Kingston HyperX 256MB 3200 CL2 2-2-2 $44!!!

[AudiMan]

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3325952

I wonder what chips are on them.

[Mdogs444]

but what is a 168pin for? Isnt 184 standard DDR?

[AudiMan]

I didn't even see that. No idea what 168 pin is for.

Maybe it's a typo.

[Tacoman667]

I don't know either but I know it is not a typo. There are 168-pin versions of DDR and 184-pin versions.

[AudiMan]

I just checked, and 168 pin RAM is SDRAM, like PC-133 style, but they're listing PC3200 DDR400 RAM as 168 pin?? :confused:

I'm pretty sure that I'm wrong on this one, but I'm confused.

[ryuen]

well ya know. frys people are probably the dumbest in the world :)

[AudiMan]

I was just gonna order 4 sticks, but they won't ship them to Canada.

Apparently they are BH5 though.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=557852#post557852

[Mdogs444]

Kingston Hyper x for 44$........im willing to be tthey are SDRAM, not DDR....i mean, for 44$ you can even get a cheapo memory, much less HX....dont waste your cash...

[Turd Furguson]

I didn't know they had a HyperX series for PC1xx.

[Tacoman667]

My mistake, 168-pin is SDRAM and not DDR. 184-pin is DDR and 200-pin and 244-pin are laptop modules.

[AudiMan]

Kingston HyperX 256MB 3200 CL2 KI Speed 400 168 Pin

Double Data Rate PC 3200 Memory:
Outpost #: 3325952
This document describes Kingston's 32M x 64-bit (256MB) DDR400 SDRAM (Synchronous DRAM) CL2 memory module, based on eight 32M x 8-bit DDR TSOP components. This module has been tested to run at DDR 400MHz at low latency timing of 2-2-2-5 at 2.7V. This 184-pin DIMM uses gold contact fingers and requires +2.6V.


It specifically says DDR400 and 184-pin DIMM and PC-3200 and 2.6-2.7 volts with 2-2-2 timings. The only typo is the 168-pin statement.

How much voltage does regular SDRAM use?

If you read the link that I posted to XS, the guy confirmed it to be BH-5.

Quote from Tedinde @ XS:

I just ordered 10 more sticks. I pulled off the heatspeaders off both sticks an guess what i found.

Winbond BH5 336wf W942508BH-5

How the hell do they have BH5's???

[PCModifiers]

They say 168 pin in the beginning but at the end it says "This 184-pin DIMM uses gold contact fingers and requires +2.6V."


These are 184 pins :santa2:

[fastcuda]

so will 3 sticks of this run good in a nf7-s v2? or will 3 256 sticks not work?

[Nightingale]

3 sticks should work fine.

[HeXenViRii]

Thanks ! I ordered 4 !

[dreIU]

I want to know where the hell they got BH-5's from... couldn't people buy a bunch for this cheap and turn around and sell them for more than twice as much on ebay?

[fastcuda]

Thanks, I ordered 3, only need a case and psu now and my second rig is complete!

[CordialSpam]

3 sticks of this work well on A64?

[dreIU]

3 sticks of this work well on A64?

No... the current revisions of A64 have trouble running even at 200fsb forcing at least one of the sticks to do 166, so stick with two for now. AMD will release newer revision CPU's that won't have this 'bug'

[HeXenViRii]

I have a 3500+ 939 on a MSI K8N Neo2 and it runs pretty well at 250 1:1 ... :confused:

[dreIU]

I have a 3500+ 939 on a MSI K8N Neo2 and it runs pretty well at 250 1:1 ... :confused:

3 memory sticks?

[HeXenViRii]

3 memory sticks?

My bad , just realized the scope of the question . I was using 4 .

[dreIU]

My bad , just realized the scope of the question . I was using 4 .

It's ok. So you are getting 250 1:1, but on a 939 correct? What I was talking about is most definitely about 754 only.

