3.0-4.4 stock [Archive] - Overclockers Forums

scotty20857

11-02-04, 01:14 AM

I dont know how to put in a picture! But i have a huge overclock 3.0 at 4.4!!!!!!! on stock cooling WHOA! If someone tells me how to put a screenshot in my post i will post this pic of my HUGE oc. This is amazing stuff really...i think its in the attachment????? but i duno. can somebody tell me what the shift key is for anywayz...i dont speak english as my first language and i dont know how to ask but im confuzed...CyA L8R guyz. :sn:

Achilles17

11-02-04, 01:17 AM

take a screenshot of CPU-Z, then save the pic by going to paint, hitting paste, and saving it. Then go to www.imageshack.us, upload the image there, and then give us a link to your screenshot (it should tell you the link after you upload it)

nissmo300

11-02-04, 01:29 AM

3.0 at 4.4 on stock cooling

http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif

crotale

11-02-04, 03:05 AM

Download CPU-Z at
www.cpuid.com
launch the program and press "F5"
look in you CPUZ folder, there should be an image now.
Post it here.

Also, it would be interesting to know stepping information of the CPU.

aNTiChRisT

11-02-04, 08:18 AM

And it aint in your sig? :)

~t0m

crotale

11-02-04, 10:32 AM

And it aint in your sig? :)

~t0m

LOL!
I wasn't even supposed to post here, sorry all! :o
I'll go search for the correct thread.

jcw122

11-02-04, 10:37 AM

lol 3.0 at 4.4...on stock cooling...yeah right.

(HR)Titan

11-02-04, 11:04 AM

maybe he has luck
and pick some nice chip
;)

hawtrawkr

11-02-04, 11:20 AM

maybe he has luck
and pick some nice chip
;)

id like to throw that chip in a cascade and see what it could do.

Bios24

11-02-04, 11:30 AM

How long is it Prime stable?
What temps are you hitting for case and cpu idle/load?

@md0Cer

11-02-04, 11:30 AM

I apologize if I am wrong, but a 3.0 at 4.4 on stock cooling is not likely.

First, I assume it is a Prescott. If it is, you would have to be at stock voltage or have it undervolted to maintain 4.4GHz on stock cooling. I highly doubt you can get this CPU to that clockspeed on such a low voltage.

My calculatator is down at the moment, but when I have access to it I will show you precisely why this is quite hard on stock cooling, and I will show you how undervolted the CPU would have to be at 4.4GHz for the thermal output to be managed by a stock cooler. Now if you are somehow ramming sevral hundred CFM of air into that stock cooler via a duct, I might beleive it.

I would like to see that screenshot to see what Vcore you are at. :cool:

meionm

11-02-04, 11:33 AM

I want to see some test or benchmarks

*jj

11-02-04, 11:36 AM

yeah I would have to say more power to ya if it is true..but most people here are fairly experienced with what a chip can and can't do. And no 3.0 that I have ever known to exist can hit hit 4.4 let alone 4.0 on stock cooling, without votmods on the mobo among other things. And most people go for advanced cooling before they attempt voltmodding. So I speak for all when I say we are anxiously waiting for a screenshot for this one :rolleyes:

vsalt2

11-02-04, 11:39 AM

I'm wondering if he'll come back to this post ever, or was it just some intel hype :)

@md0Cer

11-02-04, 11:49 AM

If this is a Prescott I am pretty sure he would have to be using AT LEAST 1.5Vcore.

A Prescott at 1.5Vcore and 4.4GHz is roughly 170 thermal watts. If I am barely handling 130-135 thermal watts from my SLK-900 with 160 CFM of 2 fans ramming cool 65°F air into it, good luck to you with your 4.4GHz Intel.

jcw122

11-02-04, 11:56 AM

yeah its a prescott...check out some of his other threads...he says he has a 3.0 prescott...doesnt seem like he posts back alot

veryhumid

11-02-04, 12:26 PM

someone who has enough computer knowledge to run a 3.0 that fast and they can't take a screenie! ;) good luck man.

mtb856

11-02-04, 12:32 PM

If he's running at 4.4 gigs (guessing around 1.65V) he's putting out almost 150W..... there is no way the stock HSF would handle that much heat, the processor would shut down within minutes.

