world of warcraft

[DrSpanky]

Just wondering is there anyone in here who's in the world of warcraft closed beta testing?

[Krowa 02]

I think I know 1 or 2 people have stated they are in it. But generally they arent allowed to say they are in it to anyone.

[El-Scotto]

actually WoW has no NDA and the only thing that was prohibited was making movies, which I also think has been lifted. Anyways Open Beta sign ups are in a few days :)

[Yakbak]

Closed beta is quite fun :)
Lvl 22 Undead Mage

[Wraith]

Closed beta is amazin. Everyone helps everyone else out.

Just started a new Character, level 13 Human Paladin. I love it! I'm buyin two copies of this game, one to open, and one to keep mint!

[twump]

lvl 21 dark elf druid

things are going to suck once it goes open beta. most people are freindly and helpful right now. once the influx of newbs comes in its going to be nothing but arguements between closed testers and open testers

[Wraith]

lvl 21 dark elf druid

things are going to suck once it goes open beta. most people are freindly and helpful right now. once the influx of newbs comes in its going to be nothing but arguements between closed testers and open testers


I agree. I enjoy the friendly atmosphere that we all have. But I can already see the truth in your words. The people that didnt get in seem to be very bitter

[Dracknem]

The Saga of Ryzom Open Beta was full of a bunch of friendly groups, I wish I was in closed beta, but now I look forward to open.

[Grov]

I know next to nothing about this game apart from the fact it's a MMORPG, or whatever ya call em.

Are the characters like Warcraft 3 then??

How many levels an you get to?

[Tatuya]

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/
They do have forums and FAQs for a reason.

[rugbyroy]

At the moment you can get to lvl 60. The character classes are all from warcraft 3, and it's horde vs. alliance.

[Oni]

things are going to suck once it goes open beta. most people are freindly and helpful right now. once the influx of newbs comes in its going to be nothing but arguements between closed testers and open testers

That's what happens w/ every Blizzard game. The online play is great for the first few weeks, but after every CS-playing 12-year-old manages to get a copy, it goes down hill really quick.

[Dracknem]

After it goes gold......we must find a server where the n00bs won't follow. I like MMO's, but people never roleplay enough for my taste so I've never really played for long. Is OC still possibly looking into making a clan?

[Atari]

I'm going to get this game over EQ2 since I just hate SOE and want to play something different. The only thing is what is up with the boring classes? I mean talk about your basic classes i.e warrior, healer, mage bleh.. I was looking to play the Hunter class but, one visit to the hunter forums and I decided I don't want to play a gimped class. So I'm looking at starting a Rogue or warrior. Still though I hope the items in the game make the playability of these classes more fun since it really only looks like an EQ1 clone.

[DocGiggs]

Am I the only person that thought WoW absolutely sucked??? Bleh.. got to level 40 with my NE fighter and 30 something with my NE preist and 20 something with my undead warlock. The whole time it felt like I was pulling teeth from boredom to stay awake and enjoy the game. The game was just horrible in my opinion. The only redeeming factor is the ton of quests you can do almost non-stop. Other then that.. the game felt like a single player game and rarely like a MMORPG. You don't actually have to interact with anyone unless you are sitting around the bank selling stuff and showing off your l33t l00t your guy is wearing. Big whuup.

There is almost no sense of community in the game cause it's rare to even need a group, even at higher levels. And talk about IMBALANCE. Unless you a priest or a mage forget PVP. In fact, priests make every other class useless. They tank almost as well as any fighter, deal as much damage as any mage, heal themselves... instant spells.. grr it's sick and stupid how imbalanced the game is. Of course it's been a month since I last played but I don't regret it. The only reason I played for as long as I did is because I like testing stuff, I like FREE games, and I was hoping something would be done to correct the game. Since a) it's about to go from free to pay to play soon, and b) it seems like nothing is really being done to fix the glaring problems in the game I gave up on it.

If you are a blizzard fan boy I'm sure you'll force yourself to find *something* you can like about the game. Others do. Sorry, I don't pick the games I like based off one or two things that a game has to offer if the rest of the game sucks big balls.