[fastcuda]

I just talked to frys on the phone and ordered a 4th stick in case 3 doesn't run good I can put 2 of them in another rig and buy 2 512's for a gig in each. The bummer is frys thinks the pin in the description is correct, heres what he told me: "this is off the order form from the warehouse that is usually right, these are 168 pin ddr at 400 speed and cl2 is over the right", so I hope this is the right stuff and not some 168 pin stuff. He seemed to think the 168 and not the 184 was right. Good luck! We'll know monday.

[PCModifiers]

Here is the datasheet that matches the first paragraph on the outpost.com item


http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KHX3200A_256.pdf

[dj_2004]

so this is 184pin correct?

[HeXenViRii]

Yes , it has to ; and if thats not proof check the xtremesystems link . BH-5 sdram , I think not !

[DrSlinky]

He seemed to think the 168 and not the 184 was right.

That's what the data sheet says. But the picture shows a 184 board with the single notch, not the traditional 168 board with two notches.

The only possible idea that enters my head is that Kingston made a special DDR chip that could be used in the SDRAM slots on those transition boards that supported both 168 and 184 sticks.

Someone should definately get in touch with Kingston regarding these puppies.

[fastcuda]

Heres what the kingston site says

kingston site (http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator/partsinfo.asp?ktcpartno=KHX3200UL/256&promo=hx2shp)

[DrSlinky]

Yeah, but click their data sheet link. It shows the same specs, but it has illustrations of a 184-pin dimm.

I contacted Kingston. I'll post back when I get a reply.

[Diablo23RD]

I am in for 2, Whish me luck! :)

[Pineabs]

my friend bought these. some ppl say they are tccd some say bh-5, some say these suck. but they are DDR and they work with P4 systems. not SDR.

[DrSlinky]

From what very little I could find about them online, it looks like the early 1600 and 2100 chips could be had in a 168 pin, DDR dimm. Some macs used them as well.

[DooLocsta]

I want to order some of this but I don't want to get burned. I didn't even think they made DDR in SDRAM.

edit: I just got off the phone with Outpost and the person on the phone said that the pin count in the title description is incorrect he assured me that it would not be DDR or in the HyperX series if it were in fact 168 pin SDRAM.

[fastcuda]

I got my shipping invoice and this is what they sent me:

3 3325952 DDR 256MB 3200 CL2 K SPEED 400 168 PIN

so that doesnt really make sense, if its ddr and 400 speed, the 168 is wrong

[DrSlinky]

Just got a reply:

Thank you for your interest in Kingston Technology.

Please be advised that Kingston's HyperX is only intended for overclocking
and used primarily for gaming. We have tested the HyperX to work, but have
not tested them in any system or motherboard to guarantee 100%
compatibility.

If you can please provide me with the make and model of the system you are
looking to add this into, I will be more than happy to let you know whether
it is compatible or not.

So I told her i was running a P4C800-E, a D865GBF, and an A7V8X (all true). We'll see what comes back.

[DrSlinky]

According to the specifications, the KHX3200A/256 is compatible with the
all the motherboards you've listed. However, please keep in mind that we
do not guarantee 100% compatibility only because we have not tested them in
any system or motherboard. It is up to the customer to determine whether
it would be compatible or not.

[AudiMan]

Strange stuff. Too bad they don't have 512MB modules.

[bchur83]

I'm in for 2. Lets see if this is for real. If not, I have documentation and will return it at their cost!

[AudiMan]

Check the link to XS guys. They are BH-5's. People have been getting good results.

One guy hit 260 FSB 1:1 2-2-2 @ 3.48 volts and 235 FSB 1:1 2-2-2 @ 2.8 volts.

Pretty damn good if you ask me considering the price.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=558122#post558122

[PCModifiers]

Mine should be on my doorstep when I get home...can't wait!!!

[PCModifiers]

OH NO! i guess I won't see it today it said they attempted to delive but no one was home will try next business day :bang head

[Diablo23RD]

I wonder how many they have in stock? The item still available to ship!

500 pcs? 1000 pcs?

