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Now, for Your PC: Mac OS X

By Leander Kahney | Also by this reporter Page 1 of 1

02:00 AM Oct. 13, 2004 PT

A Hawaiian company specializing in streaming video claims to have developed a $50 software emulator that allows a Windows PC to run Apple Computer's Mac OS X.

Maui X-Stream on Tuesday announced CherryOS, a virtual PC that mimics the hardware of a G4 Mac.

The company said it is already working on a stand-alone version that cuts out Windows XP. A stand-alone version of CherryOS would allow OS X to run on a cheap commodity PC without the added expense of Microsoft's operating system -- provided the emulator works and Apple's lawyers ever allow it to see the light of day.

Available as a 7-MB download, the CherryOS software emulates a G4 processor and includes the chip's multimedia-boosting Velocity Engine, formerly known as AltiVec. It also features support for USB, FireWire and ethernet. It automatically detects hardware and network connections, the company said.

"You basically have all the hardware," said programmer and designer Arben Kryeziu, who claims to have written the software from scratch in the last four months.

Kryeziu, a native of former Yugoslavia who grew up in Germany, said he developed the software initially on his own, but was persuaded to release it as a product by his boss at Maui X-Stream, Jim Kartes.

"It started as a personal project," Kryeziu said, speaking from Maui. "It was Jim's idea to sell it. If it was up to him, we would have charged a lot more. But you have to go out and buy OS X."

Apple charges $129 for a copy of its current version of Mac OS X.

A programmer, designer and web developer, Kryeziu said he settled in Hawaii after meeting his wife on vacation. There, he found a job with Maui X-Stream developing a streaming video player.

"It's not a hoax," Kryeziu added in response to widespread skepticism about CherryOS on the net. "We have a name and a reputation. We need to protect that."

Within hours of announcing the software, the company's servers were quickly overwhelmed.

"We're trying to set this up so we can take orders over the phone right now," said Kartes. "We had no idea there'd be this interest."

According to Kryeziu, CherryOS performs at about 80 percent of the speed of the PC host's hardware. The emulator uses up the other 20 percent.

Kryeziu recommends a 2-GHz processor, but said the software runs quite happily on a 1-GHz laptop. He said it is capable of simultaneously running Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Internet Explorer and Safari, among other programs.

"It's like running OS X on my G3 laptop," Kryeziu explained. "There's some pauses, but it's not too bad."

Kryeziu said on a 3.2-GHz Pentium 4 desktop with 1 GB of RAM, the software is as snappy as native Apple hardware.

"On a fast system, it's just as fast as running on a Mac," he said.

Kryeziu said CherryOS runs to 36,000 lines of code and was inspired by open-source Mac emulator PearPC, but is not in any way based on it.

"There's a big difference," he said. "They are way slow."

The name is a play on Apple and Pear.

"The logo came to me in a couple of seconds," Kryeziu said. "A cherry is fresh and virgin."

Kryeziu said he developed it to help evangelize Mac OS X.

"I'm a Mac guy and a PC guy," he said. "I love Apple and the hardware. Apple is very strong but things are not going in the right direction. It's just ridiculous that Microsoft is more popular.

"A lot of people can try out OS X and see how beautiful the environment is," he added. "It makes it easier to spend money on the hardware if they see how beautiful it is."

Kryeziu said he has already started work on a stand-alone version of CherryOS that can be installed and run without Windows. He said Maui X-Stream has hired a couple of programmers to help.

"It will take a lot of development," he said. "We're looking at January or February next year."

Wendy Seltzer, staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, said Maui X-Stream may face legal challenges from Apple on patents or copyrights, but users are likely protected.

"If people running the emulator have a valid copy of OS X to run on top of it, there should be no problem doing that," she said.

Apple officials did not respond to requests for comment.

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But, is it going to be slow, require a 2.8 ghz Athlon for the same performance as
Windows 2000 Pro with a 2.25 ghz Athlon? LOL.
 
For most stuff you do, is 2.25GHz really all that slow? I mean, sure that kind of processing power will help for photshop and other CPU intensive things, but would you seriously do that kind of stuff emulated (assuming you had access to PC versions of the software)?

This emulator sounds cool, but /me waits for Apple to release an x86 port of OSX (...aka: hell to freeze over :D). I'd love to have my PC running that yummy looking OS.

JigPu
 
I've got three words:
spiro multimax 3000.
The first link is as good as any.


Edit: I should probably have some other words too.
"SPIRO MULTIMAX 3000" is a nonsensical term used in the code for PearPC, and open-source PPC emulator. The author of CherryOS claimed that his work was completely original, but one of the PearPC devs found a screenshot of CherryOS with "SPIRO MULTIMAX 3000" in it. A senior systems dev from the University of Wisconsin also found that each function he looked at in the cherryos code was identical to its PearPC counterpart.

I'm not necessarily saying that CherryOS is doomed to be vaporware, but I wouldn't put my hopes in code whose supposed author is most likely to be lying about the origin of the code he's trying to sell.
 
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CherryOS is a rehash of PearPC. An already available free emulator of OSX for x86. Or at least it was when they first gave out a few demos/betas two or three months ago.

PearPC runs OSX on x86 since around last spring btw.
 
I really dont care what the true story is with cherryOS. If it can provide high stability and 80% speed as it claims then I'm all for it.
 
OBLIVIONLORD said:
I really dont care what the true story is with cherryOS. If it can provide high stability and 80% speed as it claims then I'm all for it.

From what I've read it does not preform anwhere near 80%. It is completely identical to the older version of pearcp See here, a slashdot article for more info and links.
 
OSX for X86 if ever haappened would be wrothless, since all mac sofware is written for PPC!

besides, whats wrong with using darwin hmm? its the same effect as if osx was for x86...altho do you get the snappy aqua UI? jeez i think if apple sold an installer that replaced the explorer in windows with Aqua, theyd get some profit.
 
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