I need a little help.

[Silver]

I have an intel 2.8ghz that I would like to get up folding. All I need is the case and harddrive. What I need help with is knowledge on how to connect the a64 box with the Intel box so that one dsl may be used to get out on. Also would be good to know how to use one monitor to monitor both boxes (lan?), router(?), how and what. I am admittedly nieve on this subject.

[I.M.O.G.]

One monitor as in using a KVM to connect both boxen to one monitor, or do you mean a program like EMIII which will monitor folding progress on both machines? Either way, you need a KVM switch or download EMIII depending on which you were asking. ;)

I do not know anything about DSL, but AFAIK, your transceiver (modem) will need to connect to a bus or router to split the connection between multiple PC's. As I said, I don't know anything about DSL really, but I think as far as home networking is concerned, it closely resembles cable.

There is also ICS, which may be an option for you which may be able to avert the cost of a hardware bus or router. But I am not familiar with ICS either. Perhaps this contains some useful information: http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/sharing.htm

[jonspd]

you could connect and disconnect the 2.8 everytime a workunit if done that way the 2.8 is only using the dsl when it's sending work or getting work other then that you need a router or switch but if you want I have a case and harddrive with 2 extra port's on my router :D/

[Silver]

There seem to be a number of ways to do this however I am not sure as to how to do it much less how to do it efficiently. Cost of course is a factor. I believe a router would be needed but what kind, what cards, etc I am not sure. Furthermore, as you mentioned, a means to monitor the second box (or more) would be needed but em3 should accomplish that without any trouble. The real problem for me at this time is how to connect the boxes so that one dsl modem can be used and which components to purchase.

[I.M.O.G.]

How does your modem connect to your PC? If it is USB you cannot use a hardware router, and will have to go the ICS software route:

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/dsl.htm

[Silver]

you could connect and disconnect the 2.8 everytime a workunit if done that way the 2.8 is only using the dsl when it's sending work or getting work other then that you need a router or switch but if you want I have a case and harddrive with 2 extra port's on my router :D/

Problem of course is that this would be inefficient. When it needs or has work to send out then either box should be able to access the modem. I do thank you for the offer however I think I shall keep them both here for now. I have had the 2.8 up to 4Ghz during benching sessions however I think around 3.5 should work well for folding. I need a good cheap solution. After doing some reading an 8 port (?) router would seem right so that future expansion is taken into consideration. Which one and how?

[I.M.O.G.]

What you are looking to do may be number six in the pictuers on this page. The setup you want, is the option on the top left of number 6.

http://www.dslreports.com/pictures

Actually, maybe this isn't what you want if you are considering future expansion, but it would be the least cost prohibitive solution for just getting another folding box up for now atleast.

[jonspd]

If you use a cat5 cable to connect to you pc via dsl modem I would get a router and be done with it other then that the only other thing you might need is a nic of cat5 cable. 4, 5, 8 port router should do the job.

[Silver]

Something like this won't work?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=33-124-022&depa=0

It's connecting to the computer through a usb cable.

Maybe this helps, the modem is a Westell dsl router.

[I.M.O.G.]

You cannot use a hardware router if your modem uses a USB cable, going by the guide I was referring to, which seems pretty clear for a beginner like myself - it does not mention any exceptions to this rule. Other than what I found there, I don't know.

You can get a combo router/modem, or you can use ICS according to one of the sites I linked earlier:

If you have a DSL modem with a USB connection, you won't be able to use a separate hardware router, and will have to use the software sharing method, or get a combination DSL modem/router.

[Silver]

OK, how about setting up one system as the server and having all info going through the server to the net via a lan type setup?

[jonspd]

Maybe this helps, the modem is a Westell dsl router.


I have the same modem all you need to do is get a router and 3 cat5 cables. 1 for the modem to router and 2 for each computer. cat5 is a better connection then usb IMO anyways. if you have onboard lan on both you want need a nic if not then you will need a nic for each that doesnt have one.

[Silver]

something like this?

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/6323

[jonspd]

Yea that's pretty much how mine is set up and I think newegg has the dlink for 22 buc after rebate

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=33-127-013&DEPA=1

[Silver]

Cool, how about recommending a good but cheap nic card. Also, any idea on a descent 8 port? Atlanta, whereabouts? I've moved rescently up to Dallas.

This is 8 port, will it work for the same setup? This router, 3 cat 5 cables and two nics. correct?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=33-124-022&DEPA=0

[FizzledFiend]

hmm what OS you running..the easiest and cheapest way is to use the built in features of XP and do a simple home networking from your main machine....heres how it works. You need 1 spare nic card in your main rig. Your main rig connects any-which-away you want it to the internet/modem. the spare nic in your main rig is used to deed internet to your other box..you use a crossover cable (cat5) wired up a tad different. you can make it yourself or i can make and send you one..basically your main rig acts as the router/switch for the second box. I personally have 4 nics in 1 box and feed 3 others..so you get like 1 in and 3 out..only drawback to this setup is that when main rig is off the otehr systems lose there internet.

understand that or do i need to make prety pictures? :)

[KrisMCool]

A simpler solution than running a separate router (since the Westell is a router) is to use a switch. I use a Gigabit switch, and there's nothing to configure. The Westell modem handles the routing duties, and I have 4 rigs hooked up to the switch. I tried a router, but had problems turning in WUs (D-Link router I was using said "I" was spoofing Stanford's site). My D-Link Gigabit switch hasn't given me one problem. Hope this might apply to your situation.

[Silver]

A simpler solution than running a separate router (since the Westell is a router) is to use a switch. I use a Gigabit switch, and there's nothing to configure. The Westell modem handles the routing duties, and I have 4 rigs hooked up to the switch. I tried a router, but had problems turning in WUs (D-Link router I was using said "I" was spoofing Stanford's site). My D-Link Gigabit switch hasn't given me one problem. Hope this might apply to your situation.

Can you link the switch for me. It's just that I am not exactly sure of what you are talking about. Have never done this sort of thing.

[KrisMCool]

Sure. This is the one I have: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-111-020&depa=0

If you're not concerned with link speed, this should work also: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-111-009&depa=0

[jonspd]

Cool, how about recommending a good but cheap nic card. Also, any idea on a descent 8 port? Atlanta, whereabouts? I've moved rescently up to Dallas.

This is 8 port, will it work for the same setup? This router, 3 cat 5 cables and two nics. correct?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=33-124-022&DEPA=0


Yea that 8-port look's nice but I have found that running more then about 3-6 computer's in your house will cause a big electricity bill.

fairburn about 5 min's from peachtree city.

[Silver]

OK, picked up a case for $15.99 shipped, Two small hardrives for $20 shipped (small hardrives, read older will work fine for folding), 3 cat5e cables for $8 shipped, gigafast 4 port router for $27 shipped (hate mail in rebates so avoided it). This should get the intel up and give two machines folding with room for two more. Anyone on a cheap good nic shipped? As for using one monitor, keyboard, mouse to control up to 4 computers, am looking at a KVM 4 port switch available at Newegg for $38.99 shipped. That would complete the upgrading for now. That is unless I find the mobo and processor on one of my old xp systems. :p

What's up with Newegg? Can't seem to get in.

Also broke 1000 points today (though it won't show till later tonight. Should be up around 1270). Seems to me like fairly descent production given 6 days production. Could be better but I managed to xxxx up a couple folding sessions well into them. "Tweaking as usual". Remember, it is only one processor.