[killerkid]

wow, if i didnt just well...actually, hmm, you guys tell me how well this ram works, and i will deffinately buy it if people are hitting 230+zorz. lol pz.

killerkid

[CordialSpam]

I'm going to the store on Sunday and going to buy 4 sticks of them.

[bchur83]

I just got shipping conformation. I should have them(2 sticks) on Monday. I will keep you guys informed.

[Diablo23RD]

I'm going to the store on Sunday and going to buy 4 sticks of them.

I dont think store have them.

[CordialSpam]

I dont think store have them.
How so?

[Diablo23RD]

I am at Dallas, I went to 2 stores and they dont have them (I use the number on Outpost and look up the listing board). You might found some in your area! Good luck :)

[Excelsior]

Awesome deal. I ordered two. Thanks.

[HeXenViRii]

got my 4 , 340WF W94250BBH-5

[HeXenViRii]

Arrr ! Just my luck , they sent me 3x256mb and 1x512mb !!! This is great but I can only use 2x256mb in my computer while the rest are on the sideline . If you missed the deal and want to pick up these bh-5 sticks , i will have some up for grabs in the classifieds (i can ship to canada) .

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=3143968

[Mortis03]

Oh man... when I first saw the thread it was avaible to order, now it's call for availibility. Stink. :-/

[CordialSpam]

HeX I think Fry has the PC3200 HyperX 512 for $89.99 but I don't know what kind of chip they have tho.

It is this one
http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3645865?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

[HeXenViRii]

HeX I think Fry has the PC3200 HyperX 512 for $89.99 but I don't know what kind of chip they have tho.

It is this one
http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3645865?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Yes I saw that , it appears to be the same as the one I recieved which means they are BH-5 as well ( I checked mine ) . Now I have to sell the 3x256's i got to get another 512 :beer:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=3143968

[Skeen]

I thought the Kingston with the A in the model number designated CH5.

[fastcuda]

I got three of mine and they show 2-2-2-5 :bday:

[Pineabs]

the 3500A is CH-5 chips. thats why they are not rated at 2-2-2-6.

[CordialSpam]

the 3500A is CH-5 chips. thats why they are not rated at 2-2-2-6.

They're 3200A not 3500A and Hex you sure they're BH-5? What is the model number of the 512 stick you got? If it is BH-5 then those are probably BH-5 as well because I don't think Fry carries and other PC3200 HyperX's

[fastcuda]

Something I just noticed, the ram has a sticker on the clear plastic case it comes in that says 168 pin. So I had to know, so I pulled off a heat spreader and it is BH-5

[HeXenViRii]

They're 3200A not 3500A and Hex you sure they're BH-5? What is the model number of the 512 stick you got? If it is BH-5 then those are probably BH-5 as well because I don't think Fry carries and other PC3200 HyperX's

Yes they are BH-5

Labels :

-512
KHX3200/512
9905193-013.A01
P36004X1 - 2.6V
Forgot to write down whats on the chips , but im pretty sure it was week 40

-256
KHX3200/256
9905192-012.A01
1207986 - 2.5V
CHIPS : 316WE W942508BH-5

-256
KHX3200/256
9905192-012.A02
1325931 - 2.6V
CHIPS : 336WF W942508BH-5

-256
KHX3200/256
9905192-012.A01
1266690 - 2.6V
CHIPS : 326WF W942508BH-5

[dreIU]

And how do they perform?

[fastcuda]

I just ordered my one allowed 512 stick, hope it is bh-5 also

[gundamit]

Two orders and two addresses for the 512 sticks. Keeping my fingers crossed. Is there anyway to tell if they are BH-5 without pulling off the heatspreaders? Is there a special technique on getting them off (talking dirty to them?) so there are no tell tale sign that the spreaders have come off. I seem to recall somone putting sticks in the freezer to help the process. Maybe to make the glue brittle. Can't be to ake the metal contract right?

