WaterCooling is Next...

[train22]

Okay, I've decided that even though my temps are excelent for my case I have to move on to water cooling because even without the delta it is very very loud, so can some1 recommend me the best kit that will be quiet. (Don't forget to mension price)

Just want too open my eyes and see what's out there on the shelfs, buying a kit is much easier and if it's good I rather do that than get my own parts.

[The Overclocker]

http://LeufkenTechnologies.com they do whole kits, and they are quite good but i dont have one because i am making my own!

[Thelemac]

You can get kits at www.DangerDen.com , too.

Great stuff, there. That's what I and many other members use and prefer. :)

[train22]

too rich for my geazer blood, going to have to build my own or possibly just replace the delta I'm using. Do you guys think it will be less loud? because I still have 5 other fans. [listed in my sig]

How much could i get away with $$$ wise if I were to "make my own" watercooling rig?

[Rob Cork]

Depends how much of it you made yourself. If you used an old heater core from a truck, as many people do, you can save a bunch on the radiator (which would cost about $50 from a retailer like DD or Leufken). You could also try and build your own waterblock if you have some tools to do so, but you will have to buy a pump which'll probably set you back around 20 bucks or so (these are only guestimates, I live in the UK so I don't know too much about US prices).

As for noise, as long as you duct cool air through your radiator so it's not having to use warm case air, you can get away with much 'worse' case cooling than with aircooled solutions. The main benefit of good case cooling is to supply the cpu hsf with cool air - with watercooling, you only really need one low cfm intake and exhaust for the case to keep a bit of air flowing through and keep your gpu and chipset cool. My watercooling is fairly quiet (120mm Low Noise Sunon 69cfm intake running at about 7V, two 80mm 30cfm exhausts +psu fan) and has a C/W of about 0.14 I think - it keeps my Tbird at 1600MHz and 1.8V at about 13C over ambient.

I love watercooling - I don't think I'll ever aircool again. Next time, peltier cooling! :)

[train22]

I've always seen this around, what is a peltier.... is it better? if so what is it???

And by the way like I said, temps were not a prob for me either, I keep my temps @44C-full load when it's abount 26C outside which is not too bad I guess. My only concern is that it's awakening me from the dream if a perfectly quiet system at 5 in the morning because I need to leave it on most of the time. I have 4 80mm fans and 1 quiet 92mm fan, do you think that if I take out my delta and just tunnel in some fresh air from the 92mm the noise will go down a lot, because it seems to me that the delta isn't the one screaming alone, wouldn't the other fans add up and leave me with almost as much noise?

I'd go fo watercooling but I just realized that I have great airflow in my case and it would all go to waste including the money I spent on the fans. And finding a radiator is imposible, what kind of machine will have the best radiator I can possibly find? a car, heating system? What?

[train22]

any1?

[dimmreaper]

My recomendation is to go with DangerDen (http://www.dangerden.com) or BeCooling (http://www.aquastealth.com) stuff.

Any copper waterblock from either of these two should do fine, any inline pump with at least 150GPH@1' should do fine, and either companies cube radiator with a Panaflow 120mm fan will do great. This way you can eliminate all your case fans, and have one Panaflow on the radiator, and one Panaflow elseware balanching out the airflow.

Personally, I'd go with the BeCooling stuff, but the DangerDen stuff is pretty good too. It's a hard call.

[VashTheStampede]

A peltier, AKA TEC, move heat from one side of the peltier to the other, known as the hot side. In layman's terms, like an electric heatsink. They usually need to be watercooled as well, and usually run you $30-$40 for a nice 125-175 watt peltier.

Here's my partially done water cooling setup:

Pump - Free, stole it from my parents old aquarium. Also stole a very old, grey, cylindrical Ehiem pump, not sure the GPH rating on either of them.

Radiator - Free, got the hook up down at Pep Boys for a Go/Dan Industries heater core.

Resevoir - Free, stole my parents old small aquarium. I would say it's about a 20-30 gallon aquarium.

Hoses and barbs and reducers - $13 all put together at Home Depot and Lowes

Waterblock - Danger Den MAZE2-2, $60 and still yet to be purchased

Silicone sealant - $3 at Lowes

Not bad, eh?

~RT~

[train22]

yeah but your at 44.3 idle?? What voltage are you using?... Many people get below that in full load with watercooling [and almost me]

ANd people...my main question in what sorts of machine will I find the best parts? For example I'm looing for answers somewhat like this if you guys know:

Radiator: Car
Pump: Washing Machine
Revisor: Whatever (I don't know what that is exactly)


And.. as I'm on the topic can some1 direct me to a termsheet on watercooling, and maybe how it works?

[VashTheStampede]

1) My watercooling setup is not in place yet. Still using this POS Thermaltake Super Mini Orb Ars Technica recommended, last time I listen to them. That should explain the 44.3 C idle.

2) I haven't updated my sig with new idle temp of 33 C. I used Vcool, which is a program which lowers your CPU's temp while idling, you can find it at www.download.com

http://www.overclockers.com/tips250/

Shows you how to find and use an old heater core as your radiator.

The revisor, spelled resevoir, is nothing more than a fancy term for anything that can hold enough water, and perferably your pump. You can use anything from tuperware to underground electrical junction boxes (4x4x4 - $6 at Home Depot, 6x6x6 - $13 at Home Depot) to aquariums, which is what I'm using.

I find using an aquarium easier since you can easily monitor the temperature of the water and add ice on the fly if you needed to. Whereas a resevoir, like an electrical junction box, inside your case, is a little hard to get at to do that sort of thing.

Not sure about stealing a washing machine's water pump. I see the pump on the list of things you will have to buy, like hoses and the waterblock, because if you rip out a used one, chances of it dieing on you sooner are greater.

~RT~

[rayhanm]

this looks like some good stuff
http://www.borderbuyer.com/fixittt/index.htm
and
http://www.dtekcustoms.com/

[hooziewhatsit]

so far I've spent about $140 usd on my watercooling setup. I got a dangerden maze2, a maxi-jet 1200 pump, and I built a bong cooling tower. Right now my temps are at 42C under full load.

hope this helps,

[train22]

like I said earlier, lol, that's some fast "cacheflow" and green is only the color of my backyard grass, or is it pinkish gray? But anyways, I'll stick with this load @$$ for a little longer till my grass grows green, I'll get rid of the delta and replace it wit an air tunnel... will tell ya how my temps whine.

Thanx