Possible BH-5 Killer for Less $ Than TCCD [Archive]

ZachM

11-20-04, 03:27 PM

I decided to do some lurking at XS today, and I'm glad I did. Looks like OCZ has a new line of memory coming out perfect for us OCers.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46152&page=1&pp=25

Basically they have a sweet spot of 3.3-3.4 volts, and will run 2-2-2-X timings at high speeds. OCZ claims this RAM will be cheaper than their TCCD line. Looks interesting. This RAM might be a huge success with the overclocking community, especially with Christmas around the corner. ;) Coincidence? :p

mattspalace

11-20-04, 03:39 PM

Interesting read. Wonder what chips they are really using?

ZachM

11-20-04, 03:42 PM

Wonder what chips they are really using?

I think that is what is on everybody's mind. Since the chips are rebranded we probably won't know until OCZ comes out with something better, and they feel like they can reveal their secret. Heh.

flapperhead

11-20-04, 03:48 PM

my opinion is that they are the newest samsung tccd .I was reading a reply by ryan yesterday (cant find the thread) about his testing the latest tccd chips with 3.3 volts. he said most do in fact respond to higher voltage. Ocz saw an opportunity and a market to develop a module that was designed to run 2.2.2.5 at insane speeds (250+ mhz) at 3.3+ volts.. smart move

Styyn

11-20-04, 03:48 PM

Possible AMD BH5 killer, is what the title should read ;) Only hitting 220-230 on P4's, so, same as always, BH5 (barely) retains its low latency crown.

ZachM

11-20-04, 04:24 PM

flapperhead

11-20-04, 05:24 PM

Bigtoe got 251 FSB on a DFI 875 P-T P4 system. There are screenies half way down page 2. 251 isn't bad with 2-2-2-5 timings. ;)

I found the RAM on their site.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_gold_vx

Warranted up to 3.5 volts! :drool:

ocz puts their money where there mouth is thats for sure.. with that kinda voltage u need GOOD cooling and you know some guys are gonna burn em.. but nevertheless ocz guarentees them.. thats big time confidence in my book.

man_utd

11-20-04, 05:49 PM

I am quite sure they are tccd, as I made a thread about this a while ago, and the ram reported it doing so was TCCD.

Sort of peeves me that OCZ is taking credit for this, and acting as if they invented it, when it was shown being done on Mushkin before they even knew about TCCD being capable of doing so.

Oh well, again, why I'm not in marketing.

Sentential

11-20-04, 05:51 PM

PWHWHAHAHAHAHA. <xmas present edited>

man_utd

11-20-04, 06:20 PM

Perhaps you should add a booster to your list as welll?

situman

11-20-04, 06:24 PM

I doubt they are TCCD. These chips will not do 2225 at low volts at PC3200 like tccds.

"It will be released as a PC-3200 part the proposed specs look like this , but they may change

PC-3200
2-2-2 @ 3.3 volts 2.5-x-x @ 2.6 volts"

Thats quite a bit of volts to pump in at pc3200 to achieve 222 timings dont u think?

Gautam

11-20-04, 06:27 PM

They're almost definitely Mosel. I'm happy that someone cares about where the true performance is, with high volts and low latencies. Much unlike the general trend for crappy latencies and low voltage.

man_utd

11-20-04, 06:36 PM

Hmm, oh well, perhaps I was wrong. Seems strange that Colin was hitting 250+ with 3.3v on tccd and that this ram is announced less than a month later.

G0DZILLA

11-20-04, 07:56 PM

wow those OCZ sound pretty radical, but what mobo can do those volts.

man_utd

11-20-04, 07:57 PM

Ones with a voltmod or an ocz booster. Also, ones that raise the 3.3v rail and have a hacked bios.

capmuffin

11-20-04, 08:38 PM

this sux....so much why? its another product i have to consider..Ill buy it if it performs better than $225 for 1gb of tccd w/ brainpower pcb

Super Nade

11-21-04, 01:38 PM

Ones with a voltmod or an ocz booster. Also, ones that raise the 3.3v rail and have a hacked bios.

Where can I find a hacked BIOS? I'd like to try it out on my A8V.

Nanosu

11-21-04, 02:16 PM

Can't running RAM at a high voltage damage (or lower the lifespan of) A64s because of the integrated memory controller? How high would be considered high enough to do that if that's true? And how does that effect the motherboard, or is the ram the only thing that's affected?

9mmCensor

11-21-04, 02:21 PM

Cool. hmmm. OCZ makes uber voltage ram accessory. OCZ makes uber voltage loovin' RAM.

coincidence?
or
happenstance?

crimedog

11-21-04, 02:23 PM

still won't replace my bh5... that stuff seems to do 250+ 2-2-2-5
with same volts (good) bh5 should do about 10mhz higher

bh5 substitute should be better title :p

ZachM

11-21-04, 03:24 PM

bh5 substitute should be better title :p

True. It kills Bh-5 in price though. A gig of BH-5 now days goes for $300. This OCZ should be $250 or lower from what I'm hearing.

SteveOCZ

11-21-04, 04:40 PM

mattspalace

11-21-04, 04:46 PM

phbttt... yeah, when did OCZ start producing memory chips??

Super Nade

11-21-04, 04:59 PM

^^ Good Q. I'm curious too?

SteveOCZ

11-21-04, 05:04 PM

phbttt... yeah, when did OCZ start producing memory chips??

Well we don't make them, but they are made for us to our specific spec. No other company is using these chips because they are basically ours.

ZachM

11-21-04, 05:04 PM

phbttt... yeah, when did OCZ start producing memory chips??

Let the guessing game commence!

I don't think they started producing chips, though I think they may have had a hand in designing them. They could have stumbled upon some miracle chip that no other manufacturer has found. More likely is that OCZ wasn't the only one to find them, but the only one to realize the potential of the chips with tons of voltage made possible by their DDR Boster.

flapperhead

11-22-04, 10:37 AM

Well we don't make them, but they are made for us to our specific spec. No other company is using these chips because they are basically ours.

interesting if not tccd, could be a variation of the micron ram. either way kudos ocz..

K4mui

11-22-04, 04:15 PM

They're almost definitely Mosel.
How do you come to say this? I've never seen Mosels doing that good.
And I don't think they are the latest TCCD, OCZ announced that way too early afair.