[rugbyroy]

Doc, I can see what you're saying and I think that you forgot that you were playing the game in beta phase. It's not finished yet, and therefore many things will be "gimped." I didn't play as long as you, as I was only in the stress test, but I was grouped up many times, and the community was pretty overwhelming from my point of view. As all mmog's seem to be these days, it probably won't end up being ready to be released at release, but Blizzard will still release it. Either way I think it's miles ahead of any other mmog I've seen, read about or played.

[Bensa]

Why I am looking forward to WoW:
Questing
Racial hatred
Naming Policy
RP Server (much more immersive)

[DocGiggs]

Why I am looking forward to WoW:
Questing
Racial hatred
Naming Policy
RP Server (much more immersive)

1) Questing is there (good if that is a reason you are looking forward to it)
2) Racial hatred... well only on the PVP server and in that case it's a tiny amount of horde pissed off against the alliance because 90% of everyone is alliance and slaughters repeatedly the horde. It's damn near impossible to play horde on the pvp servers
3) Sorry... still was seeing wayyy to many bad names. So much I didn't know there was a naming policy being enforced.
4) err... still haven't seen one yet. Just a bunch of talk over it.


I guess 1 out of 4 could work for you. If I'm looking at a lsit of things I expect from a game I expect damn near everything on my list to be there if the game promised all of those things.


As for beta... good god don't give me that crap. More then likely, I've been beta testing games before you were a smear down your mom's legs. This near completetion of the game means that it will NOT live up to it's own hype. Sorry, I've been doing this too long. That's an excuse. If it was a year ago and the game was in this state and they didn't have a definite deadline on release THEN I could see using the, it's in beta excuse. Sorry, they now have a definite release time frame and as such... the game will be crap in my book.

I will skip it for now.

[El-Scotto]

actually im trying to put together a small open beta guild on one of the faction vs faction servers, if anyone would like to join me that would be cool!

[Wraith]

actually im trying to put together a small open beta guild on one of the faction vs faction servers, if anyone would like to join me that would be cool!


perhaps. Will the closed beta accounts be wiped?

[El-Scotto]

i dont think blizzard has said anything about that yet, and the word on the "street" is that they wont wipe them, but they are just rumors :p

[rugbyroy]

Doc, thanks for the insults. Your assumptions were comical, based on your vast knowledge of me and my gaming/testing experience. If you'd take notice of the WoW website you'd notice that they're implementing, and have implemented numerous patches to the game since you left which are changing, fixing and bettering the game, getting it ready for retail.

[Banyan]

I will skip it for now.

well, do us a favor and skip this thread. you don't care for the game, that's cool, but why you find the need to repeatedly state your opnions is over my head. and i thought i had a lot of time on my hands :rolleyes:

[Atari]

I just hope i'm not getting caught by the hype either. I mean some ppl proclaim this game to be the second coming of jesus but, I cannot find out why. I really only have the cash to buy one game and I only hope that it really is "the end all" of mmo's like some ppl say. Nice to have this thread here though since if anyone could talk about the game strengths it would be much appreciated (only if you are currently beta testing). I think the NDA is lifted on this game right?

[rugbyroy]

This game is not the "end all mmog" as you say. It's just like many other mmog's out there. The difference is that this game does everything right where the other ones fail. It's not groundbreaking. There's nothing "new" to the mmog world. They simply succeed where so many other games have failed.

[Dracknem]

I'd be interested in an open beta guild...as I am not in closed beta I almost hope that they would erase closed beta characters, giving everyone an "even" start, although you closed beta testers would have a skill advantage.

I am mad tho, I've beta tested 5 or 6 MMO's, but WoW the one I'm actually interested in couldn't let me in. lol

[El-Scotto]

lol well i guess i will make a seperate post since there seems to be an interest in this guild. As for WoW there was never really any NDA, i know at one point the only thing you couldnt do was make movies from in game but i think even they are allowed now *shrug*. Open is coming here is your chance to find out if you like the game for free.

[DocGiggs]

well, do us a favor and skip this thread. you don't care for the game, that's cool, but why you find the need to repeatedly state your opnions is over my head. and i thought i had a lot of time on my hands :rolleyes:

Let's see.. because this is a DISCUSSION BOARD. Last time I checked, this was a place to give your opinion you doof. Also, the original poster ASKED for them. He if anyone here has played closed beta. I have and told him what I thought about it.

