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Oni
01-30-05, 01:37 PM
I know I'm not the only person to get this error, and I know it's not failing hardware 'cause quite a few of my friends get this error, too. What are the odds that all our hardware is failing?

I'm just doing a bit of a concensus to see how many people get this error, and what it can be linked to.

If you get this error, please list the OS you're using along with any and all service packs you've installed, and the applications that cause the error.

Thanks!

Windows 2000 SP4 fully updated.
Error occours when closing Firefox 1.0, or Folding@Home Console 5.02

Super Nade
01-30-05, 02:09 PM
No error. Never seen this one.

OS1: Win XP Pro, SP 2, .Net envoirment installed, DX9c, Omega ATi Drivers.
OS2: Mandrake 10.1 beta.

Oni, try removing all your FF plugins and see if you get this error.

Also, did you try a reinstall?

Oni
01-30-05, 02:22 PM
No, I haven't tried a re-install yet. This error doesn't really effect anything. It just pops up, states a memory address, and says 'OK'. Click ok and you're back in business, no harm no foul. It doesn't effect Windows in any real way.

Super Nade
01-30-05, 02:26 PM
Do you see this error with FF only? I think if you have Visual Studio, and if you set debugging ON, you can get a complete dump of your Registers/Stack. You can compare notes with other users using this data. I don't know how to interpret the dump, but I'm sure there are plenty of programming guru's here who can do that.

Voodoo Rufus
01-30-05, 03:01 PM
I've gotten that error before on closing Firefox, but not recently. Win2K Sp4 and FF1.0 here. I assumed it came from an OC instability. FF seems to be sensitive to that.

jaydog
01-30-05, 03:18 PM
Is it just me or is this a really wierd poll.
I have seen it, I think Ive only seen it however when I mess up while programing.

Sentential
01-30-05, 03:37 PM
Yes Ive gotten that error. Referenced memory errors deal with pre-mature RAM failure from either heat or use. I bet if you run memtest you will get several errors in a single pass. Thats where its coming from.

Oni
01-30-05, 04:14 PM
But so many people recently have had this error. Several of my friends have had it, too. All of our RAM can't be failing.

Different system configurations, some overclocking and some not.

hibner
01-30-05, 04:23 PM
XP home edition with service pack 2. I have recieved this error on firefox and I think nero.
And as Sentinal sujested I ran memtest with no errors. I also reecived it when I had SP1 on a completely stock system (no OC at all). I always thought that it had something to do with the memory controller.

Sentential
01-30-05, 04:23 PM
But so many people recently have had this error. Several of my friends have had it, too. All of our RAM can't be failing.

Different system configurations, some overclocking and some not.
Its entirly possible sadly. Have you run memetst recentally?

madman22
01-30-05, 06:22 PM
Windows Xp Pro Sp2
Winamp - whenever i choose "open" instead of "save to disk" when i view a movie from a website

Nero
3d mark01

Keiron
01-30-05, 06:56 PM
I get it also on occasion. Before and after reformat, SP1 and SP2. No idea what causes it, IE is the usual offender.

Nico3k
01-30-05, 08:06 PM
I get this error alot... 2000 SP4 with all updates. I get this only within VMWARE. Within there, it happens to FireFox and mIRC. Usually happens after I do memory intensive work, or loading web pages with 100+ huge JPG's.

stan03
01-30-05, 08:11 PM
i get this error with XP SP2 whenever im closing stuff. seems to be random. i get the error very rarely though....

Oni
01-30-05, 10:13 PM
Memtest86 v3.0. Standard test. One pass. No errors.

RAM is Samsung PC3200 running in Dual Channel at 200 Mhz. Timings are 2.5-3-3-3-8, which is what SPD set them at. RAM is also running at 3.0 VDIMM.

I'll run a more intensive test tonight, but I'm sure I can rule out my RAM.

I think it's a WinNT 5.x-based problem. Idk what it can be however, 'cause it seems random, as most people in this thread have stated.

Sentential
01-30-05, 10:18 PM
Hmmmmm very strange indeed. Usually I get those when its RAM related, either it directally or the chipset.

Saruji
01-31-05, 01:04 AM
You should post your question here (mozilla support forum) (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38) Very quick to answer and efficient.

