Poll: Whats the best 2-2-2-5 PC3200 RAM?

[Streifenkarl]

I'd be cool if there would be a poll for this. Kingston, Corsair, OCZ, Crucial, GEIL, Mushkin, PQI and so on all offer this new stuff which easily makes us forget the days of BH-5. I'd like too see how foum users here rate these sticks from their own opinions! I know, there will be more companies offering this kind of memory in the future, and DDR is at the end of its time, but nevertheless... i want a poll! Pleeeease... :beer:

The ones i know:

GEIL Ultra-X 3200
OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev. 2
PQI Turbo Series
Kingston KHX3200ULK
Corsair XMS 3200XL
Mushkin Level II V.2
Crucial BallistiX 3200
G.Skill TCCD 3200

So, if the mods here wont turn this into a real poll: Which one (if you have 2-2-2-5 3200 RAM) do you have and are you satisfied with its performance?

[elude112]

since i got the Pqi3200 2-2-2-5 and gotton great result so far...i go with PQI

[Sentential]

OCZ hands down

[El<(')>Maxi]

Depends on if you want it to run 2-2-2-5/6 past PC3200 speed. In that case the Mushkin wins hands down. None of TCCD stuff can do those timings to anywhere near the speed of BH-5....yet.

I just grabbed some of the Geil, I'll let you guys know how it does soon.

Here's someone else's Geil Ultra-X on A64, probably 2t

http://img53.exs.cx/img53/7816/334.png

[Streifenkarl]

Yeah, i have heard that the GEIL would be awesome wen it comes to overclocking abilities. I'll keep you informed about the BallistiX too. :cool:

[lithker]

i have geil and its cheap stuff that performs well much like pqi. the only thing i dont like about geil is they are voltage hogs i had to run it at 2.7v just for 200fsb at 2-2-3-11 and it is pc3200 2-3-3-6 but they warranty up to 3 volts and encorage overclocking. the other company i seen do this was OCZ.

[El<(')>Maxi]

The Ultra-X isn't cheap @ $275, but it's not the most expensive either. Some of the new OCZ TCCD is over $350 for a gig.

[mattspalace]

ohhhh pffft :p all this stuff uses TCCD, so YOCMV... Just like BH-5. And honestly, this stuff just hasn't been out long enough to determine which brand seems to clock the highest.

[El<(')>Maxi]

OCZ claims to speed bin or whatever for their faster/higher priced TCCD, and we know pretty confidently that the Brain Power pcb'd is better. OCZ is talking about some voltage loving TCCD now too that they will release. Wonder how much it will cost;)

[El<(')>Maxi]

This GSkill stuff looks good too, PC4400 2.5-3-3-7 (Also rated for 2-2-2-5 PC3200) from kakaroto @ XR


http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/Memory/Gskill%20PC4400/DDR610.JPG

http://www.truextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34931

[mattspalace]

OCZ claims to speed bin or whatever for their faster/higher priced TCCD, and we know pretty confidently that the Brain Power pcb'd is better. OCZ is talking about some voltage loving TCCD now too that they will release. Wonder how much it will cost;)

If OCZ's history stays the same..it will cost more than it's worth..

[Achilles17]

cant the new OCZ pc3200 platinum rev 2's clock REALLY high? I know someone with it who can hit around 300 fsb with one stick, and around 280 with two.

[mattspalace]

what timings? I'm sure mine would do that also if I would lower my multiplier. My CPU is just maxed out in frequency.

[Dave65]

since i got the Pqi3200 2-2-2-5 and gotton great result so far...i go with PQI

Just got the PQI 3200 dual channel kit and have gotten great results also 2-2-2-5 with no problems,beats my Corsair in sandra.

[Super Nade]

Could you guys post your VDimm? Anybody see remarkable performance @ <= 2.8V?

[Bugeyes]

I'm just about to trade in my Buffalo CH-5 for some of that G.SKILL Ram... 4400/3200, 2,2,2,5/2.5,3,3,7 It's well priced and has a liftime warranty!

[Dukemurmur]

OCZ, BallistiX or Mushkin ALL THE WAY

[Kav-Man]

My Vote MUSHKIN

http://www.dreamstation.cc/reviews/computer/mushkin_pc3200_ddr_222_l2_v2


Our test started at 200MHz (400MHz), timing was 2-2-2-5 and the memory voltage was 2.75. The chart below will let you know what the results were for the following tests, if we made any adjustments and, if so, what they were.

