Please...

[The G.O.A.T]

Guys,

It's laugh-at-the-newbie-time:) Seriously though, i could really do with some advice, i'll do my best at explaining my problem.

Firstly let me apologise if a topic like this has been posted allready, i'm new to the board (can you guess?;)

Right, i've just bought a new setup and attempted to fit it. It goes a little like this:

Athlon 1.4ghz 266FSB
Thermaltake Mini Super Orb (recommended upto 1.5Ghz supposedly)
Gigabyte GA-7DX motherboard
All the usual extras but they aren't causing the problem.

I successfully fitted the lot, the Mini Super Orb was a right pain to clip on but i eventually managed it, all on snugly. I went into BIOS, checked the PC Health status and, bang, a CPU temperature of 62 Degrees C appeared on the screen. This slowly climbed before my eyes right upto 74 Degrees C. I'm guessing i'm right in saying thats something to worry about?

I then realised what i'd done, I hadn't applied the thermal paste! So what i want to ask you guys with all the knowledge is:

1. Whats the ideal temperature of my CPU (with the paste!)?
2. Will the thermal paste make that bigger difference and bring it down to the right temp? (the fans seemed to be operating fine, had an rpm of 6500)

You maybe thinking why haven't i just removed the cooler, applied the paste and then see what the temp is? Well i tried that, and broke one of the white catches on the motherboard (the ones that clip the cooler into place). So i'm kinda stuffed. Would you recommend trying to superglue the catch back on? It did break in a 'good' place and would be easy to glue back on. If not, can i buy replacement catches? Thanks for ANY help you can provide, i appreciate it.

R.A

[UnseenMenace]

Welcome to the Forum,

The Athlon 1.4 in my experience runs a little on the warm side and as such needs a good heatsink fan, unfortunately the ORB can not be considered such and most certainly is not good enough for a 1.4. I would consider replacing this as soon as possible.
The clip that has broken of your socket can be glued back on with 'superglue'
You should also consider case cooling if you have not got any

1) There is no ideal temprature for a CPU and AMD seem to think that the 1.4 is ok up to a temprature of 95c however I personally consider that much above 50c will cause problems
2) A good quality paste such as Artic Silver will give you a slight drop in tempratures ( 1 or 2c ) but nothing like you require, the ORB is your major problem

Hope this helps

[Oneiron]

yeah... get a Global WIN instead! :D They are noisy as he*l, but they REALY get the job done. ;)

[UnseenMenace]

I would suggest the Millennium Gladiator

[The G.O.A.T]

Thanks for the input guys, appreciate it. I certainly won't make the same mistake again.

Do you think i really will need a new fan&heatsink? I only ask because i managed to install Win2000, boot up numerous times without problems, even install and play a couple of 3D games (leaving the machine on for 3-to-4 hour stretches) without a single problem. With a temperature of 74C!

I don't mean to challenge your advice, as i'm sure it's good, but I don't have any intention to overclock it in the future, so is it actually going to do it any damage running at 70C (considering AMD say its ok to run upto 95C!). Providing it doesn't damage it (and it continues to run stable) i'm not too bothered. Thanks again.

R.A

[Oneiron]

You might be able to run with those temps... but remember that the lower you're temps the longer you're CPU will survive. A lot of heat over a long period of time will wear them down eventually.

P.S.
Have you tried using several different programs to read you're temps? You might get faulty readings you know. Try using Motherboard Monitor 5.

[thefly]

If your machine is running 74c when it's under slight load you'd better be watchful if the ambient room temperature shifts whatsoever.

74c means the cooler on your cpu isn't even coming close to doing the job. Most people here would be diving for the power cord and ripping it from the wall.

Run an intense program for an hour, like fah or seti and I bet you machine will crash.

Cooling is extreemly important for amd chips. Amd claims they will run up to 90-95c but I personally believe that the core will not last a week at that temperature.

What temp is your case and bridges running?

[The G.O.A.T]

I see your point. I was checking the temperatures with just the standard PC Health utility in my BIOS, i was also checking with a windows Utility that came with the Gigabyte CD bundled with the motherboard. I'm pretty sure that was called 'gwum' for some odd reason. That was reporting the same temp readings (around 74C).

I can't remember the exact system temperatures, but i do remember it being reasonable, around 30C. Do you think there's a possibility the CPU temp readout is false? It and the heatsink didn't seem very hot to touch at all (straight after the power was turned off obviously).

If i do go for a new cooler (i definitly will if the temp readout was true) what model would you recommend and where's a good place to buy it? Please remember i'm not interested in overclocking in any way, i'd just like to keep my system healthy for normal use.

[Cocytus]

I would definitly get a new cooler. A ThermalRight SK6 is a good HS for the money and should do a good job at cooling your cpu down. Also having at least 2 case fans 1 for intake and 1 for exaust should help too.

[deedoe56]

Hi I am sort of new at all this but I have a couple of questions that I am hoping someone can help me with. What is the temp for my cpu, I have a duran 900, and I was considering getting the dragon orb for a cooler. What do you think. I know my cpu is warmer than it should be.
Second question is more technical, I have a raid board, and I want to know how difficult is it to daisy chain cpus together? I feel that instead of buying a larger cpu, that I could get several cpus and link them together. I know it is possible, but I don't know how exactly to do it. Where can I get that info. I also was thinking about using multi motherboards. Where can I get that info, I intend to build a mussle machine.

[TranceBear]

Originally posted by UnseenMenace
I would suggest the Millennium Gladiator


With a YS fan, much quieter

[Wega!]

Originally posted by deedoe56
Hi I am sort of new at all this but I have a couple of questions that I am hoping someone can help me with. What is the temp for my cpu, I have a duran 900, and I was considering getting the dragon orb for a cooler. What do you think. I know my cpu is warmer than it should be.
Second question is more technical, I have a raid board, and I want to know how difficult is it to daisy chain cpus together? I feel that instead of buying a larger cpu, that I could get several cpus and link them together. I know it is possible, but I don't know how exactly to do it. Where can I get that info. I also was thinking about using multi motherboards. Where can I get that info, I intend to build a mussle machine.

You can use a program called Motherboard Monitor 5, to see what your temps are. You can get it here:http://www.tweakfiles.com/diagnostic/motherboardmonitor.html

I woulden't get the Orb, because orb's aren't soo good, they simply can't keep a AMD in the high end (1.4-?GHz) cool. Take a look at the Thermalright SK6 instead.

I don't understand your question about running more than one CPU.... Please try to explain a little more.

[deedoe56]

Okay what I want to do is apply more than two cpus together. not like on a duel processor board, but phyically connect these cpus together. I know that a lot of big applications run these smaller cpus together rather than get a bigger cpu they use smaller cpus like pentiums I, OR pentium II together, and they become like one larger cpu. In other words I want to put lets say two duran 900's together or three, wire them together, and make one cpu that could be 1.8 or 2.7 gigs if they were phyically wired together in a daisy chain meaning they are linked together with this "daisy chain" affect. I know it has been done by places like NASA. It is pararel processing.