Super Nade
01-31-05, 07:49 AM
Oni, when I was testing my RAM, I encountered a lot of reboots. The next time I ran firefox, all my customized settings disappeared. I guess it loaded in safe mode, automatically. I ended up RMA'ing the RAM (12 memtest errors at stock/SPD).

Maybe, this ties in with what you are experiencing.

The VTech
01-31-05, 08:08 AM
XP Pro SP1

Error on closing Mailwasher Pro

Sjaak
01-31-05, 08:39 AM
No problem here with XP pro and FF...

svnrd
01-31-05, 01:02 PM
on startup when trying to start the catylist ati driver control panel. i'm using xp, service pack 1

I.M.O.G.
01-31-05, 01:40 PM
I think this poll is flawed, as not everyone is understanding that the poll is only in respect to firefox... If it doesn't have firefox in the titlebar, and you have seen a similar error before, it is actually altogether different.

I have never seen this error with firefox, but have seen it in plenty of instances involving various seperate issues - spyware, buggy applications, failing hardware.

Firefox V1.0 at work (fairly certain I've got the latest version at home)
XP on both systems
SP2 with all critical updates at home, SP1 with various updates at work

If I were to put money down, I would put it on this being a firefox nuance, which could be corrected in code. I would make certain this is not specific to any page you are visiting - especially if there are any with multimedia content.

What version of WMP do you have installed, and how often do you receive this error? I would recommend upgrading, or if you have the latest version, downgrading, and then testing to see if you still receive this error.

If you could answer these questions Oni, I think it fairly likely that you and all your friends could be going to sites containing similar multimedia content, have WMP installed, and receive this error in firefox. What versions of WMP are you and your friends running?

hibner
01-31-05, 01:53 PM
the poll is only in respect to firefox
Ah I see now, although this pol clearly shows that its is not just a firefox problem.

... no errors with XP and FF but I just got it again in the middle of HL2.

Slackfumasta
01-31-05, 01:54 PM
This is not a Firefox specific error; it's a Windows error when a program crashes, and in my experience it's usually when you are shutting down the program. I've seen it in Win2k, XP SP1, and XP SP2, with a variety of programs on a variety of computers.

tae_moh
01-31-05, 01:55 PM
"CAUSE
These error messages can occur if you quit Internet Explorer after running a Java program."

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=182027

I know this isn't specific to closing IE but could this info be helpful?

I've encountered this too... memtest didn't find anything so it's really just an annoyance for me:)

I.M.O.G.
01-31-05, 02:38 PM
Ah I see now, although this pol clearly shows that its is not just a firefox problem.

... no errors with XP and FF but I just got it again in the middle of HL2.

It can be a programmatical error, which comes through windows, but can originate within windows itself or any other application (ignoring hardware problems). It is a very vague error message generally which can indicate many different things.

This thread should be about this error, in the context of the way it propagates for Oni when he is running firefox on a stable system in systems similar to his. Firefox isn't playing nice with something, so we just need to narrow down what it is - assuming Oni's problem description is accurate.

tae_moh: The MSKB is always a great place to start when tracking down a problem. What you found doesn't exactly apply here, but it can atleast serve as an analogy - this error can propagate from windows when IE and Java don't play nice, and in the same way, there is likely something that firefox is interfacing with (I would first point my finger at WMP) and they just aren't getting along.

I'm anxious to get more details from Oni, hopefully he has something further to say about it maybe.

Super Nade
01-31-05, 03:23 PM
I think it may be a problem with XP. Memory leakage isn't uncommon with M$ software :).

For the gentleman having problems with the ATi control panel, that is precisely why I switched to the Omegas. I won't be surprised if you experience lockups while gaming.

tae_moh
01-31-05, 03:35 PM
there is likely something that firefox is interfacing with


Thank you I.M.O.G, it's exactly the thought I was trying to convey. If hardware causes were ruled out, it's probably just not 'liking' another process/program.

Oh and to add, some people find this happening once they are connected to the net. i.e. when using outlook, playing an on-line game etc...

Oni
01-31-05, 04:25 PM
It's NOT just a Firefox problem. It also happens to me with Folding@Home, and Winamp 5.

I can completely rule out my RAM now.

Sjaak
01-31-05, 04:55 PM
I have had similar memory errors with Half-Life 2 and Rainbow Six:3 Raven Shield...they disappeard after awhile though, no idea how or why.

Nothing with firefox though, as i said before.

