Dvd-buning newb

[CrawlerZX]

hi i have a few questions about dvd burning.

first is, is this negood?


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-182-025&depa=1

2nd is do i need a dual layer disc or ne dvd-r will do?

3rd is do i need to compress the dvd or can i copy everything since it's dual layer.

4th is what's a good dvd-r brand to use?

tnx

[dicecca112]

1. Never heard of the brand wouldn't trust it
2. Read the description, it states the speeds it burns various media, including normal

[tom10167]

hi i have a few questions about dvd burning.

first is, is this negood?


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-182-025&depa=1

2nd is do i need a dual layer disc or ne dvd-r will do?

3rd is do i need to compress the dvd or can i copy everything since it's dual layer.

4th is what's a good dvd-r brand to use?

tnx

1.) Don't get that burner.
2.) Any will do.
3.) You WILL need to compress the movie if the disc is NOT dual layer. Movies are 9.4GB and regular discs are only 4.7GB.
4.) That question REALLY varies on about ten billion different things, I own Memorex.
5.)The word is 'any.'
;)

[kindred]

You're getting some misleading and incomplete information on this post. Follow the link below, and read as much as you can stand. There's a lot more to DVD burning than most think they know. There are many other DVD burning guides available online. Try a google search. Enjoy!

DVD Q&A (http://www.cdr4less.com/cgi-bin/smart_cart2.cgi?page=smart_cart2.html&src=Favorites)

[Big Lar]

hi i have a few questions about dvd burning.

first is, is this negood?


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-182-025&depa=1

2nd is do i need a dual layer disc or ne dvd-r will do?

3rd is do i need to compress the dvd or can i copy everything since it's dual layer.

4th is what's a good dvd-r brand to use?

tnx

#1= That drive is about average, nothing real good about it.
#2 For the price of the new drives out, if you can afford Dual, get it.
#3 Do a search on Google for DVD Shrink, and read up on it,very good program, that will allow you to Split a Dvd to 2 discs,( if using 4.38 gig discs), as well as some basic authoring tools
#4 Depends on the Drive purchased, but in General Fuji Made in Japan Discs/ TDK/ Verbatim, and Taiyo Yuden are good.

[CrawlerZX]

so basiclly i don't need a DL because the media is expensive neway?

well then is this ne good

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-151-211&depa=1

or

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-106-934&depa=1

it's out of stock but i can prolly find it

[JimmyG]

I have the Lite-On White 8X DVD+/-RW Drive, Model SOHW-812S, OEM

Model# SOHW-812S White OEM
Item # N82E16827106934

I have had it a couple of weeks and am satisified so far. I have only burned a couple of DVDs, but they both worked fine.

As far as dual layer is concerned, you probably can wait until the price comes down. DVD Shrink does a fine job.

[Agent_Mull]

I have the NEC 2510A. I love it. It hasnt burned a coaster yet, and is very very quiet. Its also only like $62 on Newegg.

[Gongo56]

get dual layer.. it burns single and CDR... and in 6 months when DL dvd's actually drop in price.. you'll be ready to go

[DocGiggs]

I'm interested in this subject as well. I'm looking to get a good dvd-burner, but I have different concerns. I have always selected my past CD burners based on the copy right protections that they can get around. Which usually meant I used plextor, lite-on or LG because they made burners that could copy anything. The original release of dvd burners, even from the aforementioned companies, had problems reading some cd's with copy protection and burning them as exact copies again. This is regardless of the software used because the burner just couldn't read those sectors or fake rewriting them.

So, if you were looking for the ultimate burner in terms of making exact copies of your own disks what would you pick? I need stuff to get around all the major copy protection like safedisk and what not.

[JimmyG]

DocGiggs you probably shouldn't be talking about getting around copy protection on this forum. The forum monitors will not like it.