KHF

11-02-04, 12:41 PM

IS that stable? what's the stepping?
If this chip can run 4.4Ghz at stock cooling. i bet it will be burned in a week.
did you put you computer next to the air conditioner?

I think you should buy lottery when you know your cpu can go up to 4.4 at stock cooling

hawtrawkr

11-02-04, 01:02 PM

someone who has enough computer knowledge to run a 3.0 that fast and they can't take a screenie! ;) good luck man.

rofl

lilneel12

11-02-04, 01:07 PM

he's not coming back, he made some hype here and no he's gone

jouyang

11-02-04, 01:09 PM

3.0@4.4g? wow.

At most, I was able to bootup windows with cpuz screenshot 3.0E@4.125ghz(275fbs). This is with a tornado on top of a zalman 7000u with vcore at 1.56.

~joy

ewhenn

11-02-04, 01:13 PM

Step away from the http://www.killthebird.com/blog/images/may/crackpipe.jpg

Sjaak

11-02-04, 01:16 PM

WeldZilla

11-02-04, 01:22 PM

Jerks like this **** me off. If you can't back it up with cpu-z posted twice to show mem settings also sandra scores. Aquamark, pc markand all the 3Dmarks then do not post it!! Some thing like this, would make me happy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/everthing.jpg

MyPCAlexi

11-02-04, 01:32 PM

yeah i can jump tall buildings in a single bound! check it out i can stop speeding bullets as well. cant really show you though. :P

vsalt2

11-02-04, 01:36 PM

Everyone prepare, pinky's about to comment (insider trading lol).

Pinky

11-02-04, 01:46 PM

yeah i can jump tall buildings in a single bound! check it out i can stop speeding bullets as well. cant really show you though. :P

Close, think it's like...

"Stops speeding (rubber) bullets, leaps tall (matchbox) buildings in a single bound!"

I can play beethoven's 5th Symphony backwards with a 3 string fiddle, but I don't feel like it today... :p

jcw122

11-02-04, 01:53 PM

Lmao!

vsalt2

11-02-04, 01:53 PM

Ok how much money did guys all make off my secret info? :)

UnderTheSun

11-02-04, 01:56 PM

He is most likely full of crap. :rolleyes: A Prescott at 4.4ghz would require more than 120W to be dissipated. Obviously that can't be done with an Intel stock cooler, regardless of the airflow intensity. The chip would just accumulate heat and eventually shut down.
If that OC was true then it would have been the WR for air. Actually it would have been impressive even if he was using phase change.

@md0Cer

11-02-04, 07:27 PM

Ok, we would be putting out roughly 151.07 thermal watts at 4.4GHz and 1.4!!!!! vcore.

103 * (4400/3000) * (1.4 /1.4)² = 151.07 thermal watts @ 1.4Vcore and 4400MHz

I don't think the stock heatsink could handle any more than 120 thermal watts. Now lets see what Vcore it would take to be at 120 thermal watts at that clockspeed:

103 * (4400/3000) * (1.25/1.4)² = 120.43 thermal watts @ 1.25 vcore and 4400MHz.

Nice try...but unless you cranked up that vcore and put your computer OUTSIDE on a 30 degree F day with a box fan blowing into it, yea...I would beleive it. But I am more inclined not to when that is not mentioned, nothing but "stock cooling" is mentioned about the cooling and you did not show ANY screenshots at all. "geee....OK!! 4.4GHz! WOW! You are my hero!"

I might add as someone's sig says something along the lines of this: You are NOT your OVERCLOCK, you are NOT your 3DMARK SCORE......blahblahblah

Take that advice because if you got this awsome clockspeed at a low vcore on stock cooling (I assume that means it is all completely stock), that does not reflect on you being an overclocking geniouse, it reflects more on the fact that you are an Average Joe Overclocker like most everyone here that has one ****ing bad ass CPU.

So, no one is really wowed at YOU if you have an insane overclock without doing anything.

Now if you somehow built this massively ghetto 5 stage cascading phase change for your CPU, GPU, mosfets, ram, and PSU and got an awsome overclock out of an Average Joe CPU that everyone else has, then people would be wowed at YOU.

Zuzzz

11-02-04, 08:19 PM

I reread the origianl post. Its all hype. The guy asked what the 'Shift" key is for. Second he signs 'L8tr GuyZ' but doesnt know english very well. Sounds like smoke and mirrors. . . or someone who is just too bored and needed to post something to stir the pot a little.

Z

jcw122

11-02-04, 08:20 PM

i think thia guy just wanted to make a big hype and in the process **** everyone off

situman

11-03-04, 02:15 PM

Hey you never know. Like Cathar said, P4s don't really respond well to better cooling and has more to do with the production process. Maybe he is one lucky guy or Intel figured something out and threw it out there for someone to test it out. Who knows...

aNTiChRisT

11-03-04, 02:52 PM

One of two things have happened here;

1) He is a fraud. He posted this to annoy people, get lots of replies etc etc and guess what -- we all took it, hook line and sinker

2) He really did have an amazing CPU. Only thing is, now its melted, taking out his motherboard; shorting his PSU which subsiquently corrupted his HDD with all his proof.

For whichever reason it is, i really do have pity on him :)

~t0m

situman

11-03-04, 03:10 PM

lol

vsalt2

11-03-04, 07:27 PM

Has he even been online since this experiment? Looks like he fried his mobo!

@md0Cer

11-03-04, 10:31 PM

There is a way he could have done this on a stock cooler, but other mods done would be so extensive I would hardly call it stock cooling.

Like Cathar said, P4s don't really respond well to better cooling and has more to do with the production process.

True, but to get an overclock you need voltage, and as I proved above, if he had a stock cooler and a pretty normal setup he would have had to be running at 1.25Vcore at 4.4GHz to keep his temperatures under control. True the cooling may not yeild a better overclock from the GHz you get out of the same vcore, but it certainly is essential in terms of how high you can raise the vcore.

Ad Rock

11-03-04, 10:40 PM

someone who has enough computer knowledge to run a 3.0 that fast and they can't take a screenie! ;) good luck man.

Exactly what I was thinking. Proboly someone just posting it too laugh at all of us getting all worked up over such a silly claim.

@md0Cer

11-03-04, 10:48 PM

Exactly what I was thinking. Proboly someone just posting it too laugh at all of us getting all worked up over such a silly claim.

Either that or one of those people who think they are their computer, they are their overclock, and they are their benchmark scores which as I posted earlier is just ridiculous.

Now, he was not very clear on what he meant by stock cooling. If he was somehow able to modify his cooling setup, leaving the stock cooler in there and be able to handle the high thermal load, yes, this could be a very legitimate claim. Although the lack of a screenshot, component details, and cooling details, it makes me doubt this overclocking feat.

Aphex_Tom_9

11-03-04, 10:49 PM

I dont know how to put in a picture! But i have a huge penis !!!!!!! on stock cooling WHOA! If someone tells me how to put a screenshot in my post i will post this pic of my HUGE oc. This is amazing stuff really...i think its in the attachment????? but i duno. can somebody tell me what the shift key is for anywayz...i dont speak english as my first language and i dont know how to ask but im confuzed...CyA L8R guyz. :sn:

can you see what i changed ? ;)
it's almost as if he were saying that :p

@md0Cer

11-03-04, 11:00 PM

can you see what i changed ? ;)
it's almost as if he were saying that :p

Yes! You hit it right on! :attn: :thup:

I know I have said this sevral times already, but I really want to get this point out there:

YOU ARE NOT YOUR OVERCLOCK! YOU ARE NOT YOUR COMPUTER! YOU ARE NOT YOUR BENCHMARKS! HAVING A BETTER OVERCLOCK THAN ANYONE ELSE DOES NOT MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON! Unless you did something fabulouse to it, having a better overclock than everyone else makes your CPU officially awsome.

Take that advice because if you got this awsome clockspeed at a low vcore on stock cooling (I assume that means it is all completely stock), that does not reflect on you being an overclocking geniouse, it reflects more on the fact that you are an Average Joe Overclocker like most everyone here that has one ****ing bad ass CPU.

So, no one is really wowed at YOU if you have an insane overclock without doing anything.

