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DuckDodgers
11-16-04, 11:53 PM
:confused: Ok ... so I know the answer is simple. But I have it not.
SATA... I know it is for hard-drives.... just don't know why or how.Or how to activate it.
IEEE... have absolutly no clue as to what this is.
Thanks in advance...
ps2cho
11-17-04, 12:08 AM
IEEE is a wireless protocol
cetoole
11-17-04, 12:11 AM
SATA is Serial ATA, a new connection for hdd and optical drives, which is replacing IDE/ATA drives. Thinner wires, faster speeds, and some new things will allow it to be faster than IDE. IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. "The IEEE promotes the engineering process of creating, developing, integrating, sharing, and applying knowledge about electro and information technologies and sciences for the benefit of humanity and the profession."
DuckDodgers
11-17-04, 12:30 AM
I have an NF7-S MB that has 2 SATa connections on it and I have 2 IDE connectors also. Can I run both SATA and IDE? ie; 2 IDE drives and 2 SATA Drives?
Flanagun
11-17-04, 12:39 AM
Do you mean IEEE1394? That would be firewire. It's generaly used for conecting external hard drives and digital video capture.

[edited spelling]
cetoole
11-17-04, 12:40 AM
yes, but it is actually 4 ide drives because each channel supports 2 drives.
DuckDodgers
11-17-04, 05:12 PM
SATA is Serial ATA, a new connection for hdd and optical drives, which is replacing IDE/ATA drives. Thinner wires, faster speeds, and some new things will allow it to be faster than IDE. IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. "The IEEE promotes the engineering process of creating, developing, integrating, sharing, and applying knowledge about electro and information technologies and sciences for the benefit of humanity and the profession."

Ok so I guess I should have been more clear. Still kinda new to all this. What is an IEEE1394 port? I just got an Abit NF7-S MB and on it, it has 2 headers for IEEE1394 ports. My board came with 2 additional USB ports for the back of the case and on the same plate are these funky looking ports (for lack of the correct terms). I assume (gasp) :eek: that they are for the IEEE1394 ports..... Never seen anything like them, don't know what they are for and am totally clueless to thier purpose. Enlighten me oh wise Padawan....
techun
11-17-04, 05:16 PM
I think that's firewire? external hard drives, camcorders, ipods connect to them
cetoole
11-17-04, 06:38 PM
Yes, firewire, sony calls it iLink, but it is 400mbps and there is a new 800mbps version. Techun is right about the use for firewire.
cack01
11-17-04, 06:50 PM
IEEE stands for: Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.

Its a group that mainly approves standards and such. Kinda like a congress of really really smart people.
DuckDodgers
11-17-04, 07:20 PM
IEEE stands for: Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.

Its a group that mainly approves standards and such. Kinda like a congress of really really smart people.

Hmmm Congress and really smart people in the same sentence? Would that count as an Oxy-Moron....? :) And if Progress means to move forward, Then what does Congress mean?

Sorry got off track there. Thanks for the info. So is the IEEE 1394 port named after those nice guys or does it stand for something else?

The DUck
DuckDodgers
11-17-04, 07:24 PM
yes, but it is actually 4 ide drives because each channel supports 2 drives.

Can I daisy chain SATA? If so does that mean I can run 8 drives off the 2 SATA ports and the 2 Ide ports?
zip22
11-17-04, 07:30 PM
Hmmm Congress and really smart people in the same sentence? Would that count as an Oxy-Moron....?

hahaha

the IDE connectors can connect 2 drives each, so 4 total. sata connectors can only support 1 drive, so if you have 2 sata plugs then you can use 2 sata drives

yes IEEE 1394 is the standard set by the institute, theres also other standards with different codes like 802.11 (wireless).
man_utd
11-17-04, 07:50 PM
Duck: no, you can't daisy chain sata, as was stated above. SATA was designed as a way to basically get rid of the hastle that is inherent with pata. It allows for higher speeds (which don't matter), but mostly, it got rid of what was most hated about PATA. Jumpers and the master/slave system. It was a royal pain, especially in cramped quarters, to mess around with it.

So thus, we have SATA without jumpers, and a much easier to follow system.
cetoole
11-17-04, 08:56 PM
Anyone remember SCSI daisy chaining? That was fun.
DuckDodgers
11-17-04, 09:56 PM
Well my questions never stop.... the more I dig the more I find. Abit sent me a little unit with my NF7-S, it is an ATAPI to SATA converter. It's got the name SERILLEL stamped on it. Plug converter into ATAPI device and plug SATA cable into SATA port on MB. And ta-dah, you have an SATA drive.
Do these things work? And would I tell any difference?

And just so I am clear on the whole IDE/SATA thing... I can run both SATA & IDE drives at the same time. I can daisy chain the IDE's ( have been for years) But I cannot daisy chain the SATA's. So in essence I can run 6 phsyical drives on 2 IDE ports and 2 SATA ports.


And with that all that being said.... I feel a Margarita coming on :beer:
cetoole
11-17-04, 10:39 PM
You got it, and the SERILLEL works, but don't expect any performance increases.