As far as patching goes. Yes, I'm aware things are being patched. They do that for almost all PC games now adays. Patching at this point is merely BANDAIDS. It won't fix some of the core game design flaws and problems without revamping some areas of the game completely. Yes, they did some areas of this game absolutely perfectly. Like the quest system, no other game so far has done this besides some early MUDS I used to play this well. However, they have really screwed up the combat system, class system, balance is non-existant, the crafting system is still fairly retched and almost every patch they put in seems to break more stuff then it fixes. That last statement is a fact and not an opinion. Sorry, this game isn't ready for retail but like all other games that came before it will be pushed out the door way too soon only to go the way of SWG and planetside and AO and AC2 and many others. Enjoying a nice strong subscription base for the first 6 to 8 months and then dropping off sharply into abysmal levels. At least when that happens to this game you'll be able to solo at the way until the end of the game.

[John G]

well, do us a favor and skip this thread. you don't care for the game, that's cool, but why you find the need to repeatedly state your opnions is over my head. and i thought i had a lot of time on my hands :rolleyes:

The name calling type stuff wasn't very cool, but but he had only posted twice and both times were with useful, non-repetitive information about the game coming from someone with lots of experience actually playing the game.

I found them to be some of the most informative posts on the thread.

John G

[twump]

lets simmer down a bit. this thread has been reported for name calling and flames.


its fine to state your opinion and discuss the game but getting worked up simply because you don't like a game that many many other people do is no reason to break forum rules. if you hate the game so much that you can't stand to have people like it pass this thread over and goto one you do like.

this is the first mmorpg i have played. i played planetside but thats completely different.


I personally like this game alot. there is different stuf to do between questing, raiding, buying selling and auctioning, running around and randomly killing things. stuff that planetside dropped the ball on (woopee lets cap this base for the 500000th time).

the classes seem fine to me. noone is insanely overpowered. and beleive me the horde do PLENTY of raiding missions so no they are not underpowered. I have been slaughtered by them multiple times. coincidentaly i actually had one help me once. was rather odd, i was fighting a spider and losing, a high level troll came over and killed it, i thought i was next but he ran off.

obviously it still has alot of bugs to work out but this game is great so far.

[Salomon Orangge]

I havent gotten a chance to play the game yet, and I've heard my goods and bads about it.

One question... What are the Quests like? Are they, "Go to blah blah, and kill blah blah. Return and get reward" type of thing? Or is the questing sytem more advanced. The reason I ask is because the quest system in SW:G is really... lacking... and I wanted to get an idea of what it's like on your end.

[DocGiggs]

Hrmm.... I don't remember calling anyone specific here a name

/scrolls back up and looks

nope, no names to anyone. Did I display a strong opinion about the game that made others say things to me...

/scrolls up and looks again

yep. Then again, I've played the game, didn't like it, someone wanted an experienced person's opinion and I gave it. I know this game has it's good merits. I also know it is much better then many other games, some of which I mentioned already like SWG, AO, Planetside, AC2 and blah blah blah. Does this mean I think this game is really worth it yet? Nope. I'm past the point where I am willing to pay for a broken product at release and for years to come based solely off a companies "promise" to fix it later. Sorry, that doesn't fly with me anymore.

But let me throw out a fun example of them fixing one thing to break something other with a recent patch. Take the push that introduced soulbound items. What did that break? Well it completely screwed over any enchanter and more item makers as far as crafting goes because they coulld no longer do upgrades and enchanters could really only use their skills on items they owned.

Lets look at crafting in general. Hrmmm.. why is it that a stack of 20 copper sells for almost 4 silver to a vendor but to make say 10 copper bracelets (takes 2 copper each) sells for 10 copper total? Hrmm... yah that's real business sense. As such the only worthy "crafting" skills are the gathering skills. Except at higher levels, but by then... it doesn't matter anymore as crafting items tend to suck compared to higher level found or quested items. Which is good and bad. It's a big balance problem. That's why they introduced soulbound in the first place was to help crafting out so that quest items couldn't be traded. But that backfired. Did they fix that yet? nooooo

Then lets look at the nice griefing.. get on the pvp server and go to a nice busy city. Let's see if you can catch a ride out of the city to anywhere :) That's because the opposite side just sits there and continually kills certain npcs over and over because... they can. And you can't stop them. I can go on but really, I don't feel like it.

