Memtest86 failed. Please HELP analyze the results!

[svetko]

I ran memtest86 v1.40 (because my system was crashing) and this is what I got:

1. used both ram sticks on Dimm1 and Dimm 2, memtest86 failed on test#7 [Random number sequence], on the 14th minute.

2. Used only one stick (Kingston Value) in DIMM1. Test failed on test#7 (again) on the 8th minute.

3. Used my other stick, which I think was Kingston too, but I just don't see "kingston" anywhere on the stick. (I think I put it in DIMM2) Test failed on the same test #7 on the 7th minute.

4. Used the Kingston stick in DIMM3 - test failed on the same test#7.

I don't know if all this means anything. Please someone tell me if the problem is clearly in my RAM. (Kinda strange for both sticks to be bad though..) Should I run more tests?

[Know Nuttin]

try loosening those timings.

have you tried DIMM 2?

[svetko]

try loosening those timings.

have you tried DIMM 2?

Yes - same failure in DIMM2.

My timings are actually 2.5-3-3-7 as of the "Optimal Settings" in the BIOS. I haven't changed anything there, because it crashesh if I try. What exactly timings should I try? (I'm fresh to this)

[Super Nade]

If your RAM fails at the rated settings (SPD) it's bad and you need to RMA it.

[Know Nuttin]

it's possible you have a faulty memory controller. It's hard to see 2 different sticks of memory failing the same test at around the same time.

[RJARRRPCGP]

I ran memtest86 v1.40 (because my system was crashing) and this is what I got:

1. used both ram sticks on Dimm1 and Dimm 2, memtest86 failed on test#7 [Random number sequence], on the 14th minute.

2. Used only one stick (Kingston Value) in DIMM1. Test failed on test#7 (again) on the 8th minute.

3. Used my other stick, which I think was Kingston too, but I just don't see "kingston" anywhere on the stick. Test failed on the same test #7 on the 7th minute.

4. Used the Kingston stick in DIMM3 - test failed on the same test#7.

I don't know if all this means anything. Please someone tell me if the problem is clearly in my RAM. (Kinda strange for both sticks to be bad though..) Should I run more tests?

Please try 2.5-3-3-7 and with a VDIMM value increase by one step.

[svetko]

it's possible you have a faulty memory controller. It's hard to see 2 different sticks of memory failing the same test at around the same time.

what is "memory controller"? is it on the mobo?

Please try 2.5-3-3-7 and with a VDIMM value increase by one step.

increase the "7" by 1 step?

[svetko]

Please try 2.5-3-3-7 and with a VDIMM value increase by one step.
cool - just started that with the Kingston stick in DIMM1 at the default 2.5-3-3-7 (again) and it PASSED successfully all tests! :attn: (6 times in 75 minutes and going!)

I might sound dumb, but I feel like memtest actually made my RAM better.. :) But this is not possible, right?

- Would this mean that this particular stick is fine? The system did crash in the first 2 tests..

- How long should I keep it going if it doesn't crash? (just to know for sure te stick is fine)

- When I had both sticks (in DIMM1 and DIMM2) it was still showing "Single Channel" in memtest86 screen. Shouldn't it say "Dual"? (Both sticks have same stats, even if they are different models.) Does this mean something's wrong with the 2nd stick, or maybe I should use DIMM3 instead of DIMM2?

[Know Nuttin]

describe how/when/what you were doing when you say the system crashed during the first 2 tests.

-test for at least 8 hours. Just let it run.

Dual Channel should be DIMM 1 or 2 and DIMM 3.

[svetko]

- the test have been running for almost 4 hours now with no crushing. passed like 20 times so far.

I'm running this test exactly like the second one that I ran, just before it couldn't pass even once. here:

--1st test that crashed: used both ram sticks on Dimm1 and Dimm 2, memtest86 failed on test#7 [Random number sequence], on the 14th minute.

--2nd test that crashed: Used only one stick (Kingston Value) in DIMM1. Test failed on test#7 (again) on the 8th minute with 0 passes.

My settings for ALL tests were the defaults, loaded with "Load Optimal Settings", with mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7. That's why I don't understand how it crashed before and not this last time (still going).

- never tried using my two sticks in DIMM1 and DIMM3 - thought I was supposed to use them in 1 and 2. could this be the reasom for my system crashes?

[svetko]

****.. the test went for over 4 hours and I had to stop it and move the computer in the livingroom.. since I did that EVERY test failed. I ran over 9-10 times - always failed on the same old test#7. I dunno how it passed it that one time (and was going for over four hours).

for the tests after that one I first tried the same exact optimal default settings (2.5-3-3-7) like 3 times - it never passed test #7 again. then, keeping the rest settings on "optimal", I tried:

2.5-3-3-8 (crashed on test#7) :bang head
2.5-3-3-9 (crashed on test#7) :bang head
2.5-3-3-10 (crashed on test#7) :bang head
2.5-3-3-11 (crashed on test#7) :bang head
2.5-3-3-12 (crashed on test#7) :bang head

all failed at the same spot: 7 minuts and some seconds, test#7. could not pass it even once.

also, my computer crashes every time when I exit the BIOS, and when the sys restarts I get a message: "CPU unworkable, settings changed, check Softmenu.." or something, and I notice it also says "DDR333", which I never set to such.. then I enter the BIOS and I see that everything actualy is fine, and the mem timings are exactly like I left them before it crashed. So, I just exit the BIOS WITHOUT SAVING, and memtest loads fine.. and crashes later on the mentioned test.

what do you think is the problem? is it the mobo or is it the RAM?

btw, what is "memory controller"?

