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_Will_
09-10-01, 02:19 AM
reading all the reviews and such...im just wondering....with minimal mods to the case as far as better airflow....and possibly limiting the water cooling to only the CPU...

could u effectively turn this system into a workable overclocking machine with a minimal amount of money?

actually....not even an overclocked machine, but rather...could u fix it easily enough just so that it would be sufficient for raw AMD cpu clocks...and some hardcore 3d gaming?

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i really want a SILENT machine....but i don't have the time to build a water cooling machine piece by piece....and i also want something that isn't too heavy or bulky that i can't carry it around or i have to reassemble every time....

but then again...i guess i can always get a nice case....get some glaciators....some big 120mm fans for intake/out.....and have a minimal noise factor there too

sorry....its a little late....i'll prolly wake up tomorrow morning and think "coolance? what the hell were u thinking??!!!"

dimmreaper
09-10-01, 02:22 AM
It would do fine for a non-overclocked gaming machine.

It would do sort-of OK for minimal overclocking, but nothing extreme. The new "high-performance" version would be best for overclocking though.

_Will_
09-10-01, 02:36 AM
if i do buy it it'll definately be the new performance one, yes

what would be the major mods you'd suggest?

dimmreaper
09-10-01, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by _Will_
what would be the major mods you'd suggest? Just a quiet 120mm filtered fan in the side panel to keep the vidcard cool, and balance out the air flow a bit.

Flash
09-10-01, 10:52 AM
You might consider a better waterblock, too. But you'd have to deal with the thermal probe attached to the Koolance block which controls fan speed.

r0ckstarbob
09-10-01, 11:08 AM
just ran into this case for the first time today.

whats wrong with it? does it suck or something? looked pretty high speed from where i was sitting. but i haven't seen (or gone looking for) any reviews of it either so don't know.

i take it this thing's a lemon...

Flash
09-10-01, 12:46 PM
The case looks OK, but the review posted on this site showed some pretty so-so to high temperatures for a water cooling rig. As the review noted, the case is pretty lacking in ventilation. Also, the waterblock has a copper base with a *plastic* top--not so good. OTOH, the radiator looks pretty good, the layout is clean, and it has built-in fan speed control. I think by adding a 120mm intake and an 80mm exhaust, along with a better block, you'd have a winner.

_Will_
09-10-01, 01:45 PM
thanks everyone for the input

i think i'm convinced i can "fix" this thing....may look a little uglier when im done....but hopefully a lot more efficient of a cooling case!!!

_Will_
09-10-01, 01:47 PM
the koolance.com website posted the reviews there....although some are kinda bad....but that shows what honest up-front people they are up at koolage

be careful tho....the older reviews are for an older version of the case...and that one was a lot worse than the current

_Will_
09-10-01, 01:52 PM
flash

as far as i know...i don't think a front intake is possible unless u cram one in the floppy drive space or move some of the water cooling quipment around

if u did move stuff around i still don't think theres much space in the bottom for a good sized fan (60mm mayyyybe....and those are loud....and against the rules for water cooled cases)

im thinking a side intake would be the best strategy (single/dual 120mm) ....then if the top fans need a little tweaking...i could replace them with something a bit more powerful

Flash
09-10-01, 01:59 PM
Yep, it would definitely have to be a side-mounted blowhole. I'd think that one would be sufficient.

_Will_
09-10-01, 08:46 PM
well...i just picked up a 120mm fan from "da shak"....thing boasts 85 CFM and i don't doubt it!....but this this is LOUD!!!! i think im gonna need to tone down the voltage a little bit...


i put it on my overheated monitor (turns yellow after a while...) and WHOA...

i touch the top and i swear i couldn't even see a HINT of heat comin off that sucker


used to have an oscillating fan pointed straight at it on hi....and that didn't come anywhere close

hehe....so anyway...im happy....just need to get an adjustable "noise meter" and i'll be set

_Will_
09-10-01, 08:48 PM
lol....did i mention when i push the on botton for the monitor i can feel a rush of air seeping thru the craps? now thats cooling ;)

_Will_
09-10-01, 08:50 PM
ah yes a GRILL too....i grazed this thing as i was messing with the adapter wires and it made me bleed just a little....and that was just while it was speeding up

when they say these things can cut fingers they're not kidding....i wouldn't want to imagine what those 250cfm fans would do!!!!

Flash
09-10-01, 11:39 PM
I highly recommend the Panaflo LN1 fans. What you lose in cfm you more than make up for in peace and quiet!

weedenbc
09-11-01, 12:21 AM
Do NOT get this case. I bought one about 2 months ago and after extensive modding it still sucks. I put an 80mm panaflow on either end of the radiator (one intake, one exhaust), put in a new pump, new PSU with 2 cooling fans, and hardwired all the fans to 12V. I ended up with 115F from MBM on an overclocked Celeron (533@800).

My Geforce2 GTS card was able to do 395MHZ RAMDAC with the stock fan but with the koolance waterblock it crashes at anything over 350. And this was without even using the hard drive cooler.

My suggestion is to do your own. For about $150 you can get top-quality CPU water block, pump, radiator, tubing, and fans. Add $120 for an Antec tower case and you are set.

The newer Koolance case looks to be a winner tho. Their site says that it has about 3 times the cooling capacity of the old one and it the SAME PRICE.

Brian

r0ckstarbob
09-11-01, 11:57 AM
it doesn't make any sense to take this piece of crap and try to make it work. it sounds like buying a VW bus and wanting it to work like a porche. so you buy the bus for a couple of grand and then spend $80,000 dollars in modifications to get it to perform where you want and in the end, the best it can do is act like a honda civic. and you're still driving a bus.

i could understand the effort if you got suckered into buying one of these things and wanted to recoup some of your loss as a result. it makes NO SENSE to purchase one straight out of the chute, KNOWING it sucks, and trying to get it to perform. this thing is suppose to help the customer save the time, money, energy and effort of doing a watercooled system yourself. by the time you're done you will have spent more time, energy, money and effort then if you had just started from scratch.

just go get a real watercooling system from dangerden or some company like that. you're going to be alot happier in the end by the sounds of things

_Will_
09-12-01, 01:14 AM
haha...didn't mail out the check or anything yet and from what u guys keep telling me....i think im gonna write a biggass VOID on it and shred as we speak :)

don't have much extra time to build one myself....but oh well...i'll make time....hehe....who needs sleep anyway?

i think i'll pick up a good antec case and DD kit ;)

_Will_
09-12-01, 01:19 AM
but you've got to admit the "cameleon" factor is always kinda fun ;)

r0ckstarbob
09-12-01, 01:26 AM
well you've got a great resource at your fingertips if you need help!