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lennytiger
09-05-01, 03:21 PM
I have been experimenting with AThlon cooling for a while now and have found a good one here.

I use a standard Orb cooler although planning on getting the Global Win CAK38 with delta yehhaww......

any way with a standard cooler and a software cooler and one case side open I got this temp 30 C at full load.


The software cooler is Vcool 1.6 and can be found at tweakfiles.com

download this and enable CPU throtling and set temps somewhere around 30 C - 40 C experiment see what you can do..


you will notice the CPU will begin to cool down, CPU throttling is great as it cools effectively for software cooling although a slight loss of performance maybe noticed.

try it see what you can do



Lenny:cool:

Mr Fuzzie
09-05-01, 03:30 PM
exactly wut settings are you using, wut do you have for throttle to 50% and throttle to 10%

lennytiger
09-05-01, 03:32 PM
my throttle back 50 is at 45 C

my throttle 10 C is 30 C


wot do u think any good what ur performance like?/

Pitspawn
09-05-01, 04:18 PM
Clock Throttling with a Thunderbird? Only the new PowerNow! Functions in the new Palaminos coming out have that support. How do you manage to clock throttle the TB?

Thelemac
09-05-01, 04:54 PM
What speed bird are you using?
What kind of ambient temps do you have?
What is your motherboard?
How are you getting your temps?

If you can answer these questions, it would give us a much better idea of just how effective your program is.

On a different note, I, personally, am completely against any kind of idle cooling because it will slow your system down, which kinda nulls your overclock. If you just want to make your system run cooler and aren't overclocking, then you could just buy a slower processor as it will cost less and run cooler...since you're really just slowing it down to the performance of the slower processor anyway.

I'm also against the wide fluctuations of temperatures between idle and load. More fluctuation == more stress on processor (more expanding and contracting).

Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. :)

lennytiger
09-05-01, 05:38 PM
Expanding and contracting computer components is bad which is why if you have a computer that is left on 24/7 then it is healthy. the chips stay in a constant temperature roughly depending on room temps.

my t bird is a 1.2@1.2
Gigabyte GA7ZX-1 mobo

the cooler is a modded super orb although the global win willl be arriving soon.


Software cooling brill isn't it does lose computer performance but with idle cooling it only sends the halt command to the computer when the CPU goes into a low working state eg 5% of its full load in one cycle then the software cooling kicks in and sends the halt command to the CPU when more instructions are sent to the cache then halt signal is removed and the CPU runs normally.

When I type this now the CPU is in "halt" cause this is only 2% of the CPUs full load so it does help in that respect.

Of course when you are playing a game or some kind of high CPU usage the software cooling switches off.

hope that answers some questions

:D

lennytiger
09-05-01, 05:41 PM
correct me if i'm wrong but PowerNow! allows the chip to do the throttling by itself.


(i could be talking ******** here so correct me if I am)

RED Hot Machine
09-05-01, 05:57 PM
I may be wrong, but don't the 1.4's have some clock throttling control?

lennytiger
09-05-01, 06:11 PM
I don't know weather 1.4 have hardware throttling support but deffinately have software cooling support.

Thelemac
09-05-01, 06:24 PM
The PowerNow! is for the mobile Palominos, but will probably be in the desktops, just not activated by AMD.

The problem with the idle cooling programs is that they don't really switch off when they're supposed to...or it at least eats up tons of resources. You'll usually want to just shut them off when you're going to do anything with your computer. This is all hear-say, by the way, as I haven't ever used them (as I don't actually ever idle)...

Like I said above, it's all my opinion on the use of software cooling. I'm completely against it because you can only cool your cpu by sacrificing performance. That's what it boils down to in my book. But then, that's what I'm after...more performance. If you're stuck with something and it's too hot, then it could be good for you.

lennytiger
09-06-01, 04:36 AM
I just ordered the new Global Win CAK38 the all copper HSF with delta fan.

anyone know if its any good?

my orb is definately rubbish it couldn't cool a PSion CPU. (do they have CPUs???)

although as soon as I get the global win i want to expect to watch my temps drop the reveiws on most websites seem good

although here in the UK it is priced at £42 damn expensive for a HSF!!!

but i'd rather pay that then spend 100+ on a new chip!!!!

fuzzba11
09-06-01, 01:06 PM
I have the CAK38...it's okay, but nothing spectacular. Go with the Glaciator if you want the same class, because it's quieter. I would really like to hear someone getting the NoiseControl Silverado, that thing performs a little better than the CAK but is virtually silent... www.noisecontrol.de is the site, I think. If price/noise isn't an issue go with the Swiftech MC462. If I could do it over I would get the Silverado, the CAK isn't really worth the Delta.