New PSU - PCP&C or OCZ

[Sneaky]

alright, i'm truly stuck between these two power supplies

the PC Power & Cooling 510 ATX-Deluxe

or

the OCZ Powerstream 600w


please list the pros and cons of both, and which you would choose to buy if money was not an option (only deciding between these two, do not list any others)

Thanks
-Justin


edit: it will be running the following

3.0 P4 @ 3.83
3 D4 Laing pumps
6 Sunon 120x38mm fans
6 80mm green LED fans
2 hard drives
1 floppy drive
2 optical drives
4 CCFL's
1 PCI blower

[thegreek]

PC Power & Cooling

and by the way, what do you have to need 3 D4 Laing pumps? :eek:

[Ad Rock]

PC P&C wins if you are looking for the ultimate PSU. However if you want your PSU to be quiet and still powerful enough to handle all of the items that you listed the OCZ would make a great choice.

[juliendogg]

PC P&C Pro's - Best there is
PC P&C Con's - Must sacrifice body part to purchase

OCZ Pro's - Should be plenty of power for most users, more affordable
OCZ Con's - Um.. dunno. I've heard nothing but good things about it

[Sneaky]

PC Power & Cooling

and by the way, what do you have to need 3 D4 Laing pumps? :eek:


triple radiator and d-tek whitewater

radiator adds alot of friction head to the loop, and more pressure with the whitewater is better, because it is based on a restrictive design - then the loop still needs pressure to feed a silverprop HL gpu block



and i really don't care about noise... so so should i just go with the PC P&C? - its only like $200 from the mfg's website

[Xenocide]

ocz will be PLENTY for that setup.

im running the 600w on mine, not even stressing it, all my voltages are with in 1%

[Oklahoma Wolf]

Either will more than adequately power that load. Grab the one that looks best for your needs. PC P&C has the edge in build quality and warranty, but OCZ is much easier to find.

If money were no object, I'd actually choose neither... would want to give Zippy's PSL-6701P-SATA 700w monster a try at $301.50 @ Newegg. Not that I'll need anywhere near that kind of power anytime soon.

[Sucka]

Own both, love both.

Pros to the PCP&C are ROCK solid rails, great looks (sleeved), great customer support (bought mine from warehouse local, VERY nice guys there), bragging rights.

Cons: Price, only one fan (could be pro or con?), price, no external adjustable pots, price

Pros to OCZ, Price, more future proof with the PCI-E wire/BTX ready, adjustable pots are easy to use, very solid rails, almost equal to that of PCP&C (drops a tad more with load)

Cons: Green LCD lights, more drop under heavy load, lower rails (yet still more than enough), green LCD lights, and of course those stupid lights :p

Either one will get the job done, if money is no concern, my vote goes PCP&C, but you won't do wrong by going OCZ, unless of course you don't like green lights. If you can't tell, i really hate those lights...lol

[mongoose470]

Turbo Cool Deluxe if you want the best performer.

Mine is truly as solid as a rock. <=10mv AC ripple on all rails confirmed with an O-Scope. The best I've seen a Powerstream do is 25-75mv, about 50mv average.

Voltages?

True Idle (no devices, not even the motherboard.)

12V: 12.10
5V: 5.09
3.3V 3.352

System Idle (all devices connected, computer booted, no proggies running.)

12V: 12.10
5V: 5.08
3.3V 3.343

Full load:

12V: 12.09
5V: 5.07
3.3V 3.341

Note regarding full load. Those aren't averages, they represent the lowest reading I obtained.

Noise? I can't hear it over my case fans (three 92mm fans @3000 RPM.)

[mongoose470]

Cons: Green LCD lights, more drop under heavy load, lower rails (yet still more than enough), green LCD lights, and of course those stupid lights :p

A good choice for those who want a Tommyknockers lighting scheme for their case :)

Be careful with the OCZ pots. They're SENSITIVE!

If you want future proof or max versatility, get the Turbo Cool SLI or Express.

[Sneaky]

lol... though i'm pointed in the direction of the PC P&C right now... if i do get the OCZ... my case is already green (see my sig)... er... almost too green :p

[OCS911]

lol... though i'm pointed in the direction of the PC P&C right now... if i do get the OCZ... my case is already green (see my sig)... er... almost too green :P

isn't that what you want at the first place? GREENIE

[Sucka]

lol... though i'm pointed in the direction of the PC P&C right now... if i do get the OCZ... my case is already green (see my sig)... er... almost too green :P

Then the green shouldn't bother you :p

Is there any type of budget here?