My recommendation is to skip over the game. I would give it a 5.5 out of 10 myself. Barely above average. and just barely. That does say quite a bit though because I figure the majority of games I would consider well below average. Now if the majority are below average for MMORPGs doesn't that make it the average? No, I make a comparison to all games, not just MMORPGs in terms of graphics, sound, playability, fun, price, bugs, performance, and all that other good rot. There are many more games out there I consider better compared to WoW. I haven't tested EQ2 and frankly I'm not sure I will. Verant/SOE has left such a sour taste in my mouth.. and for reasons I no longer wish to discuss that 99.9% of the people would ever have to deal with. So it's a moot reason and my own personal reason. EQ2 may be great but I won't play it either.

[DocGiggs]

The quests are broken down into, kill X, find X item, clear out X area, and deliver X to someone. Now they have ELITE versions of such missions that, when usually received at the level they are given, require people to need a group to complete. Usually you end up doing a long series of mini missions to fight a boss spawn at the end. Many missions transverse several levels like the Tower of Anthraxx mission by Darkshore. They ARE better then SWG missions as in the span and tend to have a story to them. There are a few random missions you get by finding certain items and activating them. Most you get off NPCs with a question mark above their heads.

The sheer number of missions you can have though seems almost limitless. You can do any mission for your faction. This means if you are a night elf you can do all human, dwarf, and gnome missions as well. And you can do them at any time so long as you meet the MINIMUM level requirement. There is no max levels for missions. I have yet to see a slow spawning NPC either for raids or missions. Stuff typically respawns every 10 to 15 minutes with the most extreme I saw at about an hour. This game was built as an MMORPG but for the single playing casual gamer. It works for that I guess, but if I wanted a single player game they should allow me to play it single player and not pay for an online monthly cost.

That's the crux, the game is not designed for group or multiple player interaction beyond PVP raids and wearing guild tabards. The quest system is about the best thing for this game. Speaking positively here. If you are a casual player that doesn't always have time to spend hours looking for a group to take down X static spawn that spawns once every 6 hours or longer and you might have just missed, ala EQ style, then this game can be fun. While I find myself a casual player alot, I also enjoy playing with other people when I can. This game is almost toooo single player unless you already started playing the game with others. Since I knew no one else in beta when I started it, that was practically impossible for me. I can not justify paying a monthly subscription fee for a single player game to me.

[Salomon Orangge]

Thanks man. That's what I wanted to know.

[twump]

Let's see.. because this is a DISCUSSION BOARD. Last time I checked, this was a place to give your opinion you doof. Also, the original poster ASKED for them. He if anyone here has played closed beta. I have and told him what I thought about it.


doof, though not a very offensive word is still name calling and is still against the rules. should i go grab the link for you so you can read them over?







As for beta... good god don't give me that crap. More then likely, I've been beta testing games before you were a smear down your mom's legs.



this also is not proper conduct for ocforums. please do yourself a favor and go read the rules about how to conduct yourself while posting here.

[Salomon Orangge]

Ok... you guys are starting to nit-pick one another. The fact of the matter is, DocGiggs knows wut he is talking about, and wuz told to be quiet.

Get some composure here guys. We're not all 10 year olds having to make fun of each other.

[hatkeeper]

i heard this game is going to be really good, but u need to pay like 12 bucks a moth :(

but i am going to join the beta test for sure

how do u register for the closed beta?

[rugbyroy]

Closed beta is ending shortly. Open beta signups will be within 2 weeks I reckon, so just keep checking out the WoW homepage

[hatkeeper]

wats the homepage?

[AC Slater]

www.worldofwarcraft.com

[noxipoo]

anyone on beta server 2? alliance or horde? low lvl still? i got a lvl 14 priest, 12 warrior, and 20 rog on alliance side and 20 rog on horde side.

[Yakbak]

I have a 27 undead mage on Beta 2

[El-Scotto]

Well the game is stll in beta, they are testing it, that is why some things are messed up. To say this game is broken shows that Doc doesnt really know much of what he is talking about. The fact is WoW is one of the most polished MMO's out there. You complain about people hunting in PVP zones and getting killed when some one of another faction shows up? There is no way to stop them? Somehow I managed to take my level 10 troll to the middle of the alliance lands by myself, the only problems i had were with npc's. The other point he talks about is this game being very solo friedly, I fail to see how this is a bad thing.

[noxipoo]

Closed Beta is ending today. Open beta soon... I hope.