[Know Nuttin]

memory controller is how your CPU accesses your memory. If you have a faulty controller, then you'll get errors. It's built into the motherboard chipset.

try reseating everything again.

[Ol!ver]

Put the RAM in slots 2 and 3 (the two furthest from the CPU). That'll sort your bios crashing, and should sort your memtest problem.

Keep us posted.

Oli

[arealsparky]

save yourself some headaches, go down to best buy or some other big retailer and buy some new ram, test it and if it works, then return your old ram and keep the new stuff, if it doen't work, return it and get a new MOBO. Remember the acronym K.I.S.S.

[Ol!ver]

save yourself some headaches, go down to best buy or some other big retailer and buy some new ram, test it and if it works, then return your old ram and keep the new stuff, if it doen't work, return it and get a new MOBO. Remember the acronym K.I.S.S.

Eh?

I'm 95% certain what I suggest will sort it. Hope so anyways :D

Oli

[Robbie]

Why don't you flash your bios to the latest version, then load "fail safe" settings THEN test your mem.
Rob

[arealsparky]

Eh?

I'm 95% certain what I suggest will sort it. Hope so anyways :D

Oli

I think it would be great if it did, just thought it would be easier to isolate the problem component, so you don't waste time or money, fixing the wrong thing. Thats the thing I love about the big retailers, you can borrow stuff for thirty days with a security deposit...

[svetko]

memory controller is how your CPU accesses your memory. If you have a faulty controller, then you'll get errors. It's built into the motherboard chipset.

try reseating everything again.
Thanks. Can it cause the constant BIOS crash that I'm having?

Put the RAM in slots 2 and 3 (the two furthest from the CPU). That'll sort your bios crashing, and should sort your memtest problem.

Keep us posted.

Oli
okay - done - and crashed again... on the exact test#7. I also did flash the BIOS with Abit's latest version (26) and I tryed this last test with "Fail-Safe Settings" loaded. didn't help...

save yourself some headaches, go down to best buy or some other big retailer and buy some new ram, test it and if it works, then return your old ram and keep the new stuff, if it doen't work, return it and get a new MOBO. Remember the acronym K.I.S.S.
I like that idea. I kinda doubt that both my ram sticks are bad, but will try that. Help me with what kind to buy - I want to get a stick of 512MB, so I can add another one in a couple of months from the same type to make it a gig. I'm not going to oc alot - maybe just a little.

I also just realized that in the exact moment when the system crashes there's this "click" coming from the computer.. Sounds like when you break something plastic.

[facialicious]

could this be insufficient power?

[svetko]

I don't think so - my psu is 550W, even if it's not a best brand..

I realized another thing though. On the sticker of my RAM says:

256MB 333MHz DDR PC2700 DIMM CL2.5

2.5V

but in my bios there's no option to set lower than 2.6V for the RAM.

also for some reason when I load "Optimal settings" it sets the ram to 266MHz instead of 333. Is that normal?

[svetko]

ah.. no one helping... I guess RMA the mobo would be the answer..

[PingSpike]

I don't think so - my psu is 550W, even if it's not a best brand..

I realized another thing though. On the sticker of my RAM says:

256MB 333MHz DDR PC2700 DIMM CL2.5

2.5V

but in my bios there's no option to set lower than 2.6V for the RAM.

also for some reason when I load "Optimal settings" it sets the ram to 266MHz instead of 333. Is that normal?

So you're running this ram at 333 right? Because that appears to be all its rated for.

Flash your bios to latest version, might be a good idea to check the changes list for things like "fixed memory compatibility errors". But, regardless, flash to the latest version as some one else suggested.

Regarding the voltage, more voltage usually makes things more stable. Conversely, it makes them hotter and they die faster...all electronics are slowly dying when in use though. :D

Try upping the vdimm (ram voltage) a little bit.

Just try clearing the bios and see what the SPD sets everything at as well.

[Sentential]

ah.. no one helping... I guess RMA the mobo would be the answer..
Change the Cas Latency to 3. 2.5 might be too much

[svetko]

The latest BIOS version on the Abit site is ...26, wich I have installed already. I don't know if I should install a different one - please tell me if you know a good/latest version and where to get it from.

I tested my memory on a friend's computer, so it's all good.

I spoke with that tech support guy from Abit again today. Told him the voltage for my ram is listed 2.5v on the sticker, and my mobo does not have such an option. The minimum is 2.6v... He just said "more voltage is even better".. whatever.. Is my mobo defective though, for not having a 2.5v option or this model just does not support it???

I don't know what/who else to ask..

thanks for help anyway, guys.. gonna test with latency 3, and if it crashes again wil RMA the mobo.. :santa2: :cry: :mad:

EDIT: crashed on 8-2-2-3 too.... on the same place..

[RJARRRPCGP]

Try 3-4-4-8.

Just like with DDR2. LOL.

[aNTiChRisT]

I believe ddr2 is 4-4-4-10 :o

But yea try underclocking to 100mhz FSB or something

~t0m

[svetko]

tried 4-4-4-10 too.. same problem..

[rbwilton]

In Memtest what does it say you processor speed is? if it's a 266MHZ processor and your running it at 333mhz your overclocking it without increasing your core voltage. If your running your memory at 1:1 you would be doing this. You also haven't increased your Vdimm as suggested above. You may need a nice boost in the vcore if you have a 25% overclock on your cpu. The Voltage options are on the bottom of the first bios screen.