200MHz – 800MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
205MHz – 820MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
210MHz – 840MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
215MHz – 860MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
220MHz – 880MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
225MHz – 900MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
230MHz – 920MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
235MHz – 940MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
240MHz – 960MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
245MHz – 980MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
250MHz – 1000MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
255MHz – 1020MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
260MHz – 1040MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
265MHz – 1060MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
270MHz – 1080MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
275MHz – 1100MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed
280MHz – 1120MHz bus, timing 2-2-2-5, voltage 2.75 – Passed

Kav :clap:

[El<(')>Maxi]

Kav,

Lets see some test results & CPU-Z screen shots, not just numbers. Anyone can post that.

[man_utd]

... if they are serious, that set of sticks would be worth a nice amount of money.

[Kav-Man]

I got those off a review site.

Here is the link again.... Ive been seeing great reviews of the Mushkin Parts. I bought a pair the other day and am waiting for them to come in.

Here are more reviews I saw.

the top one is the 280mhz at 2-2-2


http://www.dreamstation.cc/reviews/computer/mushkin_pc3200_ddr_222_l2_v2

http://www.xtremecomputing.co.uk/images/temp/Comp%20temps/Snap2.jpg

http://www.3dxtreme.net/index.php?id=mushkinl2v21

http://www.steamedturtle.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=67

http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/memory/other/mushkin/DDR1/ll3200/index.shtml

http://www.3dgameman.com/vr/mushkin/pc3200/video_review_03.html

http://motherboards.org/reviews/hardware/1459_1.html

http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/255/1

http://www.bytesector.com/data/bs-article.asp?ID=354

http://www.thetechlounge.com/review.php?directory=mushkin_pc3200_l2_v2

kav

[Bugalaman]

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-551&depa=1
2-2-2-5 @ 200 and 2.5-4-4-8 @ 275, beat that!!

[Rustafur]

Now I'm no master of overclocking by anymeans, and am still learning about memory... but I'm pretty sure the Mushkin previously posted - 280MHz @ 2-2-2 whoops the hell out of 275 @ 2.5-4-4... correct me if I'm wrong please.

[El<(')>Maxi]

You should read some of those reviews you posted Kav, they do not come close to the supposed results you claim.

From this one http://www.steamedturtle.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=67

"Disappointing overclocking results"

And this one http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/memory/other/mushkin/DDR1/ll3200/index.shtml

"Dropping to 3-4-4-8 timings the highest I could reach was 235"

And this http://www.3dgameman.com/vr/mushkin/pc3200/video_review_03.html

vid review(sucks), best was 220mhz 2-2-2-5 and 255 @ 3-4-4-8


And here http://motherboards.org/reviews/hardware/1459_1.html

"250HTT 2.5-3-3-6 1T"

Show me your bench's and I might try and believe you. And btw, on Intel platforms the memory speed will be higher than A64, esp in dual channel 939. And A64 needs to be all @ 1t, we don't care about 2t very much.

*EDIT

Ah just noticed, you need some quotes there man:D I thought the way you posted that at first it was your review.

Anyway, good luck with the Mushkin. I love my LII

[Bugalaman]

Now I'm no master of overclocking by anymeans, and am still learning about memory... but I'm pretty sure the Mushkin previously posted - 280MHz @ 2-2-2 whoops the hell out of 275 @ 2.5-4-4... correct me if I'm wrong please.
thats overclocked, the corsair is stock

[ap673]

So what the best high overclocking TCCD out there? gskill, muskin, pqi, or patriot(new cheap TCCD).

[cuda70383]

the bext memory, i think, is dependent on what cpu you have. for example my ballistix are better served being in an a64 or P4 than in my xp-m 2400 (i found this out after my ballistix purchase)

my timings should be 2-2-2-5, but my system will only run them @ 2.5 cas

i can run @ 2.5-2-2-5, however, my sisandra scores are higher @ 2.5-2-2-11 (which apparently is not unusual for the xp-m chips)

[Susquehannock]

Seeing some impressive speeds from the G.skill stix with the newer "F" Samsung TCCD.
Anything with those should respond well to >3V especially at cas 2.0. :thup:

[Nomanor]

Is Mushkin PC3500 LEVEL2 BH5 any good ?

