What temp for std. Athlon 1.2 ?

[Heyou]

I just upgraded a friends PC to a Abit KT7A and an Athlon 1.2Ghz Socket A 200FSB. I'm an Intel clone myself, so I have no idea what the temps should be.

He said that he didn't want it overclocked so it's all set to the standard speeds, personally I think he's mad, still it's his chip but I think he's losing out on a lot of fun.

Using MBM5 I noticed that the CPU temp at idle is 56C, I reduced the temp to 45C with another case fan and AS2. He decided that a standard HS&F would be OK so he got the Coolermaster DP5-6H51, tight *******. Ambient room temp 18C.

Is this normal for this chip? I know that the Athlons run a bit hot but this too high to me.

Any advide would be great.

Del.

[jeff_harrison_344]

wel 46C for IDLE temps seem a bit high, but what are your load temps?

[Bubba]

56 is way to high for a chip that's not OC'ed.It should be around 15c above ambient.35-40 is pretty good but definately under 50 should be a must.AMD says that it can go to I think 70(correct me if I'm wrong it may be 90)but it for sure wont be even close to stable at that or anything higher than about 55.

[FRANK]

Welcome to the forums.

We have to get you next, but first your buddy's problem.

The AMD CPU's are notorious for running much hotter than their Intel counterparts. Although AMD says that the ATHLON CPU's are fine to 90C I don't think you'll find anybody that's had any success much over 60C. My experience has shown that you will run into stability problems long before 90C.

That being said, from what I've seen of the Abit motherboard, their temperatures as reported appear accurate, not like the ASUS Probe's 10C discrepancy. However once you get above the 1G processors this heat can be a very big issue, therefore you should make sure that you have a quality aftermarket hsf, I've had good results with the Global Win family (currently using WBK38's), there are others that will perform as good or better. In addition, make sure that you use a good thermal paste such as Artic Silver, do not rely on the thermal pad shipped with most hsf's.

Spend a bit of time lurking in the cooling section and see what others are having success with. I think that you should have your temps in the very low 50C's or below.

I hope this helps,

Good Luck!

[Mr.Lansing]

I would get a better HSF or setup a watacoolin system if your gonna o/c that birdy!

[Heyou]

Thanks all that's a great help. I feel easier now knowing what temps these things run at.

"You'll never take me alive, copper", well you might Frank, looking at the price difference, gulp ;-). I removed the thermal pad and used AS2 but with that carpet tile removed the HS doesn't get near to the slug so I removed those rubber feet too making sure the HS had full pressure on the slug. I was interested in the ASUS Probe's discrepancy, I always wondered if that was the case, in what direction is the error?

The load temps are around 56C Jeff, but I was loading it more than he'll ever manage to. He was adamant that he get an AMD recommend HS&F, I tried to recommend a Thermalright SK6 the same as I use but he nearly fainted at the price of it !!

15C above ambient temp is a very useful rule of thumb Bubba, I know what to aim for now.

LOL, o/c beginner !! water cooling, I told you about how tight he is, I said that his graphics card needs upgrading if he's to see the full benefit but after the new mobo, cpu, and ram he's now living with a 3Dmark2k score of 445 hahaha, i ask you, what is the point!!!

FWIW, I use a ASUS CUSL2 skt 370, P3 1gig to 1.2, SK6 and 5 extra case fans all because of 2 weeks of unusually hot weather. The weather is back to normal now in the UK 20C :-( so I'm in the process of fitting a load of toggle switches to control those fans and to hopefully get rid of the ringing in my ears.

Thanks all from the UK

Del.

[FRANK]

One thing that I would stress is not to remove the rubber pads on the top of a DURON / ATHLON. These pads are there to insure even pressure on the core. If you didn't know, the DURON / T-BIRD cores have a propensity to crack, given this situation, every effort must be given to help insure the well being of those CPU's.

The ASUS Probe is known to report the temperatures as much as 10C higher than actual. I have a couple of these boards and it's not unusual for the "reported" temps to approach 60C under intensive CPU usage during the hot summer days.

[vfarrand]

Ok,
From the info I recieved from AMD.
The Maximum Die Temp of the T-bird is 158 f.
I have watercooling on my 1.2@1.49 and my temps at the hottest reached 130 f.
that's with an ambient room temp of 95-100 f.
50 c is fine on a t-bird.
I was used to the temps of the Duron chips, 30 c meant bad things.
When I checked the temp on my t-bird I was freaked, but after what AMD said, no worries.

[Heyou]

Oops, I'd better put those little feet back on then. Allthough thinking about it, the pressure needed to close the clip onto the chip when the carpet tile was on the HS was far greater than with it removed. It is quite thick after all and the gap has been reduced by at least 1mm reducing the pressure needed to close the clip onto the board.

But I shall heed your advice Frank, and replace the rubber feet, just in case.

Well the more I hear about the temps of these devices vfarrand, the more reasured I feel that this one will survive the course as it will not be o/c'd.

thanks

Del.