[mr_dimsum]

Dual layered movies can be compressed onto 4.7 gigabyte DVD-R's. There are various programs out there that will do the trick for you. Assuming you own the DVD, you can use programs like DVD Shrink to make legal backups for your personal use and safety. I would not recommend the burner, however, as for mediums, I would not buy any generic brands, as they often have bad compatibility, and may not be compatible with your burner. DVD's aren't like CD-R's, in a way that even generic brands will do the trick, as the data is chunked together much tigher on a DVD-Rs, so it's crucial to get from a trusting brand. If your serious, I would just go for the standards such as TDK, Sony, or if you want to go all out, go for something like Ritek, supposedly, they make the best media. And stay away from brands like Princo.. I've had grueling experiences with their discs.. Don't be clouded by the cheap price :D

[DocGiggs]

DocGiggs you probably shouldn't be talking about getting around copy protection on this forum. The forum monitors will not like it.

err.. last time I checked, it's still perfectly legal to make back up copies of your own personal software and such that you own. The only way to MAKE a backup is to get around that copy right protection. If you can't get around it, then you can't make a legal backup. Hence, why they sell burners and software legally still to get around protection for legal backups. If not, then what would be the point to any good burner or any good software like nero? Cause without those abilities they wouldn't be good for anything.

[jenko]

Anydvd by slysoft, program removes all protections and region.
And dvdshrink 3.2 with deep analysis is great for backing up movies on 4.7gb discs compressed or authered.

I recomend updating the firmware which is modded for multiregion and that lets you burn 4X discs at any speed you wont :cool:

[DocGiggs]

jenko, software doesn't matter if the hardware can't handle the reading. You can easily obtain and try out software, swapping hardware around all the time costs too much money. I like to measure twice and buy once :) or something like that. I want to get a dvd burner that can read anything out there... and no I'm NOT refering to dvd-r or dvd+r.. I'm refering to TAO, RAW, blah blah blah... which is the ability to read different sub channel data and such so I can make perfect copies of stuff I already own. This way I can lock them up and not worry about them. Right now, my DVD of unreal2k4 is starting to show some scratches and I would love to make a backup before it gets fubbed.

[Milkman]

I have the Lite-On White 8X DVD+/-RW Drive, Model SOHW-812S, OEM

Model# SOHW-812S White OEM
Item # N82E16827106934

I have had it a couple of weeks and am satisified so far. I have only burned a couple of DVDs, but they both worked fine.

As far as dual layer is concerned, you probably can wait until the price comes down. DVD Shrink does a fine job.


That's the same burner I got and have burned( backup) 4 movies so far using Dvd shrink and find it works great too.

-Milkman

[theMonster]

I burn DVDs all the time, dual layer discs are too expensive to make it worth it. You'll need a good program that can handle dual layer to do it and you'll need a decrypter. I use DVDXCOPY, but that doesn't know how to handle dual layer

[VWrpm]

DVDShrink makes excellent backups of DVDs and is a piece of cake to use. As for media I used to only use Ritek G04 -R discs, but now I have been using Prodisc -R with great success. Both are great, but Prodisc is cheaper (I paid $37 for 100). Afterdawn.com or Doom9.com can answer any questions on this topic.

[CrawlerZX]

ok so what exactly does dvdshrink shrink? is the video quality the same? what about audio? cause i'm thinking that it would be the same but u'll just miss some audio tracks and some extras. am i right? and what about that software from 321 studios what's ur opinion on it?

[Milkman]

I believe it just compresses the files, I really haven't noted a great decrease in quality and it sure is easy to use:)

-Milkman

[tom10167]

ok so what exactly does dvdshrink shrink? is the video quality the same? what about audio? cause i'm thinking that it would be the same but u'll just miss some audio tracks and some extras. am i right? and what about that software from 321 studios what's ur opinion on it?


I would imagine if you tried to back up a really long movie like The Stand, with titles, extra features, and sound in every language available, you'd probably compress the video down to 35% and it would probably be pretty noticeable. If you're smart(ditch the titles, extra features, languages, etc.) and burn JUST the movie, you can get a lot more video on the disc. My parents on our 35" TV had NO problems watching movies with compression at about 70%. That's what you usually get, at the least. Some movies fit the entire thing on, everything at 100%. So I would say you'd be ok unless you tried to burn a 4 hour movie and watched it on a 70" Samsung LCD HDTV. :D

[Big Lar]

ok so what exactly does dvdshrink shrink? is the video quality the same? what about audio? cause i'm thinking that it would be the same but u'll just miss some audio tracks and some extras. am i right? and what about that software from 321 studios what's ur opinion on it?

As to using shrink, and copying 1 of your own Long movies, Shrink has the ability to let you Re-author, and actually split the movie in 2, and make 2 disks, so you have No compression. There is a guide on thier forum as to how this is done, I have done it, and it works just great.

[VWrpm]

DVD Shrink compresses the movie to fit on a single layer DVD. I know people
that have purchased other software and it is not nearly as good as DVD Shrink
which is free. In most cases you have to remove the directors commentary or
the Spanish or French languages. I have only had a handful of movies that
could not compress enough to fit on the disc with special features and
menus. I usually just leave everything on auto and toss the foreign languages. As long as you keep the video quality above 50%ish (this will make more sense when you are using the program), the quality is amazingly good.

[CrawlerZX]

cool tnx for the info i decided on a NEC 2510a

[jenko]

Yeah i normaly re-author my films using dvdshrink as i dont like the extras and foriegn sound tracks and most films dont need compressing then.
If i have to use more then 20% compression i use the deep analysis option, dvdshrink 3.2 makes excellent copies with high compression as long as you do deep analysis.

[mr_dimsum]

I believe how DVD Shrink works is that it axes out a lot of the scan lines off of a DVD. Generally, the eye won't be able to notice a significant difference, but I'm not really sure, I've seen artifacts on fast scenes in movies before. In essense, it is not recompressing the DVD in any typical way, which is why it can copy a movie so fast. I'm pretty sure DVDXCOPY uses a similar type of procedure.

Though I've never tried the lateral, DVD Shrink is free, and it can read dual layered DVD's without problem. Though there is the common DVD that will not work.

What I normally do is either compress the Special Features of a DVD severely, or simply axe it out, and take out additional languages I do not need. Who really looks at Special Features anyway?

[jenko]

Though I've never tried the lateral, DVD Shrink is free, and it can read dual layered DVD's without problem. Though there is the common DVD that will not work.


Yeah i had a problem backing my death to smoochy up :o installed anydvd by slysoft and it sorted it using dvdshrink, not been able to not back any film up yet.
Im very happy with my old pioneer 107d with a modded firmware not sure why i would copy faster then 8x im sure quality must suffer faster?

[mr_dimsum]

With faster speeds, you'll have chances of worse compatibility with set top players, but chances of that in modern players are pretty rare, as they support most formats nowadays.

[squeekyMop]

might add if you going to get media with try ritek branks quite good and cheap.. :clap: :clap:

[VWrpm]

I have a friend that burns at 8x and his movies glitch sometimes.

[CrawlerZX]

would this be like dvdshrink?

http://nero.com/us/Nero_Recode_2.html

so should i just buy 4x media and save money?

[VWrpm]

I just got the latest trial version of nero (sp2 killed my old one) and have not had a chance to tinker with it. I'm not sure if it will back up a protected disc. DVDShrink is less complicated in my opinion and is very reliable. I burn at 4x and it usually encodes and burns in 35-45 minutes.

[jenko]

Nero wont back up original dvd films, dvdshrink 3.2 is free and is the best program i have used.
And for converting mpegs,avi`s and other movie file types use a program called DVDSanta it kicks nero`s ass for transcoding.
I use 4x discs and since i updated my firmware i have had no problems burning them at 6x or 8x.

[CrawlerZX]

oh ok man what's up with sp2 i guess it sux huh?

[VWrpm]

I installed sp2 this weekend and the only problem I have had so far was with nero. It has a known conflict with older versions of nero 6.