[Sneaky]

the PC P&C is basically the most im willing to pay right now - so some crazy 700w or something is out of the question, as i'm not running quad xeon naconas

[Sucka]

the PC P&C is basically the most im willing to pay right now

You answered your question before this thread was even posted.

[veryhumid]

Turbo Cool Deluxe if you want the best performer.

Mine is truly as solid as a rock. <=10mv AC ripple on all rails confirmed with an O-Scope. The best I've seen a Powerstream do is 25-75mv, about 50mv average.

Voltages?

True Idle (no devices, not even the motherboard.)

12V: 12.10
5V: 5.09
3.3V 3.352

System Idle (all devices connected, computer booted, no proggies running.)

12V: 12.10
5V: 5.08
3.3V 3.343

Full load:

12V: 12.09
5V: 5.07
3.3V 3.341

Note regarding full load. Those aren't averages, they represent the lowest reading I obtained.

Noise? I can't hear it over my case fans (three 92mm fans @3000 RPM.)

really good data. it's nice to see some numbers from an oscilloscope. besides mine cooking yesterday I really loved it. and it may not have even been the power supply's fault.

[Oklahoma Wolf]

the PC P&C is basically the most im willing to pay right now - so some crazy 700w or something is out of the question, as i'm not running quad xeon naconas

By all means then, grab the PC P&C. It's more than enough for your needs, and OCZ was never really intended to compete at that level of build quality. IMO, OCZ is an Antec alternative, not a PC P&C alternative. But, both will easily power the system in question.

The 700w Zippy is my personal "money is no object" choice... haven't seen a system on these boards yet that would need such a PSU. It actually is in fact meant for quad Xeons, and is probably too long for most standard ATX cases. I just don't think I should be limited to only two brands when asked that question :p

[mongoose470]

really good data. it's nice to see some numbers from an oscilloscope. besides mine cooking yesterday I really loved it. and it may not have even been the power supply's fault.

When did you buy yours?

[Electron Chaser]

PCP&C. They are the true pinnacle of PSUs. I have both as well. I like my OCZ but I just love my PCP&C.
I use them in all the industrial PCs I custom build for the PC controlled machines I design and program as well. One less failure point I ever have to worry about.

[mongoose470]

By all means then, grab the PC P&C. It's more than enough for your needs, and OCZ was never really intended to compete at that level of build quality. IMO, OCZ is an Antec alternative, not a PC P&C alternative. But, both will easily power the system in question.

The 700w Zippy is my personal "money is no object" choice... haven't seen a system on these boards yet that would need such a PSU. It actually is in fact meant for quad Xeons, and is probably too long for most standard ATX cases. I just don't think I should be limited to only two brands when asked that question :p

The only issue with Zippy is their voltage regulation and AC ripple isn't on par with PCP&Cs high max performance series PSUs. Although the spec sheets say 1% for PCP&C on AC ripple, it's actually rated at 10mv.

But 700 REAL WORLD watts is impressive. I ignore all wattage ratings obtained at lower than normal operating temps and it appears Zippy doesn't stoop to that level.

Can't wait to see the reviews on the 850 watt PCP&C, but I can wait on the price tag.

[Oklahoma Wolf]

The only issue with Zippy is their voltage regulation and AC ripple isn't on par with PCP&Cs high max performance series PSUs.

I'd wager Zippy does far better than their online spec sheets. They are very highly regarded units.

Found a thread here from last year with some interesting Zippy info and rumors: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58571&page=1&pp=15

[Prodigious]

PC P&P most definitely.

That thing can pump out 650 watts if you keep it cool enough. as far as the one fan thing, most psus secondary fans don't do anything, and/or are meant to suck hot air away from the cpu(thereby INCREASING psu temperature). The turbocool 510deluxe, has an autoadjusting fan so, noise isnt an issue as long as you keep your system cool, and teh fan is very effective(mine is throttled down all the way 99% of the time, and the psu only feels warm to the touch, not hot).

[mongoose470]

I'd wager Zippy does far better than their online spec sheets. They are very highly regarded units.

Found a thread here from last year with some interesting Zippy info and rumors: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58571&page=1&pp=15

I'm impressed by the fact that they're not your typical snake oil PSU salesman. They appear to rate their power supplies honestly (ala Fortron and PCP&C.)

But I'm a "data talks, opinions walk" man. Considering its a server based PSU, it's doubtful there will be many reviews of it since most sites are aimed toward enthusiasts and not enterprise usage. Too bad because I'd like to see it put to the test. Perhaps Dissolved will oblige my curiosity.