In any case good price for low latency (even if its CH) memory. :D

[HeXenViRii]

Two orders and two addresses for the 512 sticks. Keeping my fingers crossed. Is there anyway to tell if they are BH-5 without pulling off the heatspreaders? Is there a special technique on getting them off (talking dirty to them?) so there are no tell tale sign that the spreaders have come off. I seem to recall somone putting sticks in the freezer to help the process. Maybe to make the glue brittle. Can't be to ake the metal contract right?

In any case good price for low latency (even if its CH) memory. :D

The freezer method is more for thermal epoxy then for frag tape . There is no real way to tell from the outside , you have to take the heatspreaders off . Pull the 2 clips off then put a flathead screwdriver under the lip of the heatspreader and pull up against the pcb ( do not use the screwdriver the wedge & pry , you'll destroy the pcb ) . Just start from the corners and more toward the center , you will hear the tape peeling away , when you hear that move up . Take care not to severly bend the heatspreader by lifting one area too far , and you'll be golden .

[KKAT]

If you look down @ the specs for the 512stick, the timings are "400MHz settings: 2-3-2-6-1 (CAS Latency 2)"
which is indicative of CH-5. Nonetheless, 180 for a gig of ch5 is not a bad deal at all. my ch5 runs 11-2-2-2@2.75v
Hmm. just ordered 2 of the 256 stix. crossn' the fingers its bh, but if it is tccd can't complain, b/c it cost 80 a stix a the egg.

[DooLocsta]

Got my memory in yesterday 2 sticks of 256 the original deal. I went to put in in my K8V SE Deluxe and I got all kinds of errors so I went ahead and got ancy so I removed the heat spreaders and found:

KHX3200/256
9905192-012.A01
1207986 - 2.6V
CHIPS : 327WE W942508BH-5

Hopefully resetting my bios when I get home will fix the crazy problems I am having with them.

[Skeen]

I got mine today and they're chugging along at 462 MHz, 2-3-3-7. They may do more but I'm sort of at the mercy of my Corsair PC2700. It's about reached its full potential without a volt mod.

[KKAT]

does anyone have ideas of what ic will be on the backordered ones?
the only other chips i know that do those timings are tccd and the crucial 3200ballistix.

[bchur83]

Got my 2 sticks today. One is made in China and one it the USA. I hope they work alright together. I only have my Dual Xeon to test them in right now, so I can only hit 200mhz on them. I will make sure they work ok at their rated speeds/timings.

EDIT: Just started playing with them, one will do 200mhz 2-2-2-5 (China), the other wont do 200mhz 2-2-2-5 (USA)(Havent checked to see what timings are stable other than 2-3-3-6) @ ~2.6V. D***. Still not a bad price though. I currently am running them at 200mhz 2-3-3-6 with my 2x 512MB Kingston VR sticks @ ~2.6V.

[Excelsior]

I recieved the two sticks I ordered yesterday. BH-5, all looks great.

They're running in dual channel on my epox 8rda+ at 215 mhz with 6-4-4-2.0 timings. I'll be pushing them further hopefully, but as of now they're rock steady.

-Excelsior

[DooLocsta]

Got my 2 sticks today. One is made in China and one it the USA. I hope they work alright together. I only have my Dual Xeon to test them in right now, so I can only hit 200mhz on them. I will make sure they work ok at their rated speeds/timings.

EDIT: Just started playing with them, one will do 200mhz 2-2-2-5 (China), the other wont do 200mhz 2-2-2-5 (USA)(Havent checked to see what timings are stable other than 2-3-3-6) @ ~2.6V. D***. Still not a bad price though. I currently am running them at 200mhz 2-3-3-6 with my 2x 512MB Kingston VR sticks @ ~2.6V.

I just realized that one of mine was assembled in China also(the other USA) so I went ahead and pulled the heat spreader off of that one also it is the exact duplicate of the other so I don't think you have to worry about them working alright together. I just wish I could get them to work in my box period. :(

[Diablo23RD]

I got 2 sticks assy in USA. Take the hs off they are BH-5, one is 335WF these other is 336WF. They run dual in IC7-G @ 240 2.2.2.5 Vdim 3.2 ran quick 3Dmark03, boost at 245 2.2.2.5 unstable. I think i need to do the Vtt mod, I might get higher after the mod.

