Would a Antec TrueBlue 430W run a A64 and X800XT PCI-E?

[TopAce]

I'm currently going to be building the gaming computer in my signature around Christmas. :santa: I'm worried a Antec TrueBlue 430W won't be able to power the AMD 3500+ Winchester and Gigabyte X800 XT PCi-Express video card. Should i worry, or will the Trueblue 430W do the job?

Thanks,
Ace

P.S. I don't plan to do any overclocking with this system until much later...

[enduro]

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=340629
Read on :D

[TopAce]

Thanks, I decided to drop the TrueBlue 430W and get This (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-968&depa=0) Fortron 530W Power Supply, since the thread you gave me said to look for that.

Thanks for the help,
Ace

[enduro]

If you're going A64, and you have a nice vid card (you do) get the OCZ Powerstream 520W. It has 33A on the 12V rail which is supposed to help with the A64 overclock quite a bit. And like Sen said in the thread, it's BTX compatible, so it will survive several upgrades.

[TopAce]

Whats BTX? Is this a new form factor? Will it affect motherboard, CPU, everything? Or just case/PS?

Ace

[TopAce]

Wow...I also just looked at the OCZ 520W. $159 over the Fortron $80. I think i'll stick with the Fortron because i don't plan on overclocking so much that it will affect my pwer supply. I also don't plan on overclocking at all if I can.

[enduro]

BTX is something entirely new. It flips everything on the board and the case, so the door is on the right now. It has a different power connector as well. Let me see if I can find a cheaper place. When it comes out, you'll end up buying a new psu anyway. Might as well buy the nice one now, instead of buying the Fortron and not being able to overclock or upgrade to BTX.

[TopAce]

So should i wait for BTX, or is building a system at Christmas is ok? Will it only affect the case and power supply?

Thanks,
Ace

[enduro]

No, it's still in the makings, so upgrading now would be fine. That system looks nice too. You going to pick up the socket 939 DFI Lanparty when it comes out?

You might dig up some reviews on this thing. It has 29A on the 12V rails.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-934&depa=0
See if anyone with a A64 has this psu.

[Sentential]

The anwser is no. The 430 is not enough. I'd get atleast a Fortron 530

[deception``]

Wow...I also just looked at the OCZ 520W. $159 over the Fortron $80. I think i'll stick with the Fortron because i don't plan on overclocking so much that it will affect my pwer supply. I also don't plan on overclocking at all if I can.

I think it's absolutely ridiculous to spend so much money on premium parts just to skimp on the psu. The fact of the matter is that your power supply choice can make or break your entire system. I am sure that, given the number of high priced components in your sig, you can afford to make the extra investment in the OCZ 520W. The Fortron is no slouch itself, but an investment in an OCZ or PC&C will ensure that you do run into problems at a later time (which you most certainly will without one). It would be much smarter on your part to concentrate on a 3000+ or 3200+ Winchester and use those cost savings toward an OCZ. Remember that most of the 90nm cpu's possess the same overclock wall, so there is no point in buying the 3500+. You don't have to take my advise (or that of others) but trust me when I say your frugality will get into more trouble than good here.

deception``

[Daewood]

first of all he is not skimping on the psu caseu fortron is a very good brand and a very powerful psu but they are talking about the btx compatible for the future and future upgrades...

[deception``]

first of all he is not skimping on the psu caseu fortron is a very good brand and a very powerful psu but they are talking about the btx compatible for the future and future upgrades...

I never said that the Fortron is a bad power supply. Rather, I stated that he would be much better off with the OCZ or PC&C. And if he can spend over $400 on a video card yet won't spend over $100 on a psu then that is a "skimp" if you ask me. Just think of someone who has an FX-55 Vapochilled but runs an FX 5200 becaused he said he couldn't afford anything better. :-/
Maybe then you'll understand where I am coming from.

deception``

[TopAce]

I think i'll stick with the Fortron, and if i need more power, i'll look into the power supply's you listed. Also from the reviews of the Fortron i picked, it seems that everyone loves it...

Ace

[TopAce]

I never said that the Fortron is a bad power supply. Rather, I stated that he would be much better off with the OCZ or PC&C. And if he can spend over $400 on a video card yet won't spend over $100 on a psu then that is a "skimp" if you ask me. Just think of someone who has an FX-55 Vapochilled but runs an FX 5200 becaused he said he couldn't afford anything better. :-/
Maybe then you'll understand where I am coming from.

deception``

Tell me the differences from a Fortron 420W to the OZC.

Ace

[Oklahoma Wolf]

The advantages and disadvantages as I see them between a Fortron 530w and OCZ 520w are:

Fortron advantages: price, build quality, underrated. Disadvantages: designed more for backwards compatibility with 5v boards, no fancy sticker with a high 12v ampere number unless you get the Aopen or Sparkle version with the 28a@12v peak rating, hard to adjust rails (pots are in the case).

OCZ advantages: improved build quality over prior Topower made units, independant rails like the Antec Trues, long warranty, possibly quieter. Disadvantages: price, too new to get a good idea of long term reliability, no 12v advantage over the 470w.

I would personally put my dollars on the Fortron, but they're both good units. Either will power an A64 just fine, and I would call neither "skimping." IMO, the OCZ is overpriced at the moment for its build quality... the Fortron has been around long enough for the price to drop some.

Hope that's some help.

[TopAce]

Yes that does...

Thank you

Ace

[OBLIVIONLORD]

lol

[enduro]

lol

Deep thinking right there. :nods: nice contribution.

[OBLIVIONLORD]

your welcome LOLOL

P.S. I think you messed up on your nodd LOLOL :p

[enduro]

:nods again: double lol ;) rofl lol

All right, I'm done now LOL, Double LOL, ROFL. :D

[larva]

Understand this is coming for somebody who made his living off of selling parts, upgrade expertise, and complete PCs for a decade. Don't be a fool. By that I mean don't ever spend one penny more based on the expectation that you have increased the usable lifespan of the product. The promise of eternal usefulness is the first excuse for a really high price, but rarely even breaks even financially in practice and never actually saves money.

If you think you need the higher 12V output of the OCZ, then by all means get it. But don't spend twice the money than the Fortron simply because the OCZ is BTX compliant. Likely by the time BTX is necessary either supply will be clearly surpassed by the current models, and having gone with the Fortron now will give you an extra $79 towards their purchase.

I guess the general principle I am trying to underscore is that by the time BTX compliance is needed, a $80 Fortron will be both BTX and more powerful and refined than ever. So logically it just doesn't hold much water to spend an extra $79 now in an atttempt to prevent the expenditure of... another $80--at some future time, when $80 will purchase more than it can now.

[OBLIVIONLORD]

Exactly how much on the 12v would you need at the absolute least for an oced Winchester?

[huneycutt]

I congraculate you TopAce, mighty fine rig you're building and you are a wise person to be so concerned about the PSU you chose.

http://www.careyholzman.com/bios/cooling.html
Good link and please read the last paragraph. "Witness, for example, PC Power & Cooling’s Turbo-Cool 425W supply. Its regulation on all three lines is 1 percent. Cheaper power supplies generally range from 5 percent to 7 percent."

PC Power & Cooling the undisputed Rolls Royce of PSU's and if you're going to spend that kind of money on a rig why go with the best PSU? http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com/
http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com/prices/

Very fortunate to have experts here that put up the four stickies in this section and every word they wrote is absolute truth. How many times folks build a fine rig then skimp on the PSU and have problems and wonder why. I paticipate in other forums and often refer PSU ignorant folks to those four precious stickies. Somehow folks fail to grasp just how important a role the PSU plays in making your rig work right and stable, but it is what makes it all happen . . .

Enjoy your new rig and have a fine day. Huney.

[somekid617]

HEh, my 350 w psu can take an x800xt pe and an amd 3200+... not well... but itt can :D Shouldnt be too different..
I wouldnt risk using a 430 but i definantly wouldnt want u to risk using a 350...