Rosewill 500w....why is it bad??

[LeonXVII]

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=17-182-002&DEPA=0

I'm planning to get this PSU, I was sure it's good quality (maybe not the best but...) until I ran into one thread dissing it, my question is what it has that makes it so bad?? Looking at the spec. I couldn't find anything.....

[Yuriman]

The price usualy reflects the build quality. I cannot say whether or not that one in particular is bad, but it is a cheap-o power supply, which usualy means it was made cheaply and they cut corners, = much lower lifetime. The power supplies that come with computer cases usualy last anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months, but not ususaly longer(at least from personal experience) and this falls into the same category. Also, there is no standard of measurement on the rated power as far as I know(if there is, they ignore it) so they can slap any specs on there that they want. I do know for a fact though, that my 250w fortron outpowers a 400w Raidmax psu by a long shot.

[Quattro]

I had a generic 400w and it wasn't so bad lasting a whole year powering a barton rig, but when I got a 64bit rig it needs a strong 12v line, and the Antec 480w had an extra 6 Amps on the line.

[aaronrkelly]

Depends on what your doing - running at stock speeds and normal use of your PC that PSU would be fine. OCing and running 24/7 - I wouldnt trust it. If your uses are Xtreme then get a different PSU. When I build cheap "normal" use systems I usually go with generic power supplies - big ticket rigs get Antec usually. I have had real good luck with my Allied truepower 420 in my rig but I dont OC - it has been on constant (except for upgrades) for over a 1 year now.

[Sentential]

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my question is what it has that makes it so bad?? Looking at the spec. I couldn't find anything.....
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Cheap Capiciters. Thats why people are "dissing" it. I would look at something like this instead:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-934&depa=0

[MassiveOverkill]

I've seen one negative review from someone who actually owned this series power supply. On that negative review, the power supply was overvolting. I'd rather have my rails hot (to an extent) than saggy. Why are people dissing it? I guess that every single power supply made that doesn't have OCZ, Fortron, Sparkle, Antec, or PC & Power Cooling is automatically crap. To these peeps there is top-of-the-line, and crap. There is no middle of the road for them.

This is an excellent mid-grade power supply. My overclock proves it.

[Mdogs444]

PSU's are like car amplifiers. If you have a stock setup, a generic power supply will be more than sufficient, which is why i have NEVER EVER seen a power supply on a stock, store bought (or dell, etc) system go bad. I work for a software company who has over 500 pcs in house at any given time. If you plan to over clock and get more power out of your system than what is rated for, then you will need an upgraded high end PSU to be able to supply your system with the power needed, not only quantity, but quality power. A high quality, lower powered psu (or watts in car amplifiers) will run more effectively than a low quality, high power psu.

[<<Spider>>]

This is a good PSU. A buddy used that PSU and works very well for his A64. It delivers plenty of power for on the 12V rail for a good video card and A64. The A64 uses plenty of 12V rail. Even the mobile A64 uses at lease 62W (without overclocking). If you are overclocking on a A64, it easy to get over 100W on 12V for the CPU.

On that negative review, the power supply was overvolting.

Reading the amount of votage has more to do with the mobo. Some mobo reads it a bit lower and some reads it a bit higher. Or it could be that some mobo under volts and some over volts the voltage. For example, the NF7-S usually reads is a bit lower. Somewhere around 11.9V. Even after I change to a new PSU, it still reads it 11.9V. My buddy's VNF3-250 reads it over 12V with 3 different PSU. Even after he changed to the Rosewill, it still reads the same on the 12V.

I don't think it is the PSU but even if it was over volting a little, it's fine as long as it's not something way out like over 13V. My buddy has use it for about a month now and is much better than his previous Antec PSU.

[schismspeak]

Why are people dissing it? I guess that every single power supply made that doesn't have OCZ, Fortron, Sparkle, Antec, or PC & Power Cooling is automatically crap. To these peeps there is top-of-the-line, and crap. There is no middle of the road for them.
The main reason I, (and probably the same reason others) don't recommend middle of the road psu's is because I don't want the person coming back saying that the psu, that was recommended to him/her, could not power his/her pc, or it died and killed their motherboard along with it. They may not come back for advice after that, plus it would make us look like we didn't know anything. I'll repeat what has been said before(in my own words), nearly everybody spends a ton of money on highend parts so there pc will be fast, but when it comes to the powering it, they think they can use the cheapest pos they can find, and that just does not work most of the time.


LeonXVII, The psu should be ok if your aren't overclocking, and powering a ton of stuff, however if you are, I don't officially recommend it, it might be ok, it might not, we usually only recommend psu's that we know are good.

[Yuriman]

You can get a 350w Sparkle psu for around $30 that would do just as well, or maybe go with fortron. I have never had a sparkle or fortron die on me and I have owned something like 6 or 7. On the other hand, all 3 of my generic ones are dead(from 6months to a year ago).

[SavageBasher]

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=17-182-002&DEPA=0

I'm planning to get this PSU, I was sure it's good quality (maybe not the best but...) until I ran into one thread dissing it, my question is what it has that makes it so bad?? Looking at the spec. I couldn't find anything.....

Why is it bad? Hmm, come back asking why is it bad after it kills your computer.

Oh, and there really isn't any middle of the road for power supplies. They either use quality parts and work well, or they don't. :rolleyes:

[LeonXVII]

Yeh I know what you and the others are saying, is just I'm confused on which PSUs are good and which aren't, I do know that you get what you pay for, but usually you can see REAL differences in other items such CPUs or video cards, you can tell which is good and which isn't, by looking at the spec, it isn't the same with PSUs, the wattage and the output is almost the same in cheapo as in expensive ones......the only way you can see difference between them is the price, and the brand of course, but of that I know little.

[Yuriman]

If you want a good power supply, you can count on ANY Fortron or Sparkle to do the job, plus they are cheap in comparison to other high end psu's. Some recomend antec, but recently people have been talking about reduced quality control there, or something like that.

[schismspeak]

Here is a list of psu's to generally stay away from.

Aspire, Demon, Deer, Powmax, Power-Up, Eagle, X-superalien, Raidmax, L&C, Power-Man, Allied, Achieve, Codegen, Antec Smartpower(Solution series) (trupowers are fine), MGE, PCMICS, Allied, JustPC, InWin, E-power (except Tagan series), X-treme, Dynapower, Coolmax, Kingwin, Linkworld, low end Thermaltakes, Turbo, Aerocool, Devanni, and lowend enermax


As for brands that are top quality in no paticular order...

PCP&C, Zippy, Tagan, Fortron/Sparkle, Antec Truepower, or Neopower(Also their fanless one, which is phantom power I think), Enermax and then their is OCZ/Topower

Other brands would probably power a pc alright, but they are usually considered just average.

[LeonXVII]

Ok I learned the lesson, I'm going for a Fortron.....anything to point out about them?? I'm buying an Athlon 64 3000+ with a MSI VIA KT880 Pro mobo.....and planning to OC too.

[Sentential]

Ok I learned the lesson, I'm going for a Fortron.....anything to point out about them?? I'm buying an Athlon 64 3000+ with a MSI VIA KT880 Pro mobo.....and planning to OC too.
The current 3 favorites among the fortron are:

Blue Storm
550W
530W

Also Fortron owns a company named Sparkle. If you see a version of spakle thats cheaper get it.

[LeonXVII]

How about the Aurora 400W??

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-963&catalog=23&manufactory=BROWSE

[Darkstorm_13]

its 12v is pretty low.

[LeonXVII]

Yeh I heard the 64 uses 12v much....how much is recommendable??

[Quailane]

Why is everyone dissing that rosewill PSU? My dad bought one and I think it is excellent. All of the voltages are a smidgen higher than what they are supposed to be, which is good, even under load. It also has some heft to it. It is extremely quiet and looks cool. I couldn't ask for anything better.

[schismspeak]

I'd get this one as a minimum, it has the 2 12v lines, which equal to 30A http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-936&depa=0

or this one if you have the extra cash

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-935&depa=0

[LeonXVII]

Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm getting this one though:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-968&depa=0

[stryder2720]

Oh good choice.
Solid PSU!

[Aphex_Tom_9]

Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm getting this one though:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-968&depa=0
mmm, the classic.