[fastcuda]

I just got the 512 stick I ordered, it is a 3200 no a, assembled in china, and it is in and running 2-2-2-5 default with 2 of the 256 sticks :-) was a great deal for bh-5 :bday: I will wait to see what it will do until I put it in my abit board next week.

[Diablo23RD]

I just got the 512 stick I ordered, it is a 3200 no a, assembled in china, and it is in and running 2-2-2-5 default with 2 of the 256 sticks :-) was a great deal for bh-5 :bday: I will wait to see what it will do until I put it in my abit board next week.

You got it from outpost.com?
please give me the link! :)

[fastcuda]

the link is on page 2 of this thread

[gundamit]

Now have both 512 sticks. One USA one China. Have been testing the USA. Its almost where I need it to be. Its topped my OCZ Plat. Rev.2 (288x9 2.5-4-3-10) score on 3Dmark2001 by almost 300 marks, evn though fsb and CPU speeds were lower. 29,295 (http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421554465/6.jpg) :)

[cetoole]

There is now a $10 mir for the 512 stick of HyperX, makes the deal even better.

[KKAT]

just to confirm, people who have ordered the 512sticks have received BH5??
Thanks!

[Diablo23RD]

I went to store and use the part number like outpost.com have and I got KHX3200A/512R. Is it BH-5?

Tested with A, it wont boost at 200 2 2 2 6 :( Head back to Fry's and return :cry:
If i order online it will be 3200 no "A"?

[cetoole]

There are no guarantees about what you will get over outpost.com, but the KHX3200A is CH-5.

[CordialSpam]

Anyone know how does the BH-5 HyperX PC3200 will perform at 2.9 dimm? Because my max voltage on my motherboard is 2.9 for dimm, I am thinking about getting them.

[ryanmartini]

i know what chips these things have in them corn! form the **** they are made out of. horrible memor. i baught 2 stticks of this memory and will never EVER buy kingston memory AGIAN. crashes like hell.

DO NOT BUY THIS IF YOU OWN ABIT Is7 series!!!!!!!!


agian this memory = **** :mad:

[ryanmartini]

I just realized that one of mine was assembled in China also(the other USA) so I went ahead and pulled the heat spreader off of that one also it is the exact duplicate of the other so I don't think you have to worry about them working alright together. I just wish I could get them to work in my box period. :(



IM NOT THE ONLY ONE :eek:

[Skeen]

Anyone know how does the BH-5 HyperX PC3200 will perform at 2.9 dimm? Because my max voltage on my motherboard is 2.9 for dimm, I am thinking about getting them.

I thought I saw you post this somewhere else. I'll have to agree with what the other fellas told you and say you'd probably get around 220-235 or so...

[__TRONIK__]

I got mins in, pulled off spreader.


khx3200/512
9905193-013.a01
1273435 - 2.6v
usa

328wf
w94 2508bh-5

BH5.

Havent tested, I am running 2x512 bh5 I got from the last deal a couple weeks ago. great results with that.
I had another stick shipped to my GF's, building a rig for my weekends there, gig for that rig and gig for mine here. that way I can get the best two clocking sticks in my main rig, and have backups in case anything goes wrong.

great deals for bh5 of late.

[gundamit]

Took a peek under the heat spreader on my China stick. (http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/4176e1e9z4fd824ed/27c3/__sr_/eaf7.jpg?ph_CYeBBOHAzmZlu) Unfortunately I did a poor job taking off the spreader (scratching the paint) so I don't know if the lifetime warranty is voided, and resale may be harder. Oh well. :cry: I'm more worried about the heat spreader going back on. I hope the two sided tape seals as well as it did prior to me taking a peek.

Would I be better off just leaving the heat spreaders off? :confused: