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Kaosj306
09-16-01, 05:12 PM
Hey all,


I recently put together a T-Bird 1.4 Ghz with 512 megs of DDR ram and all the other good stuff (look at my signature). I was useing the computer in my air conditioned room at home and it ran very stable and smooth. I brought the computer to my un-airconditioned room in college where its quite warm and the computer isnt running very stable. When i play a game such as Unreal Turnament I am almost garuanteed for the system to crash at least once, this is the same for most other games I play. The computer even crashes when I am just listening to music at times. Its not a blue screen crash its a freeze where the sound that was playing at the time sounds like a broken record and the only way to get out of it is to hit the restart button on my computer. I have a very loud and powerfull Delta fan on top of a rather large copper heatsink, along with 2 4-pin casefans. When it started crashing I took the sides off the computer and stuck a conventional fan next to it blowing air into the computer. That seemed to work a bit but it still crashes. Does this sound like something is overheating? Could the CPU greese not have been up to par or not have been puton right? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

VashTheStampede
09-16-01, 05:38 PM
I brought the computer to my un-airconditioned room in college where its quite warm

Bingo, it doesn't matter if you have 0 case fans or 4 120mm 100+ CFM case fans, if they are all sucking in the same warm air, you think that will really cool the case? Samething with the big box fan you used, it was still churning the warm air into the case.

So my thoughts, invest in an A/C unit for that room.

As for the heatsink, it's a sad state of affairs nowadays, it's not what the HSF is made of, but really who made it. So who made the HSF your using? That would also help us diagnose this problem a little further.

~RT~

Kaosj306
09-16-01, 06:19 PM
The fan is a Delta fan and i think the heatsink is Thermal Take or somthing.

MeJa
09-16-01, 06:38 PM
He's right if your all your fans (case fans) are only sucking air to the case they are sucking the same warm air from your room, thermaltake heatsinks are not that great so you're probably looking at a better HSF such as Global win or Thermalright SK6. Also if you're able to try putting a case fan on the back of the case sucking the air OUT (exhaust) that way you can get rid of some of the hot air inside the case cause by your video card, cpu and IDE devices ;)
And if you're currently using a delta fan you can just buy the heatsink by it self and put the delta on it.
Delta are great fans if you dont mind the noice :)

Good luck and keep it KOOL! ;)

VashTheStampede
09-16-01, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Kaosj306
The fan is a Delta fan and i think the heatsink is Thermal Take or somthing.

*Grabs a bottle of Holy Water and proceeds to pour it over the evil heat sink*

Begone foul, poorly made heatsink!! If it seriously is a Thermaltake, DITCH IT! They are a horrible company, who doesn't even make their own heatsinks. Huey Shyang Industries or however you pronounce it makes their orbs, I'm willing to bet they or another company makes the normal TT heatsinks.

Get one of the following HSFs, Thermalright SK-6, Globalwin CAK-38, Alpha PAL6035, Gladiator, or Vantec CCK-6035D. Alpha is coming out with a new socket A heatsink here soon, so you could wait a little longer for that one.

Here is a site that reviewed 20 HSFs.

http://anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1532&p=27

~RT~

Kaosj306
09-16-01, 11:18 PM
its Thermalright, sorry guys, I just found the box i got it in.

MeJa
09-17-01, 12:36 AM
Let us know what the current temperatures that your system is idle at! pretty strange that your cpu would be overheating :mad: with that HSF and at unoverclocked!
Try using a hardware monitor to check your temp that way you can tell us your current temps, and if you dont have it you can go to www.via.com.tw and grab via hardware monitor from there ;)

Good luck!

Sonny
09-17-01, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by RedneckTech


Bingo, it doesn't matter if you have 0 case fans or 4 120mm 100+ CFM case fans, if they are all sucking in the same warm air, you think that will really cool the case? Samething with the big box fan you used, it was still churning the warm air into the case.

So my thoughts, invest in an A/C unit for that room.

As for the heatsink, it's a sad state of affairs nowadays, it's not what the HSF is made of, but really who made it. So who made the HSF your using? That would also help us diagnose this problem a little further.

~RT~

Kaosj306 & MeJa - READ this again guys. RedneckTech hit the nail on the head;)

Kaosj306
09-17-01, 01:27 PM
I am useing the Asus PC Probe software that came with my Mobo. I just finished playing Unreal Tournament and the temperature reads 51 degrees celcius for the processor and 31 celcius for the mobo. I cant put air conditioning in the room (not allowed), otherwise i would :) Thanks for your help guys.

phiber
09-17-01, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Kaosj306
I am useing the Asus PC Probe software that came with my Mobo. I just finished playing Unreal Tournament and the temperature reads 51 degrees celcius for the processor and 31 celcius for the mobo. I cant put air conditioning in the room (not allowed), otherwise i would :) Thanks for your help guys.
asus probe sucks
it usually tells temps 10C over the normal

Karsta
09-17-01, 05:08 PM
Is it anyhow possible that the reason for crashes is the SB Live card? Isn't the CPU temp at acceptable level and SB live is known cause instability in some configurations and driver versions?

Kaosj306
09-17-01, 06:21 PM
I never thought about that Karsta. The computer has never crashed when there wasnt any sound in the background. And it seems to be running at a safe temperature. I will look further into the sound card. Thanks a lot!

Karsta
09-17-01, 11:42 PM
Thanks :) Hope it helps!

Viahardrware (http://www.viahardware.com) has a large FAQ/info section with information conserning also SB related problems.