Oni
01-31-05, 10:32 PM
It's just an odd little problem, and I can't link it to anything.

It happens with lots of different apps, at different times, on machines that are overclocked and on machines that are at stock. I can't pin it down. It's more irritating than damaging, really.

CrystalMethod
01-31-05, 10:52 PM
on startup when trying to start the catylist ati driver control panel. i'm using xp, service pack 1

This is the error I usually get with Win2K SP4/3/2. I've managed to track it down to a combination of chipset drivers and not having the correct version of directX installed first, and occasionally a flaky bios revision. Might not be Oni's exact problem though.

I.M.O.G.
01-31-05, 11:39 PM
Well, thats a horse of a completely different color.

*IMOG heaves idea out the window*

hibner
02-01-05, 07:49 AM
Your kidding me. This Poll Is tied at 19-19. I have never seen a poll tied. This must mean that exactly half of the people MUST BE RUNNING LINUX!!! .....bumbles off mumbling profanities at bill gates.....

atigamerguy
02-01-05, 03:00 PM
WOW its 50/50

Cornel
02-08-05, 07:39 AM
I've seen that too...

System in sig, mildly overclocked (3.45) winxp SP2, I'm fairly certain it happend when I was closing a game but I'm not sure which one...

fadirocks
02-08-05, 10:42 AM
It's not RAM failing it's one of these junk programs you've installed on system
It happened to me but i can't remember what program produced it
Check your processes before and after message box & try to find out what's crashing but it's not affecting anything so who cares just let it Error

dark_15
02-08-05, 01:42 PM
I've had it come up with several programs... including firefox.

It is an error within windows that means a part of the program (the first number) told the processor to look for some data in the at a specific location (the second number) of your memory. When it cannot find it, the program terminates and gives you that error.

How to fix it? I really don't know other than to restart, reinstall the software that is misbehaving, or reinstall windows.

fadirocks
02-08-05, 08:34 PM
you're right i just remember i start getting that when I installed stupid Diskeeper that messed up so many programs on my HD I had to reinstall few

MoPMatrix
02-19-05, 08:43 PM
I just started seening it in HL2 DM the last few days, I thought my OC was unstable... but maybe not! :P

medo145
02-19-05, 11:30 PM
I have diskeeper installed and have never seen that error. running WinXP Pro SP2 on system in sig. I use both IE and FF.

ripperipper
02-19-05, 11:54 PM
Have you checked for a bios update that address this issue. i have had firmware make a difference with system memory and corrupted memory

PCGUY112887
02-22-05, 07:05 AM
Interesting... I have been getting this too and I thought it was just my Windows install going stale...

Win XP SP2
Usually happens with DreamWeaver at random... before I reinstalled Dreamweaver it would happen everytime I went to 1 spot in the menu.

First thing I did was run mem tests out my wazoo... all came back 100% (it happens when running on stock too).

I have diskeeper too...

fadirocks
02-22-05, 12:17 PM
It looks like that Diskeeper affects systems differently but it seems most are getting this error if diskeeper around! in my case diskeeper did severe damage on FAT32 partition but I didn't notice any bad effects on NTFS partition maybe I didn't notice one yet

the adam
02-24-05, 04:09 AM
I'm fairly certain it happend when I was closing a game but I'm not sure which one...
Damn I wish i had your problem my closes during the middle of the game and ****es me off but im used to it now. Whats is really odd is that it never happens when dont have something to do but lets say i have homework after 10 mins it closes down... maybe its a message to do my homework? nah... probally telling me to use my time to learn all the programming languages to find a solution :bday: O the game is counterstrike and half life 2 where I see the message.

bohansen
02-25-05, 03:00 AM
i get that error whenever i try to play cs source now...

lately my computer has been super laggy and like almost freezes when i run msn messenger :(

ran adaware and things.. but nothing , have no clue whats wrong.

Computer also lags alot whenever i run programs.. or when i try to open a video or something.