Micron or Hynix would be my guess, Hynix is working on 3.5ns-based RAM but they would never need that much volts... still a secret, these ICs ;)

Sentential

11-22-04, 04:20 PM

Well we don't make them, but they are made for us to our specific spec. No other company is using these chips because they are basically ours.
Who is the vender?

There are only a couple that I can think of that has that kind of volume. So its gotta be one of the following:

Hynix (most likely)
Infineon (possiblility)
Mosel (probly not)
Micron (no)
Samsung (no)
Winbond (hell no)

Piazza0028

11-22-04, 04:22 PM

Perhaps you should add a booster to your list as welll?

can some one explain what exactly a booster does, someone was telling me that even with a booster I'd need to do a VTT mod or something to my new NF7-S is this true? what is a VTT mod... thanks in advance /sry to highjack thread /bear with me, I'm a nooobbbb

ZachM

11-22-04, 04:59 PM

The OCZ DDR Booster is basically a plug-n-play RAM volt mod. It mounts in an extra RAM slot, and allows for a Vdimm of up to 3.9 volts on compatable motherboards. Unfortunately most NF7s have a problem where it doesn't give proper Vtt voltage when the Vdimm is raised past 3 vots. Therefore a Vtt mod is needed to keep that voltage on track.

Anyways, OCZ is not giving out their chip info. They have already been through this on XS.

Piazza0028

11-22-04, 05:13 PM

ok so no point in getting it with my NF7-s, thanks zachM, also my name is zach m, what a coincidence lol

aNTiChRisT

11-22-04, 06:05 PM

I think you should stop bashing OCZ, they are an excellent company and the closest we have to an "Overclocking" company.

Nice new chips :)

~t0m

Super Nade

11-22-04, 06:12 PM

I don't think anybody was bashing OCz. The questions (IMHO) asked were legitimate and thoughtful. It is good that nothing is accepted at face value but is subjected to scrutiny.

flapperhead

11-22-04, 06:53 PM

can some one explain what exactly a booster does, someone was telling me that even with a booster I'd need to do a VTT mod or something to my new NF7-S is this true? what is a VTT mod... thanks in advance /sry to highjack thread /bear with me, I'm a nooobbbb

the ocz booster allows those who only have 2.8 volts to increase the voltage up to around 3.8 volts(if my memory serves me correctly). since some chips - winbond bh6/bh5 and a few of the newer chips do respond to higher voltage.that way, it enables u to get ur maximum overclock and stability. vtt is a termination voltage which is 1/2 of the vdimm voltage. usually it automatically raises with a normal mb.it keeps the memory stable especially when ocing. however with the ocz vdimm booster the vtt voltage wont automatically raise. so the best way is to do a vtt modification so as u raise the vdimm u can raise the vtt voltage and keep it at1/2 of vdimm, for maximum stability and overclockability. now ideally thats the way to go, but u can still get a better overclock using the ocz booster without doing a vtt mod. it just wont give u as high a memory overclock as with it... hope this helps... flapper

saltytheseagull

11-22-04, 06:57 PM

Does the k8n neo2 plat. support the booster? If not what 939 boards do or can you get high voltage with?

Gautam

11-22-04, 07:09 PM

I think you should stop bashing OCZ, they are an excellent company and the closest we have to an "Overclocking" company.

Nice new chips :)

~t0m
As Steve himself said

You guys can play the guessing game but we wont tell :d

And play the guessing game we will.... :D

Hynix is all .13 micron, so no way in hell. Has anyone ever gotten anything from Hynix????? And since when does Hynix need volts to get anywhere?

Infineon, never seen it do much, so I have no idea. Usually it seems to like low volts and 3-3ish timings. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Samsung, well if its "better than TCCD" I think not. Also definitely does too well with low volts.

trueplaya4ever8

11-22-04, 08:42 PM

Does the k8n neo2 plat. support the booster? If not what 939 boards do or can you get high voltage with?

http://www.ocztechnology.com/displaypage.php?name=DDRBoostermobocompatibility

yes it supports it

man_utd

11-22-04, 08:59 PM

Well, who speaks korean and wants to call up korean firms asking around?

gvblake22

11-22-04, 09:58 PM

This seems like some awesome stuff but the fact that they claim it will be cheaper than TCCD will really be offset by the fact that you have to buy the freakin booster in order to run this stuff up to its potential (3.2V)...

ZachM

11-22-04, 10:13 PM

You could always volt mod. ;) What other RAM besides BH-5/6 will do 2-2-2-X at 250 MHz? Even the BH chips need around the same voltage. Think of it this way. If you don't want to volt mod, buying a gig of this stuff for $250 + $50 for the booster ends up being the same price as a gig of BH-5/6 alone.

enduro

11-22-04, 11:02 PM

Wow, hadn't heard about this stuff yet. Should be interesting to see what it turns out to be. That's pretty funny that OCZ makes the Booster and manufactures ram that can handle it under warranty :D Go OCZ.

9mmCensor

11-22-04, 11:15 PM

link to PR and Product info
http://xtremeresources.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2100&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

My questions:

Will there be a platnium editon? Or a black heatsink edition? (cause those look cooler).

Also will there be some speced at higher ratings, like a PC-3500 edition?

harlam357

11-22-04, 11:19 PM

That's pretty funny that OCZ makes the Booster and manufactures ram that can handle it under warranty :D Go OCZ.

it's called marketing... i should know, i do it for a living.

james__bean

11-23-04, 03:36 AM

Any word on when this stuff will be out. I'm looking to buy a gig of this stuff. I don't want to deal with ebay auctions to replace one of my bad overclocking BH5 sticks. The best part about this stuff is that its under warranty up to 3.5 volts!

ZachM

11-23-04, 08:45 AM

I've heard Excaliber PC will have them Monday. Keep an eye out.

If you don't know the link:
www.excaliberpc.com

K4mui

11-23-04, 11:08 AM

Hynix (most likely)
Infineon (possiblility)
Mosel (probly not)
Micron (no)
Samsung (no)
Winbond (hell no)

Infineon bought Winbond- and they don't get anything running ;)
Mosel did never run that good, at last I didn't see those ICs.
Micron would try to produce more DDR-II-based ICs- but it is an opportunity.
Samsung is nearly impossible, they have TCCD, and 4ns has been a big step- TCCD don't need that much volts to get running.

My guess is Hynix.

SteveOCZ

11-23-04, 11:13 AM

I don't think anybody was bashing OCz. The questions (IMHO) asked were legitimate and thoughtful. It is good that nothing is accepted at face value but is subjected to scrutiny.

Agreed :beer:

I don't mind answering any questions you guys have, but there are things I can't (because of the NDA I signed) tell you.

Steve

/btw seems Ryan things the MRSP will be $250USD for 2x512 :)

flapperhead

11-23-04, 11:15 AM

Agreed :beer:

I don't mind answering any questions you guys have, but there are things I can't (because of the NDA I signed) tell you.

Steve
Hey my friend ,how about teling us what chips u arent using in this new offering. that way it wont be a violation of ur nda (hehehe)

SteveOCZ

11-23-04, 11:20 AM

LOL ok

Its not bh-5/6, its not TCCD its not DDR2 or 3 of any kind or any of those wonderfull sdram chips we have in the back :p

flapperhead

11-23-04, 11:22 AM

LOL ok

Its not bh-5/6, its not TCCD its not DDR2 or 3 of any kind or any of those wonderfull sdram chips we have in the back :p

LOL, we sound like a bunch of kids nagging daddy...

ChuckS

11-23-04, 11:42 AM

Steve/Mike,

So will I be able to hit 300 fsb 1:1 with these??? My quest continues...

flapperhead

11-23-04, 12:01 PM

Steve/Mike,

So will I be able to hit 300 fsb 1:1 with these??? My quest continues...

if im not mistaken they are designed to runn 250 @2.2.2.5. @insane voltages, not super hi freqs.

K4mui

11-23-04, 12:06 PM

Its not bh-5/6, its not TCCD its not DDR2 or 3 of any kind or any of those wonderfull sdram chips we have in the back :p

You didn't say anything specific about CH-5?

on a sidemark: DDR-3 isn't designed yet is it? I thought only GDDR-3 is out already?

SteveOCZ

11-23-04, 02:18 PM

You didn't say anything specific about CH-5?

on a sidemark: DDR-3 isn't designed yet is it? I thought only GDDR-3 is out already?

DDR3 specs haven't been set yet. I think the last JEDEC meeting (last friday?) was going to be working on that as will the next meeting they have.

This stuff doesn't scale to high speeds close to 300 and it's not the intention. They are for super tight timings + high fsb + voltage :)

Vrykyl

11-23-04, 02:27 PM

Will my 1gb ocz pc4000 gold be fine for an a64 system? itl happily do 300fsb+ at 2.8v, but only at its stock timing (2.5,3,3,8?), i never tried to get tighter timings at 250 tho - whats the warranty on these things cover?

K4mui

11-23-04, 02:46 PM

DDR3 specs haven't been set yet. I think the last JEDEC meeting (last friday?) was going to be working on that as will the next meeting they have.

This stuff doesn't scale to high speeds close to 300 and it's not the intention. They are for super tight timings + high fsb + voltage :)

Thank you but...
Interesting that you again said nothing about CH-5 ;)

SteveOCZ

11-23-04, 02:52 PM

Ok its not CH-5 :)

Hmm maybe I'm limiting down your guessing to much....I'll be quite now :p

gvblake22

11-23-04, 02:53 PM

Thank you but...
Interesting that you again said nothing about CH-5 ;)
What about CH-5??
EDIT: nm

enduro

11-23-04, 02:57 PM

Ok its not CH-5

Hmm maybe I'm limiting down your guessing to much....I'll be quite now

Nooooooo. You have to keep talking. Quick, someone put something in his water to make him friendly. Tape his eyelids up and get a bright light, we can make him talk :D

gvblake22

11-23-04, 03:02 PM

Ok its not CH-5 :)

Hmm maybe I'm limiting down your guessing to much....I'll be quite now :p
OOHHHHH, he works for OCZ, hahaha, I'm an idiot... :o

But yeah, lets keep 'im talkin'! :sn:

K4mui

11-23-04, 04:05 PM

After I thought about it a few more minutes, I don't think we know the ICs.
They are brand new I guess, and will be produced for quite a time. I wonder if other manufacturers like Mushkin or Corsair (I nearly cannot write the names in this thread ;)) will come up with that kind of modules? I doubt it.

btw, sorry to all that I made Steve be quiet :eh?:

ChuckS

11-23-04, 06:41 PM

if im not mistaken they are designed to runn 250 @2.2.2.5. @insane voltages, not super hi freqs.

Hmmm, time to buy a 3.2E then. Wonder if I can get to 4 Ghz at 2.2.2.5 on water?

aNTiChRisT

11-23-04, 08:33 PM

Hmmm, time to buy a 3.2E then. Wonder if I can get to 4 Ghz at 2.2.2.5 on water?

From what i've read its 250 2.5.2.2 on AMD systems, 230 2.5.2.2 on Intel systems... damn shame!

Steve could you give some specs of average (not peak) performance on intel? Like;

3.4v @ 233mhz @ 2/5/2/2
3.2v @ 200mhz @ 2/5/2/2

Or whatever these wonderchips do? I might consider upgrading... these PC3700EB's shouldnt have lost too much money already... i hope :))

~t0m

capmuffin

11-23-04, 08:37 PM

Well i can get 1024 TCCD for 225 shipped...if it beats that ill buy it in a heartbeat

gvblake22

11-23-04, 08:44 PM

Well i can get 1024 TCCD for 225 shipped...if it beats that ill buy it in a heartbeat
Where and to what are you referring to? Just curious :)

capmuffin

11-23-04, 09:05 PM

Where and to what are you referring to? Just curious :)

if the new ocz is cheaper than the 2x512 i can get(along with anyperson for that matter) for $223+ shipping (2 bux) i will gladly buy it....pm me for the link :D

9mmCensor

11-23-04, 09:44 PM

http://xtremeresources.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35033

Osirus

11-23-04, 10:26 PM

damn... Thats nice 9mmCensor. Might check into that. my board cant do more then 2.8vdimm though

lbbo2002

11-24-04, 12:02 AM

Keeping the Bh-5 and Bh-6 I have as they will do better at lower voltage. Shame the intel platforms cant run as high as the AMD

SteveOCZ

11-24-04, 05:16 AM

Wow they do ok on Intel as well :)

Some 939 #'s
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11944434~mode=flat

enduro

11-24-04, 10:30 AM

gvblake22

11-24-04, 10:34 AM

Wow they do ok on Intel as well :)

Some 939 #'s
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11944434~mode=flat
:eek: :eek:
:drool: :drool:

G0DZILLA

11-24-04, 10:36 AM

Haha, you wish enduro.

Joe Camel

11-24-04, 10:45 AM

wonder what V they had that @?....

This Ram will Not perform well Unless you give it Voltage (Over 3.2V) but it will Hold Tight timings though.

is nice but...

if i could get 270 1:1 2,2,2 ...i just might get my 3Ghz (+/-) Winnie... stable ;) (what a dreamer i am...but maybe;) )

enduro

11-24-04, 10:47 AM

He had it at 3.5V which compared to BH5 isn't that bad. BH5 would probably need a lot more vdimm to get up that high unless you had a magic stick.

And immediately after I said that this song starts playing i my head: " I've got the magic stick,......." :rolleyes: Uh huh, now you hear it too :D

Joe Camel

11-24-04, 10:50 AM

cool, ive tested up to 3.6V on my AV8 mobo and DDR Booster and the VTT tracked and things were stable...over that and something (mobo or RAM) went crazy.

enduro

11-24-04, 10:52 AM

What's the highest vdimm that you can use on a A64? Someone was posting that you can burn out the memory controller on the cpu with too much vdimm??? Is that true?

Joe Camel

11-24-04, 10:56 AM

probly...:( i THINK that was more in the early days of the 64's, but im sure it still happens...

THIS (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26650&page=1&pp=25)

would be a good place to look for a better answer (than mine)...;)

fldrice

11-24-04, 11:38 AM

K4mui

11-24-04, 12:40 PM

But Winbond stopped producing ICs after CH-5- sure, they did some testsamples for BH-4 (ES) and probably wanted to start DDR-II but then Infineon came up and bought them :mad: :temper:
I'd be very surprised (and VERY happy!) if they were Winbond.
Keep in mind they won't be limited edition, so OCZ seems to have plenty of those chips

SteveOCZ

11-24-04, 01:26 PM

Wow, that's incredible 270 Mhz at 2-2-2. 3.5V You definitely need some vdimm, but if they can hit 270 Mhz I'm not sure what people were saying about them being low speed ram with tight timings. That's killer.

OCZ needs to start hiring guys on the forums to test out this stuff at a discount :D Starting with the first person to post about it :bday:

We have a beta testing team that gets used once in a while to test new products. Some really excellent guys on it.

I just got my VE today and its at 255FSB 2-2-2-0 3.25V on my DFI UT so far running memtest to burn it in

enduro

11-24-04, 01:48 PM

Well, you know, when you're done with it you might want to give it a caring home. They require a lot of attention and a warm place to overclock. :D

Keep us updated man, this is conveniently right next to Christmas but I'll go along with it, this ram looks sweet.

K4mui

11-24-04, 03:44 PM

Gautam

11-24-04, 03:49 PM

Infineon bought Winbond eh.....

Hynix, I still say no way in hell. Since when have Hynix done jack crap with voltage?

flapperhead

11-24-04, 03:53 PM

Man, why did I "waste" my money on TCCD :bday: :attn: :attn: :drool:

The results are fantastic. I want to see if this is faster than 285MHz 2.5-3-3-11 1T, but I think it is.
Next time I'll PM you and ask when you're going to shock the market the next time @OCZ :bday:

dont despair my friend remember the later version of these chips seem to run real fast@ 2.2.2.5 with added voltage. if u bought ur stuff within the last couple week u may have the newer tccd...

SteveOCZ

11-24-04, 03:58 PM

dont despair my friend remember the later version of these chips seem to run real fast@ 2.2.2.5 with added voltage. if u bought ur stuff within the last couple week u may have the newer tccd...

Well that is true, but from everything we have found there is no set group of chips that are all voltage loving. Some do and some don't so it kinda sucks :(

Anyways here is 265 w/3.4V on a lanparty UT and 3200+. This passed 45 mins of memtest test #5 and #8
http://img127.exs.cx/img127/7968/265pi.jpg
http://img127.exs.cx/img127/778/everestlatency265.jpg

This isn't the max but so far I think it shows promise.

Steve

flapperhead

11-24-04, 04:09 PM

enduro

11-24-04, 04:15 PM

:cry: It's beautiful

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_dual_channel_gold_vx

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_gold_vx

SteveOCZ

11-24-04, 05:05 PM

Boy these chips sound alot like bh6. they are like 15/17 nm process so they really love voltage. i have a stick of kvr with bh6 and at 3.5v it runs 255/260..maybe they convinced infineon to krank up the old winbond bh6 die for some more. to me it would make ,ore sense than retooling and redesigning from the ground up.. not to mention the cost. hey steve?? am i getting close???

Not really. From what I've heard the bh-5 and 6 dies were destroyed/lost when they stopped making them and not even their engineers remember how to make them again.....go figure :eh?: I think we tried a year ago to get winbond to make stuff but it was a no go. :(

jcw122

11-24-04, 07:03 PM

wow...thats kinda a sad/mysterious story...im serious....mabe there is a conspiracy! WA...WA...WAN!!!! lol

man_utd

11-24-04, 08:40 PM

Hmm, well I am starting to come around to this. Perhaps if I ever do go A64 (1 cpu) I will look into this.

flapperhead

11-24-04, 09:13 PM

Not really. From what I've heard the bh-5 and 6 dies were destroyed/lost when they stopped making them and not even their engineers remember how to make them again.....go figure :eh?: I think we tried a year ago to get winbond to make stuff but it was a no go. :(

ok steve let me ask u this... is it memory that we are familar with??? ie hynix d43. micron -5bc.. etc..

enduro

11-24-04, 09:19 PM

oooo, good question. :D Didn't even think of asking that.

flapperhead

11-24-04, 09:25 PM

oooo, good question. :D Didn't even think of asking that.

yeah this is killin me, i gotta know.... Waaaaaaaaa!!!!

Reefa_Madness

11-25-04, 01:16 AM

These IC's really look like IC's manufactured by Winbond. If you look carefully, you'll notice the two circular dimples the center of the IC, which was to the best of my knowledge, something that was exclusive to Winbond IC's.

http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/TENJIKAN-DDR.htm

You are absolutely correct that the dimples are like the ones used by Winbond. The linked site is the one that has the pictures of the ICs, and if you compare the new OCZ branded stuff to the Winbond it is very similar. If Infineon purchased Winbond (is this a for sure?), then I find it hard to believe that the equipment to manufacture the ICs would be destroyed as well as that there are no "plans" for engineers to refer to. I had someone in the memory industry tell me that he had heard that Winbond was being made again. It would be plausible that the much talked (speculated) about bh-4 is here, after all.

There is one other IC manufacturer, however, that has dimples on their ICs according to the linked site and that is TwinMoss. Any possibilities here???

shole01

11-25-04, 04:40 AM

I had some PC3200 ram with mosel 5ns chips a while ago that did 200 2-3-2-6 at 2.7v
maybe it could be mosel?

SteveOCZ

11-25-04, 05:05 AM

ok steve let me ask u this... is it memory that we are familar with??? ie hynix d43. micron -5bc.. etc..

I doubt it since this is the first run of the chips ever :)

I like this game......mwahah

K4mui

11-25-04, 05:51 AM

ok steve let me ask u this... is it memory that we are familar with??? ie hynix d43. micron -5bc.. etc..

Probably not, as I thought about it already- oh I see Steve answered- thank you for confirming (http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=3241569&postcount=62) :D

Reefa, I doubt that they are TwinMOS. I can and will ask someone working there though. Maybe he knows.

G0DZILLA

11-25-04, 06:43 AM

I am sure we will know soon enough.

SteveOCZ

11-25-04, 09:19 AM

enduro

11-25-04, 09:22 AM

:drool: :drool: Wow, 267 at 3.35V. That's in single channel though, if you wouldn't mind doing a DC test run that would be awesome. Still though, 2-2-2 at 267.

Edit: Happy Thanksgiving yall, and flapperhead did you just get white stars or have I been really inobservant. Congrat's either way.

SteveOCZ

11-25-04, 09:25 AM

I don't have a 939 board here sorry

scooter787b

11-25-04, 10:21 AM

what about loosened timings at 3.35 what could it do?

SteveOCZ

11-25-04, 10:26 AM

This ram doesn't go higher with loose timings. Cas 3 helps some, but I haven't maxed out 2-2-2 yet

G0DZILLA

11-25-04, 10:33 AM

Go Go Steve , see what it can do.

K4mui

11-25-04, 11:06 AM

Well this is memtest stable 3.35V same system as before. Haven't pushed my other stick yet only threw it in last night to see if it could do 250 2-2-2 and it could :attn:

http://www.spec3.net/dfi/267.jpg
http://www.spec3.net/dfi/267read.jpg

I wondered about this pictures in the german forum as well- seems pretty low in my eyes.
I'm getting 3615MB/s in Everest on socket A with 243MHz 2.5-3-3-11 1T (but Dualchannel!)
Was this 2T?
My BH-5 on the same mobo did 255MHz 2.0-2-2-11 1T and I got more than 3.8GB/s

jcw122

11-25-04, 12:19 PM

I doubt it since this is the first run of the chips ever :)

I like this game......mwahah

so i guess we have hit a wall guys (a very expected one as he said this were the first ICs to be used by anyone) so basicly we WONT know the ICs until they tell us! NEW IC's WOO!

by the way Steve....what kind of cooling is being used on that rig u just showed images of? i have an A64 3000+ and im trying to figure out which type of cooling i should get to OC with...

flapperhead

11-25-04, 12:32 PM

so i guess we have hit a wall guys (a very expected one as he said this were the first ICs to be used by anyone) so basicly we WONT know the ICs until they tell us! NEW IC's WOO!

by the way Steve....what kind of cooling is being used on that rig u just showed images of? i have an A64 3000+ and im trying to figure out which type of cooling i should get to OC with...

yeah soon as this stuff comes out, we will literally be hearing the peeling sound of heatspreadders as they come off.. LOL...

scooter787b

11-25-04, 01:19 PM

wouldnt this show it, if you could tell?
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19662

SteveOCZ

11-25-04, 01:49 PM

I wondered about this pictures in the german forum as well- seems pretty low in my eyes.
I'm getting 3615MB/s in Everest on socket A with 243MHz 2.5-3-3-11 1T (but Dualchannel!)
Was this 2T?
My BH-5 on the same mobo did 255MHz 2.0-2-2-11 1T and I got more than 3.8GB/s

Nope it's 1T. Keep in mind I just shot off this benchmark with no tweaking (sound, lan and USB are all still on as well as some other programs open)

Here is 2 hours memtest as well. I screwed with the votlage part way in but the pic explains the rest

http://www.spec3.net/dfi/267tweaker.jpg
http://www.spec3.net/dfi/mtest267.jpg

K4mui

11-25-04, 02:58 PM

I always have USB and LAN activated during benching- does it make such a difference?

Okay, just to ask you, you told us they aren't BH-5/6.
Are they BH-4? They look like the ES of BH-4 I've seen at XS

SteveOCZ

11-25-04, 03:00 PM

It does make a difference.

K4mui to be honnest I don't know what chips they are I only know who makes them for us. But there is no way its bh-4 :)

K4mui

11-25-04, 04:49 PM

But there is no way its bh-4 :)

That's sad ;)

Hmm, if you don't know what chips they are, maybe you could just tell us what chips they are :D :beer: ;)

scooter787b

11-25-04, 04:57 PM

if you don't know what chips they are, maybe you could just tell us what chips they are

i think you mean since he doesnt know what chips they are, who makes them? :p

fldrice

11-25-04, 09:44 PM

There is one other IC manufacturer, however, that has dimples on their ICs according to the linked site and that is TwinMoss. Any possibilities here???
Winbond was contracted by several companies, including TwinMos, to manufacture IC's. This previously stated fact explains why some IC's from other brands appear to be identical to Winbond IC's. On another point, it would seem as though these IC's, in some way, have stemed from Winbond's design, as the physical similarities can not go unnoticed. Take a look at the physical similarities of these modules side by side in the followig pics of BH-5 and these mystery IC's. Note: the Kingston IC is relabled BH-5
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/fldrice/images/BH-5%20sim%20to%20ocz%20vx.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/fldrice/images/ocz%20vx%20similar%20to%20bh5.jpg

Clutch_Head

11-25-04, 11:46 PM

(raises hand) eh, whatever happened to CPU-Z (http://in.yahoo.com/*http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) showing the module information?
<example>
http://www.honkykong.net/rich/images/CPUZ_modules.png
</example>

version 1.20 has it :-/.

i'm curious what module information (if any) are on these sticks.

ZachM

11-26-04, 01:16 AM

CPU-Z shows the info that is programmed into the memory. For example my Mushkin LII BH-5 just says "Enhanced Memories", which is Mushkin's slogan. I doubt OCZ left the original manufacturer info just sitting there waiting to be discovered by any ole' Joe using CPU-Z. ;)

Clutch_Head

11-26-04, 01:25 AM

me thinks your prolly right.

Reefa_Madness

11-26-04, 06:34 AM

Winbond was contracted by several companies, including TwinMos, to manufacture IC's. This previously stated fact explains why some IC's from other brands appear to be identical to Winbond IC's. On another point, it would seem as though these IC's, in some way, have stemed from Winbond's design, as the physical similarities can not go unnoticed. Take a look at the physical similarities of these modules side by side in the followig pics of BH-5 and these mystery IC's. Note: the Kingston IC is relabled BH-5
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/fldrice/images/BH-5%20sim%20to%20ocz%20vx.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/fldrice/images/ocz%20vx%20similar%20to%20bh5.jpg

Those similarities are why I linked the site with the IC pictures. The resemblance to the Winbond ICs is very strong.

K4mui

11-26-04, 07:06 AM

So it is Infineon @OCZ?
Or did Winbond sell their tools :eh?: :confused:

man_utd

11-26-04, 09:33 AM

Looks like infineon is using winbond's old tools.

K4mui

11-26-04, 11:11 AM

Looks like infineon is using winbond's old tools.

Winbond's good old tools ;):cool:

Steve, is this it? Okay, you probably will wish not to answer.

But how about this: does OCZ have some kind of monopole on these ICs?

Sentential

11-28-04, 09:33 PM

This ram doesn't go higher with loose timings. Cas 3 helps some, but I haven't maxed out 2-2-2 yet
Yep.... that just ruled out Micron. We all know that Micron does far better with Cas3. So it looks like I *was* right. It appears to be some varient of Infineon molded with some Winbond tech.

My quest to get this stuff in ValueRAM has officially begun. Ill post when I find it.:cool:

So I was right... it appears to be Infineon using a BH5-esk ceramic package.

flapperhead

11-28-04, 10:01 PM

Yep.... that just ruled out Micron. We all know that Micron does far better with Cas3. So it looks like I *was* right. It appears to be some varient of Infineon molded with some Winbond tech.

My quest to get this stuff in ValueRAM has officially begun. Ill post when I find it.:cool:

So I was right... it appears to be Infineon using a BH5-esk ceramic package.

god i hope ur right, but isnt it true that they can put any kind of blank they want on top of the chips???

Enduro yeah my stars suddenly turned white, i guess i hit a certan number of posts or something, i noticed sentinal has white strs also.. must come when u get 9 stars...

K4mui

11-29-04, 06:41 AM

god i hope ur right, but isnt it true that they can put any kind of blank they want on top of the chips???

Enduro yeah my stars suddenly turned white, i guess i hit a certan number of posts or something, i noticed sentinal has white strs also.. must come when u get 9 stars...

And relabeling is also possible- will be a hard job to find the ICs in VR-modules...

but hey, those stars look reaaally nice :D :clap:

Sentential

11-29-04, 08:15 AM

god i hope ur right, but isnt it true that they can put any kind of blank they want on top of the chips???
Yes and no....however Im going by both bestbuy and circuit city. I know both places have Infineon and mosel. If i find a match (i have photographic memory and knwo what the VX looks liek) Ill let you guys know.

Ill be sure to post both the model number, stepping etc etc. Hell if I really do find it. I just might buy the stuff long enough for a picture ;)

Sentential

11-29-04, 11:13 AM

I HAVE A POSITIVE ID on the chips. Need help deciphering em

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=3251371#post3251371

eva2000

11-29-04, 12:01 PM

Not really. From what I've heard the bh-5 and 6 dies were destroyed/lost when they stopped making them and not even their engineers remember how to make them again.....go figure :eh?: I think we tried a year ago to get winbond to make stuff but it was a no go. :(

wow didn't know that!

here's how far i can get these OCZ Gold VX (http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=223) on P4C800-E rev2.0

Seems my pair shine at 3.6-3.7v and love a few burn in sessions (never really believed in burn in sessions) but so far went from 233mhz 3-2-2-6 at 3.6-3.7v to 240mhz 3-2-2-6 at 3.6v

2.8C SL6Z5 water cooled
P4C800-E rev2.0
2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold VX DC Kit
OCZ DDR Booster rev2 with the 3 pieces silver heatsinks

@ 240mhz 3-2-2-8 8burst length 16T with PM = Turbo at 3.6v vdimm

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/thermochill120_3/MCP650_Silverprop/2.8C_B542/OCZ/PC3200GoldVX/2x512/240-240-3226-8-1.6-3.6-1.8_Turbo/mem-buff.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/thermochill120_3/MCP650_Silverprop/2.8C_B542/OCZ/PC3200GoldVX/2x512/240-240-3226-8-1.6-3.6-1.8_Turbo/mem-unbuff.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/thermochill120_3/MCP650_Silverprop/2.8C_B542/OCZ/PC3200GoldVX/2x512/240-240-3226-8-1.6-3.6-1.8_Turbo/everest-read.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/thermochill120_3/MCP650_Silverprop/2.8C_B542/OCZ/PC3200GoldVX/2x512/240-240-3226-8-1.6-3.6-1.8_Turbo/everest-write.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/thermochill120_3/MCP650_Silverprop/2.8C_B542/OCZ/PC3200GoldVX/2x512/240-240-3226-8-1.6-3.6-1.8_Turbo/everest-latency.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/thermochill120_3/MCP650_Silverprop/2.8C_B542/OCZ/PC3200GoldVX/2x512/240-240-3226-8-1.6-3.6-1.8_Turbo/superpi-32m.jpg

http://www.fileshosts.com/pentium4/D1/asus/p4c800e_results/thermochill120_3/MCP650_Silverprop/2.8C_B542/OCZ/PC3200GoldVX/2x512/240-240-3226-8-1.6-3.6-1.8_Turbo/prime95_3hrs11min54s.jpg

seems swapping the modules around in the same dimm 1+3 slots ocs better

240mhz 3-2-2-8 is with stick 1 + 2 in dimm 1+3

memtesting right now at 250mhz 3-2-2-8 16T at 3.6v better than before so stick 2+1 in dimm 1+3 respectively

bobmanfoo

11-29-04, 12:25 PM

3-2-2-8? i thought these modules ran with tight timings, esp. with such high voltage, BH-5 killer? i think not

Sentential

11-29-04, 12:27 PM

3-2-2-8? i thought these modules ran with tight timings, esp. with such high voltage, BH-5 killer? i think not
I think he has the timings wrong, because clearly the OCZ techs are using 2-2-2

bobmanfoo

11-29-04, 12:33 PM

he got to a max of 228mhz with 2-2-2-6 at 3.5v according to his link above

enduro

11-29-04, 12:45 PM

That's a little odd. I wonder what's up with this. 3-2-2 ??? 240 Mhz at 3.5V?

bobmanfoo

11-29-04, 01:01 PM

That's a little odd. I wonder what's up with this. 3-2-2 ??? 240 Mhz at 3.5V?
yeah i wonder why he didn't go from cas 2 to 2.5 instead of jumping to 3, cas 3 isn't very appealing. my 120$ gig of corsair value pc3200 is running at 236mhz with 2.5-3-3-6 on stock voltage....

SteveOCZ

11-29-04, 01:10 PM

He is using intel

eva2000

11-29-04, 01:38 PM

1. GOLD VX is optimised for AMD64 not Intel P4 on my P4C800-E the ram does 228mhz 2-2-2-6 at 3.5v and 240mhz 3-2-2-8 at 3.6v. Moving from cas 2 to 3 allowed me to clock higher. Cas does jack all difference in performance, it's tRCD and tRP that needs value of 2 for best performance on both P4/AMD64 platforms. 236mhz 3-2-2-8 will beat the pants off 236mhz 2.5-3-3-6!

2. On AMD64 they will go alot higher with 2-2-2-6/10 timings.

enduro

11-29-04, 02:35 PM

I didn't see that you were using a P4. I'm sorry. For the misunderstanding and the fact that you use a P4 :D

eva2000

11-29-04, 02:45 PM

check my 3dmark compares in sig ;) will be testing on AMD64 soon enough :)

enduro

11-29-04, 03:50 PM

:D Yeah, the scores don't lie. In all honesty, there isn't too much of a difference between P4's and AMD's. P4 locks their chips but they overclock like crazy. AMD unlockes their mobiles and they overclock like crazy. My brother has a P4 with everything else the same and he gets the same scores. I've used it and I like it. I think the AMD vs P4 rivalry is more in the name instead of for a special reason ( ie Chevy vs. Ford). I'm probably shaking the foundation of the forum's computer religious beliefs ;) but hey. It's my opinion.

gvblake22

11-29-04, 03:55 PM

Joe Camel

11-30-04, 09:34 AM

damn...excaliberpc still dosnt have them "in stock"...sitten here hittn refresh with them in my basket...;)

hope once its like 8am in Caly, they'll wake up and "stock" them :)

Osirus

11-30-04, 09:37 AM

hehe.. Joe Camel - there business hours are 9am to 5pm PST. So in 1 hour and 15 minutes, (at the time of this post)

Joe Camel

11-30-04, 12:24 PM

now ETA is pushed back to 12/3/04...:rolleyes:

Joe Camel

11-30-04, 07:00 PM

well sheet!

they did get 10 sets in and sold them all in minutes...check the xtreme (http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46152&page=17&pp=25) thread...this blows! :bang head

trueplaya4ever8

11-30-04, 07:26 PM

what other stores are selling these besides excaliber?

Joe Camel

11-30-04, 08:12 PM

well, if what they say is true and these arnt limited edition, there should be plenty of places "soon"...but i wanted to play THIS weekend :cry:

Reefa_Madness

11-30-04, 08:49 PM

Yeah, those guys over there were like a pack of wolves preying on a poor doe. They jumped all over that stuff.

Should be fun when they start posting results this weekend. I know that I'll be checking in now and then.

I'm just curious as to where the sweet spot is when the increase in memory speed (at the expense of timings) is sufficient to offset the fast timings. Will 285 at 2.5-3-3-10 beat the 250 at 2-2-2-10 (A64) or does it take 295 or 300+ or what? It will be interesting to see how this develops.

Reefa_Madness

11-30-04, 08:56 PM

what other stores are selling these besides excaliber?

This frenzy is like what occurred with the Booster. It was selling for $10-$20 more than MSR when it first came out, then dropped in price, in some places below MSR.

Here is a link to another site carrying it, but for about $25 more. They are asking $147 per 512MB stick, plus $4 and some change for shipping. It will cost over $300 for a gig vs $269, plus shipping at excaliber.

http://www.computerhq.com/OCZ_512MB_DDR_PC_3200_OCZ400512ELGEVX/products/partinfo-id-529219.html

gvblake22

11-30-04, 09:04 PM

wow, must be nice to have the cash to toss around when new products just come out...:(

trueplaya4ever8

11-30-04, 10:05 PM

Did steve say if the memory got hot when it was up there at 3.5-3.6v? or did i miss it? not to worried about were to get it now, i guess since i hope to get for christmas. :D

Reefa_Madness

11-30-04, 10:28 PM

I do seem to remember some of the guys over at XS suggesting having fans blow over the ram and one guy asking about mounting fans so yes, in all likelyhood, at 3.5v some additional heat is being generated.

SteveOCZ

12-01-04, 04:32 AM

Any memory getting over say 3V should have some form of cooling to keep it happy. A slow 92mm fan works great for me

K4mui

12-01-04, 04:57 AM

Will 285 at 2.5-3-3-10 beat the 250 at 2-2-2-10 (A64)

Oh yes it will... :D

But in this case you'd have the problem that your mobo and your iMC could limit your OC :cry:

Ad Rock

12-01-04, 06:53 AM

wow, must be nice to have the cash to toss around when new products just come out...:(

I always found these statements to be unnecessary. I mean do you get jealous of everyone that has more money than you? What about all the people who you have more money than? I enjoy watching people "toss" money around on new products cause then they test them and usually post results for all of us too see. Instead of being jealous be happy that they are buying and testing these products out for us, so we can get the best value for our own dollar.

flapperhead

12-01-04, 06:59 AM

Any memory getting over say 3V should have some form of cooling to keep it happy. A slow 92mm fan works great for me

my buddy knows air conditioning. i wonder if i could build a prommy for memory and would it be worth it. i seem to recall someone saying extra cold doesnt help memory much..

SteveOCZ

12-01-04, 09:05 AM

Well there was a guy at XS that mounted little TEC's on his vid card ram chips and watercooled the TEC's. I don't think it helped him any but I saw a watercooling kit you can buy for system memory, but from the looks of it you can only use 1 dimm :(

enduro

12-01-04, 09:13 AM

Wow, talk about xtreme. Then again we're talking about XS too........ I can't think of too many ram modules that would required TEC's. My pc3500 EB could have probably benefited from it-- that stuff burned up like nothing else.

gvblake22

12-01-04, 09:24 AM

I always found these statements to be unnecessary. I mean do you get jealous of everyone that has more money than you? What about all the people who you have more money than? I enjoy watching people "toss" money around on new products cause then they test them and usually post results for all of us too see. Instead of being jealous be happy that they are buying and testing these products out for us, so we can get the best value for our own dollar.
Sorry, it was unnecessary, I apologise, I'm done now:(

Joe Camel

12-01-04, 12:17 PM

Stumpjumper5200

12-01-04, 12:41 PM

gixxer420

12-01-04, 01:47 PM

Heck yea got mine ordered today will be here friday

gvblake22

12-01-04, 02:09 PM

I may be looking into build a new system sometime in the near future. I plan on it being the powerhouse mine was when I first built it. :attn:

That being said, I believe I am set on a gig of this memory with the DDR booster. :D What's the deal with 2GB of memory? Aside from price, is there a good performance increase while benchmarking/gaming, or is it mainly a "because I can" kind of thing?
I'm sure it will probably give you a moderate increase in gaming, but I don't think it would be that much over a Gig and it really wouldn't be worth the $$. Most games will run fine with a gig of RAM but if you were doing lots of other stuff like really intense encoding or video editing or 3D solid modelling or something then MAYBE 2Gb of RAM would be beneficial. But I've never really seen any benchmarks comparing 1gb RAM to 2GB RAM...

SteveOCZ

12-01-04, 04:28 PM

Now with 2 sticks. I think I'll be able to do 265FSB with both sticks in as soon as I play with the drive strength some more

http://www.spec3.net/dfi/1024MB4MPi.jpg
http://www.spec3.net/dfi/1024MB260fsb.jpg

tedy

12-01-04, 04:54 PM

steve you gotta gimme her email somehow :>

Joe Camel

12-01-04, 06:03 PM

excaliberpc has a FEW in stock...

SteveOCZ

12-01-04, 06:15 PM

Production will be increasing very very soon so prices should level out and many more places will have this in stock

trueplaya4ever8

12-01-04, 06:20 PM

Production will be increasing very very soon so prices should level out and many more places will have this in stock

Before Christmas I hope. :D

SteveOCZ

12-01-04, 06:34 PM

More like next week :)

trueplaya4ever8

12-01-04, 06:37 PM

More like next week :)

GOOD!! :santa: :clap:

uno

12-01-04, 06:55 PM

I just placed my order today......ge em while they last! ;)
OCZ PC-3200EL 1GB Dual Channel Gold VX CL 2-2-2-8 at 3.2V (OCZ4001024ELDCGEVX-K)

Rustafur

12-01-04, 09:18 PM

Has anyone tried getting the big volts flowing through this memory without the use of OCZ's DDR Booster? I know some alternative bios (namely from DFI) that can let you raise the mem. voltage up to 4v without the use of a booster. Just curious if anyone has tried this angle with any luck

gixxer420

12-01-04, 09:25 PM

u have to mod the psu to get more than 3.2 volts to the mem on the DFI

boostdfd3s

12-01-04, 09:27 PM

From what ive heard, the memory gets its voltage from the 3.3V rail, so the only way to go above that is a booster or modding the board

K4mui

12-02-04, 05:40 AM

so the only way to go above that is a booster or modding the board

So what? :santa: :cool:

This is not made for me, I hate modding boards- I've done one mistake and cooked my CPU :( (was an old PII)

Steve, that's impressive- I wonder why you don't rate tham 250MHz 2-2-2 at 3.xV?

SteveOCZ

12-02-04, 10:49 AM

Then we would have to test them at higher speeds which would make them more expensive and that was not the point of this ram :)

K4mui

12-02-04, 03:43 PM

Then we would have to test them at higher speeds which would make them more expensive and that was not the point of this ram :)

Oh I see. Little present for us, right :santa:

Maybe I'll give them a try just waiting for my new rig, NF2 is not made for these speeds, and after all I want to get another A64... :clap:

bluesaint7

12-02-04, 04:03 PM

since im already on "the list"...give excaliberpc.com a CALL and get on the "reserve" list for this mem...;) they expect to get the shipment in around 2pm (PST)...and they dont expect more than 10-15 sets...again.

GOOD LUCK!!

Whew, luckly i work 2 minutes away from them.. Just called to reserve for local Pickup :santa2:

On a side note, i have a msi k8n neo2 plat with 3500+ .13nm, what do you guys think i should be able to OC at with these ram? my ps is antec tru480

gvblake22

12-02-04, 04:23 PM

Whew, luckly i work 2 minutes away from them.. Just called to reserve for local Pickup :santa2:

On a side note, i have a msi k8n neo2 plat with 3500+ .13nm, what do you guys think i should be able to OC at with these ram? my ps is antec tru480
Its kinda hard to say since this stuff is so new and it hasn't really been tested yet, but I would say from the few results I've seen, you could probably get 250-260 at 2-2-2 (if you can give 'em enough volts of course ;) )

Be sure to post back and let us know how it goes though!! :drool:

d4rr3n

12-02-04, 05:38 PM

Just got my vx ram today, I was hoping to get 260 out of them. The first stick I tested appears to be stable at 257 (so close :-/ ) and will boot into windows for a suicide run around 272....if after burning in and tweaking i can get 260+ stable i will be very very happy. My second stick appears to be a dud and will need to be returned. It fails prime in about 30 seconds and errors out in memtest at 200, let alone the "easy" 250. Very disappointing after what i went through to make sure i got a pair of these..... :mad:

SteveOCZ

12-02-04, 05:52 PM

Hey d4rr3n

Have you played with the drive strength and other settings? What voltage are you using at 200FSB and what timings?

Please email me and we will get things sorted out for you

Steve

Reefa_Madness

12-02-04, 07:34 PM

Hey guys...look at what OCZ's sales manager has done. Sold the entire remaining production runs of VX to Fry's. No one else will have any until 2005. Quote at XS from Ryan of OCZ.

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I just got word that thanks to people begging for the product at Frys electronics , that frys has order the entire rest of the years production of VX.

Just so you know. ;-)
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If you have actually personaly experienced a problem with a OCZ product that was not solved quickly by our wonderful support staff I would like to know. Feel free to PM
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Here is the link to that post by Ryan.

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46152&page=25&pp=25

Steve,

Can we get a confirmation on this?