[mattspalace]

You're joking right??

[ap673]

Yes with enough volts that bh-5 will fly....

[Nomanor]

no i'm not joking. i'm a noob.

How can I get more volt to my A8V Deluxe ? It only has v2.8 max

[mattspalace]

you need a DDR Booster from OCZ, it would give you the additional voltage you need.
Head over to OCZ's website, they have good info on that site.

[Bugalaman]

nothing with "ocz" on it will ever go near my computers

[Super Nade]

The DDR Booster from OCZ is not compatible with the A8V according to OCZ but it can be made to fit and work with a few simple mods.
Look here:-
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38564&highlight=A8V

Otherwise ,you are stuck with 2.8V like I am, unless you volt mod.

[s002wjh]

I know ocz can get 2.5-3-3-10@ddr608 1dimm

[ZachM]

nothing with "ocz" on it will ever go near my computers

And why's that? OCZ had a bad rep because of their customer service long ago from what I hear. New management has totally turned around the company though. No other RAM manufacturer is as involved in the overclocking community as OCZ is.

[Streifenkarl]

Got my Crucial BallistiX 3200 today, and they simply rock! They do everything i expected and the AnandTech 2-2-2 memory article promised! 2.5-2-2-5 timings @ 466MHz and of course 2-2-2-5 @ stock speeds. I did have to raise the memory voltage to 2.9v though in order to get a 100% stable result.

The 2x512MB cost me 252USD plus the VAT in germany and shipping which added up to 255 € (332USD). Comparable stuff from Kingston, Corsair or GEIL would have been around 270€ so i guess i got a good deal. Either way, this memory is awesome. :D

[K4mui]

I've got G-Skill TCCD, PC3200 2.0-2-2-5-1T or PC4400 2.5-3-3-7-1T.
Streifen, in your case I'd look for some A-data TCCD (PC4500, look at cheeep.de, they've got it for 109€)

Very satisfied with the modules, they keep their 2-2-2 up to 223MHz, which is the maximum of my board- 2.63V :)

[Streifenkarl]

Thanks for the advice, but im all set now. These two sticks will stay in this rig until i upgrade to another socket. Actually my whole system is almost "complete", just need a 6800GT and a good PSU. I checked Newegg prices and the good stuff costs more than 250USD (without tax) there too.

No, im really happy with my purchase! :attn:

[Auric]

I was considering getting a couple 512 MB DIMM's using Samsung K4H560838F-TCCD modules or the like and I don't know if any brands are significantly better when it comes to boards and assembly but PQI for $250 shipped looked relatively good compared to some of the "specialty" brands. But then Crucial can be had for the same. Then I saw PDP for $225 and their slightly slower LLK for $190. Finally, I stumbled upon Kingston for $222 after rebate from zipzoomfly (untill 12/6) so if I do pull the trigger there really isn't any question.

[Susquehannock]

I was considering getting a couple 512 MB DIMM's using Samsung K4H560838F-TCCD modules or the like and I don't know if any brands are significantly better when it comes to boards and assembly but PQI for $250 shipped looked relatively good compared to some of the "specialty" brands. But then Crucial can be had for the same. Then I saw PDP for $225 and their slightly slower LLK for $190. Finally, I stumbled upon Kingston for $222 after rebate from zipzoomfly (untill 12/6) so if I do pull the trigger there really isn't any question.

Just so you know, the Kingston modules are not made from the 'Brainpower'
PCB which are widely accepted as being superior OCers. Those $225 PDP might be
a better choice in that respect.

[s002wjh]

got OCZ pc3200 platinum 2-2-2-5 @480MHZ, 2-3-3-10@540MHZ
2.5-4-3-10@580 thats 2 dimm, 1dimm 2.5-3-3-10@608MHZ

[Streifenkarl]

Which memory does have Brainpower PCBs and which doesnt?

[Susquehannock]

Which memory does have Brainpower PCBs and which doesnt?

Somebody should do a sticky on which TCCD based modules use the
Brainpower PCB.

Here's my contribution:

There are 2 types of BrainPower PCBs :

1] B6U808
2] B6U815

Here's a review that highlights the differences between the PCB:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=53

So far it's not 100% conclusive which OC better however many agree the 808 are superior.

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Corsair XMS 3200 (mod# CMX512-3200XLPT) = Brainpower 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-521&depa=0

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G.skill (mod# G3200DSU2-1GBLE) = Brainpower 8??
http://store.yahoo.com/digi4me/gs1gbkit5x2d2.html
(waiting for e-mail from Gskill for confirmation)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patriot (mod# 9PDC1G3200+XBLK) = Brainpower 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...-220-033&depa=0

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PQI PC4000 (mod# PQI4000-1024DBL) = Brainpower 815
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...-141-138&depa=0

PQI PC3200 (mod# PQI3200-1024DPU) = Brainpower 808
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...-141-148&depa=0

PQI pc3200 (mod# PQI3200-512SBU) = Brainpower 808
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-117&depa=1

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OCZ pc3200 EL Platinum Revision 2 (mod# OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K) = Brainpower 808
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-890&depa=1

OCZ pc3700 EL Dual Channel Platinum (mod# OCZ4661024ELDCPE-K) = Brainpower 808
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-227-017&depa=1


======================~======================

Much of the above was derived from here* (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43659&page=1&pp=25)
If anyone finds a mistake or has a contribution please post up. The more
accurate the list the better. :)

[K4mui]

As far as I know G-Skill uses Brainpower 808 exclusively

[TzacK]

what 'bout the patriot extreme of pdpsys?

[ap673]

So which is better, PQI, Gskill, or Mushkin TCCD chips?

[SteveOCZ]

We've been using BP for a long time and it was only since all these small companies came out with thier TCCD sticks that anyone else started to use them (they copied us :p)

Oh well we have a new PCB on the way so they can all try to find that one too :D

BTW can we see some memtest shots of that mushkin at 2-2-2 280FSB? Even I can say that is an amazing overclock for TCCD with 2-2-2 timings but I have a feeling you can't post 2 hours+ of memtest or can you?

[K4mui]

Probably mine will do best :cool:

[Auric]

Just so you know, the Kingston modules are not made from the 'Brainpower'
PCB which are widely accepted as being superior OCers. Those $225 PDP might be
a better choice in that respect.

Thanks for the heads-up. I have since read the articles comparing the same IC's on BP versus JEDEC reference PCB's and it does seem PDP is the best value (so long as they are in business as long as Kingston to honor the lifetime warrantee). chiefvalue is flogging the PDP for a few rupees less than newegg.

[fldrice]

OCZ has the new VX series that supposedly gets 250fsb @ 3.3+vdimm with 2-2-2 timmings.

[Bugeyes]

Oh well we have a new PCB on the way so they can all try to find that one too :D

When can we expect this new stuff to hit the market? and how will we be able to tell the difference between it and the 3200 PL rev 2 ?

[bobmanfoo]

so you guys would choose the pdp over the mushkin if they were the same price?

[Bugalaman]

XMS over anything, thats just me

[grimm003]

So is this gonna be turned into a poll?

[SteveOCZ]

When can we expect this new stuff to hit the market? and how will we be able to tell the difference between it and the 3200 PL rev 2 ?

Check your PM I don't want to steal his thread

[G0DZILLA]

I am going to say that RAM has been the hardest of all my parts that I want to throw together for my new system, I just can't make up my mind. :bang head

[Streifenkarl]

I am going to say that RAM has been the hardest of all my parts that I want to throw together for my new system, I just can't make up my mind. :bang head

Lol oh yeah, same here! It took me ages to finally decide which one i want.

I had

2x512 Infineon CL2.5 (2.5-3-3-6) @ 2.65v
2x256 Kingston HyperX PC4000 CL3 (3-4-4-8) @ 2.7v
2x512 Corsair XMS PC3200 CL2 (2-3-2-5) @ 2.7v
2x512 GEIL Ultra PC3700 CL2.5 (2.5-3-3-6) @ 2.7v
2x256 Mushkin Level II BH-5 (2-2-2-5 @ 2.8)

2x512 Crucial BallistiX PC3200 (2-2-2-5 @ 2.65v)

And all that in the past 12 months. The Crucial i have now seems to be the perfect choice and i will keep them until i upgrade to a new socket. But as you can see, it took me several tries to find the right stuff... and i wasted some money in the process. Ah well, im all set now! :clap:

[ap673]

Hey OCZsteve do you think you can send a PM over here too about the new PCB for the pc3200 PL rev2