Scott9027
06-19-05, 02:49 PM
No, I've never seen this error with Windows XP Home w/ SP2.

whozyodaddy
06-19-05, 08:45 PM
I'm on a old Dell Dimension 8200 (P4 1.8, 512mb ram), and got those errors alot. I contacted Dell and here is what they told me to do:

1. Click Start - Run.
2. Type "MSCONFIG", and then click OK.
3. "System Configuration Utility" screen will pop up.
4. In this window, there are three options :
a) Normal Startup.
b) Diagnostics Startup.
c) Selective Startup.
5. Please select "Selective Startup".
6. Please un-check "Load Startup Items" under "Selective Startup" and make sure everything else is checked.
7. Click "Apply" on the right bottom corner.
8. Click "Close" and restart the computer when asked.
9. Once the computer is back after restart, a message box about System Configuration Utility pops up.
10. Check the box "Don't show me this message again" and click OK.

This just stops the uneeded proccesses that load on boot.

Click on Start, then click Run,
And then type in Regedit.
And click Ok.
It will bring you to the Registry Editor window.
You have to find for the folder as
HKey_Local_Machine
And then click on the +sign.
Then find for a folder as Software.
And then click on the +sign
Then find for a folder as Microsoft.
And then click on the +sign
Then find for a folder as Windows
And then click on the +sign
Then find for a folder as Current_version
And then click on the +sign
Then find for a folder as Run
Now you have to highlight Run.
And in the right hand Pane you will see certain entries.
The first entry would be default.
You would have to delete all the entries below the default. Note: Do not delete the default.
Once you have deleted all the entries which are below the default, you could close all the windows and restart the computer.

THIS STEP is pretty much what fixed the issue. Try it for yourself and keep me updated.

Chevelle
06-20-05, 08:55 AM
I get that error with my dads machine. But not with Firefox, stupid IE. And its random too.

masterwoot
06-22-05, 12:18 AM
I've seen that error many times on at least 5 comps in the last 6 months. Usually on the crash of Half Life 2 (maybe cuz we game too much...), but I just had it on a lappy my work bought. The lappy is an Intel cpu all installed from my work--nothing my hands touched. The lappy had that error when I was trying to shut down or something simple.

Anyway, I've found the error on AMD-64, AMD socket A, Intel systems--all running windows. That's my guess at the culprit: windows. Yah, all the comps have SP2 and the latest windows updates.

gvblake22
06-24-05, 03:27 PM
I have also gotten that error but I just figured it coincided with an unstable overclock :-/

El<(')>Maxi
06-24-05, 04:43 PM
It's caused by either file corruption or conflict with another dll or ocx control trying to compete for the same memory area.

Difficult error to track down, and it's happening on a Win2000 SP4 server I use on program open. Frontpage mainly.

I would try re-installing the offending applications and possibly re-install/upgrade MDAC.

pik4chu
06-24-05, 05:21 PM
Ive gotten this error all over the place on random machines.
Programs that have been listed as causing it
NTVDM.exe*
AAIPSRVR.EXE**
svchosts.exe
run32.dll
explorer.exe
iexplore.exe
CSRSS.EXE
CTADDM.EXE
ccApp.exe
spoolsvc.exe
DefWatch.exe
Word.exe
Outlook.exe
Excel.exe
pfxEngmnt.exe
and several others I can't remember.

All have occoured ont he following OS's
Windows 2000 SP4, 2003 SP1, XP SP1 and SP2

*-This is the only one I found the cause for, cause was a bunch of idiots that were too lazy to update thier program but still claimed that it was windows 2k/xp compatable. TRhe fix was editing out a couple entries in an .ini file.
**-I know the program, and the coders are even worse than above and no chance at getting a fix, they pull the standard crap of "our software works fine, must be hardware problem" :rolleyes:
Otherwise the actual cause of these errors are unkown.

*edit* and reinstall of whatever application I may be using does not help. OS has not be reinstalled as its not really an option. I also sometimes get this error when shutting down the PC/server.

*edit2* and its not my RAM, I was concerned it was on the * system but it ran memtest for a good 4 hours w/o a single error. As did any other system and most of these are stock, name brand, intel board/CPU components, no funky stuff in sight.

dittohead
06-25-05, 08:18 PM
i get memory errors occasioanly...not on firefox though

last one was with HL2

pik4chu
06-27-05, 01:31 PM
It's not RAM failing it's one of these junk programs you've installed on system
It happened to me but i can't remember what program produced it
Check your processes before and after message box & try to find out what's crashing but it's not affecting anything so who cares just let it Error
Most of the systems dont have 'junk' programs on them. unless you refer to junk as anything that didnt come with windows....

*edit* and Ive never gotten this error in any game (including Hl2)
Its always either been during general use of some application or when shutting down the machine.