Now if you somehow built this massively ghetto 5 stage cascading phase change for your CPU, GPU, mosfets, ram, and PSU and got an awsome overclock out of an Average Joe CPU that everyone else has, then people would be wowed at YOU.

scotty20857

11-04-04, 11:13 AM

Well after some time I have figured out how to tell if a system is stable and suffice it to say that system was not stable whatsoever! It crashed about 2 minutes after I looked at CPUz and I will not be trying that again...sorry about everyone getting worked up over this I didnt know it was a problem. I will try not to be such a n00b next time. :(

ewhenn

11-04-04, 12:16 PM

Aphex_Tom_9

11-04-04, 02:28 PM

hmm, but a chip that even boots at that speed with that vcore must be pretty strong...sorry if we thought this was a loada crap, let's see what it can do with an upped vcore...

lyle

11-04-04, 03:18 PM

2 minutes is enough time to get a screenie....

@md0Cer

11-04-04, 03:35 PM

:o :o :o :o :o

Sorry about that. I honestly did think this was a load of crap at first, but my big bold letters were not directed at just you, but everyone as there are people who are a little into their overclocking and sometimes do a little exagerating.

Now, he was not very clear on what he meant by stock cooling. If he was somehow able to modify his cooling setup, leaving the stock cooler in there and be able to handle the high thermal load, yes, this could be a very legitimate claim. Although the lack of a screenshot, component details, and cooling details, it makes me doubt this overclocking feat.

That is why I wrongfully thought this was a false claim.

Just as a message to anyone, in the future it is best to explain your system specifications.

Now just as some information, it is VERY possible that you obtained this clockspeed on an increased voltage, and could be stable at it, although your CPU would overheat and your computer would shut down, which could very likely have been the case here.

What voltage were you running it at?

scotty20857

11-04-04, 09:47 PM

well i did get a screenshot but the problem was that i dont know how to get it onto the post. Oh well im giving it a break before i try anything else with that chip since its my friends computer. Maybe i can keep it up there with some upped vcore and maybe even watercooling! :attn:

scotty20857

11-04-04, 09:49 PM

To the best of my memory the voltage was 1.75 but I can't really check...Does this mean I might be able to get this clock stable? If so should I go for good aircooling or make the jump to watercooling?

Aphex_Tom_9

11-04-04, 10:43 PM

sounds like you have a pretty nice chip there, if you can afford the parts and time, id try water cooling

@md0Cer

11-05-04, 05:39 PM

Your Vcore was 1.75? On a Prescott? I would back that down dude. At that voltage and speed on stock cooling your CPU will get way too hot. It will also fry your motherboards mosfets and possibly your PSU as well. I would not recomend going over 1.5Vcore on a Prescott. Good Luck!

Kenshiro

11-05-04, 05:52 PM

caater

11-05-04, 06:46 PM

actually e0 prescotts - so far - are all capable of 4.5ghz suicide-runs, including celeron SS i've seen. and they seem benchable at ~4.2-4.3. one guy got his e0
to 4.7, superpi (at least 1M :)) stable, onair.
and of course fugger got his e0 to 6.3.. with 3-stage cascade though ;)

but there's a bit too few examples to be 100% sure.
and afaik there is no e0's available in retail channels. yet.

for those concerned in high wattage - e0's (at least s775 and mobiles) are rated
with 30W lesser TDP than older steppings.. must be good sign.

+ thread started is full of ****. until he proves he isn't. :D

meionm

11-05-04, 06:53 PM

Maybe he meant 3.0 @ to 3.4 at stock voltage

MODdaBOX

11-07-04, 10:12 AM

I can play beethoven's 5th Symphony backwards with a 3 string fiddle, but I don't feel like it today... :p
rofl thats hilarious

Airbornederekc

11-07-04, 10:15 AM

ok maby he did have it at 4.4 for just enough time to post this thread now his cpu is a smoldering pile of silicon and hes too stoned off the fumes to come back?

TzacK

11-07-04, 05:37 PM

attach a SS of CPU-Z .

lilneel12

11-08-04, 02:33 PM

does he even have any other specs on the system??? NO, can you atleast tell us what you are running besides the chip??

scotty20857

11-08-04, 02:38 PM

sorry that i cant post a screenshot as it was at my friends house that i did it...and i will not be doing it again because it was way too much voltage and undoubtedly very hot :mad: anyways i think we can put this topic to rest since its not at all the accomplishment i thought it was at the time. PS the fumes are pretty crazy man! :beer: