Frdge Questsion

[train22]

I have just looked at a frigde post and I was wondering what's all the fuss about? It would be much simpler to just put the entire resovir + pump or radiator or both inside, why not just do that? and that way you don't have to worry about condensation or soldering or anything, it will even work much better. Just a bit more space, but if you think about refridgeration you'll know that it will take a load of space anyways, so why??

[Rob Cork]

I guess it's a personal thing - what you suggested would probably mean having two separate units, the fridge and the computer case, with pipes for the watercooling system running between the two. However, with the sort of system Treker's trying to make (I assume that's what your referring to), there is no watercooling system I think, just the refrigerant loop. It's essentially the same as a vapochill setup, only a hell of a lot cheaper. Taking out all of the components (compressor, radiator etc) is a lot more involved, but I expect also more effective in the end. I think I'd get more satisfaction out of making my own vapochil than just sticking my reservoir in a fridge!

With refrigerated water, it'll still be above 0C, and the cpu temp will probably be somewhere around 20C under load. However, with a vapochill style setup, using an evaporator on the cpu, you could probably get lower temps, around 10C.

Just my $0.02 as they say in the US - if it were me, I'd go for the build-your-own vapochill. I may do one day :)

[train22]

lol, thanx Rob, I like the idea but it seems too dangerous to try and if they will have to stick everything above the comp anyways, it may be a little smaller but still not gonna fit inside.

Good luck to all you bravehearts, just remeber to post PICTURES PLZ!!! It's what I live on (other than beer)

[ptcg]

I got a refrigeration only setup to run at 8C under full load... And you're right, you need to put it on top of the PC because it won't fit inside :)

[Treker]

Originally posted by ptcg
I got a refrigeration only setup to run at 8C under full load... And you're right, you need to put it on top of the PC because it won't fit inside :)

Actually if I moved my psu I could fit it all in the top drive area :)

Gotta love a full tower case with (6) 5.25 bays :)

-Trek

[train22]

well, lol, a worksation with it on the top is the same as a full tower on the inside top or even better. The idea is also to keep it small, we don't want to get back to using those roomy comps from the later 70s. So having 2 boxes isn't so bad, 1 comp that connects and disconnects really easy from the fridge. (radiator and revisor)

Although I agree with Rob in that it will not be as cool as straping on the evaporator straight onto the cpu I find it safer to use your plain old watercooling with just much much cooler water. Making the evaporator work right is gonna be tough and very likely to be a trouble some time in the future.

[Treker]

Originally posted by train22
...Making the evaporator work right is gonna be tough and very likely to be a trouble some time in the future.

From what do you draw this conclusion?

-Trek

[train22]

after reading some articles on fridge cooling I've noticed that every single one of them says that the evaporator is the most important to get right and if you don't insalate/construct it well you are dead after a few hours/days.

[Treker]

Originally posted by train22
after reading some articles on fridge cooling I've noticed that every single one of them says that the evaporator is the most important to get right and if you don't insalate/construct it well you are dead after a few hours/days.

even as watercooling has its 'risks' so does refrigeration cooling have its 'risks'.. Also in both cases as long as you know what you are doing.. that 'risk' is minimalized to almost nothing.

There is a science as much as an art to the whole works, refrigeration cooling is harder to set up, true... but it is also the best cooling solution there is. :)

-Trek