The best of SATA

[jokers_greg]

When choosing a hardrive people look at its size, cache, and connection type. Many hd manufacturers seem to have the same specs (with the exception of the WD RAPTORS at 10 000 rpm :drool: ) The question is which hd with SATA compatibility is the best. WITH the exclusion of the Raptor. If anyone has any reviews, or useful information about the hardrive that is the quickest, please post them here. Please also specify the hardrive you are using. ( remember we're talkin about regular Serial ATA drives running at 7200 rpm)

[Robrules18]

my Seagate has been excellent. Its a 80GB barracuda. Its has never lost an data, makes virtually NO noise, and is much quicker than my old 30 GB IDE drive. Couldnt give you any specific numbers however.

[jokers_greg]

sounds good, I had a Maxtor 80Gb hardrive with no problems aswell, but i think it was the reason behind all the noise in my case. Do you know the sound your barracuda produces in dba? aswell as that of my diamondmax plus9?

[OldOne]

I had two maxtor 80 gb ata 133 in raid 0 with no problems at all

[el]

no the maxtor 250 that has sataII it is the best beats the raptor!!! OMG

raid two of these and you have a 300dollar 500gig raptor.

[deRusett]

no the maxtor 250 that has sataII it is the best beats the raptor!!! OMG

raid two of these and you have a 300dollar 500gig raptor.


Anyone know if this is actually true? a Raided Pair of Dimond Max 10, 16Mb's is faster then a 74Gb Raptor?

I can get a 74Gb Raptor for 219CND or 2 200Mb 16mb Maxtors for 319CND

what would you do?

[ZenTrickz]

Anyone know if this is actually true? a Raided Pair of Dimond Max 10, 16Mb's is faster then a 74Gb Raptor?

I can get a 74Gb Raptor for 219CND or 2 200Mb 16mb Maxtors for 319CND

what would you do?


I would like more reliable info on this too if possible!

[Susquehannock]

I would like more reliable info on this too if possible!

same here. Would be nice to see some benchies. :)

SATA II utilizes NCQ (native command queing) so that may be why they said
the search times are faster.
One has to have an SATA II capable board to take advantage of this though.

[jokers_greg]

yes, lets see some numbers. Both sound good, almost too goood to be true. Please elaborate ( and someone tell me where they can get these HD's for that price here in Mississauga!!)

[warlock110]

the most important thing rite now is this, which board support the NCQ commands? lol because i can get 2 300GB 16MB for only 250 compare to a 74GB raptor that costs 180

[jokers_greg]

i dont even know what NCQ means lol. care to elaborate. Most importantly can my motherboard handle it? Can you say what the best hd is? taking into account power and value

[dark_15]

Check out SATA thread in my sig. It will explain a lot of stuff you'll need to know about SATA and at the end there is a link to the perfromance of many SATA hard drives.

[el]

there is a sticky

sata 101 may have linkage

also the chipsets that have native sata II(300mb/sec) is only nforce 4 that I know of at the moment. I don't know if the 200mb maxtor is sataII only the 250 AFAIK.

[jokers_greg]

nice, I'll check those threads out, do you have any personal favourites?

[Susquehannock]

i dont even know what NCQ means lol. care to elaborate. Most importantly can my motherboard handle it? Can you say what the best hd is? taking into account power and value

Command Queuing was originally developed for SCSI drives. And now it's
available for SATA II.
You send multiple commands to the drive, the drive "queues" them up, and
executes them in the most efficient order ("efficient" meaning - the path that
minimizes seek distance and rotational latency between each command).

Look to your Motherboard manual. If it supports NCQ it would say so
for sure.

[TimoneX]

There's a nice head to head of the DM10 vs Raptor here:

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=diamondmax10&page=1

[jokers_greg]

dm10 doesnt perform so well eh?

[TimoneX]

How did you reach that conclusion? Up against a 10k RPM drive with a cost/Gb that's 4.5x as high. I think the Maxtor DM10 and the Maxline IIIs they appear to stem from are about the best drives on the market. Particularly if you're unwilling to pay $3/Gb for a raptor.

[jokers_greg]

yea, but i mean just lookin at the concluision. the reviewer(s) didnt say it was as good

[Ad Rock]

yea, but i mean just lookin at the concluision. the reviewer(s) didnt say it was as good

He may of said it was not as good, but he did say it was damn close for a 7,200 rpm HD. He also stated its the best 7,200 rpm drive on the planet :D. The raptor will always be the exotic HD that has a minimal return on investment, however there will always be people willing to pay x3 as much money for a slight increase in performance.

[jokers_greg]

i guess so

[SantiMun]

I'd get the Diamondmax 10's cause of the 16mb buffer. BUT unless you can get a good deal like I got on a raptor 74gig: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64459&item=5163746778

THEN I would say go for the raptor :D

[TimoneX]

That's a great deal on a raptor, particularly if they're the esata models as the ad claims. Those are the ones going for $229 on newegg. I'd even be tempted at $165 shipped.

[jokers_greg]

alrite then, diamond max plus 10, here i come!

[pcgamer4life]

Basically, it comes down to this:

If you've got the money to spend, then go for a raptor if you want speed. If you're tight on money, and want to get the best bang for your buck, a 16mb/7200 drive would be fine. I doubt you'll notice $100 worth of speed in the two.

[jokers_greg]

yea, the difference isnt that big, also does the raptor run hotter and louder because of faster RPM?

[unixadm]

I've had both Raptors in RAID-0. They were not noisy at all - but did generate some heat. I now have 2 300gb Maxtor 16mb Diamondmax 10's in RAID1 and RAID0 (matrix raid) and they are working great. The drives are silent - I can't hear any disk access at all. If they remain reliable I'll be a very happy camper. Heat does not seem to be a problem either - though they have always had the intake fan blowing over them.

[Hookem]

Storage Review Maxtor MaXline III review. (http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200410/200410087B300S0-2_1.html)

Anandtech Maxtor MaXline III review. (http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2094)

[TimoneX]

Storage Review Maxtor MaXline III review. (http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200410/200410087B300S0-2_1.html)

Anandtech Maxtor MaXline III review. (http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=2094)

Right and the Maxline III and DM10 seem to be effectively the same thing with a new name.

[jstutman]

SantiMun look at your ebay winning.

You have been warned.

It come with 30 days warranty from us. +$15 more for Every 1 year Warranty from US.

Max 3 warranty years. No Factory Warranty.



KNOCKOFFS DRIVE

This is from the seller. He told me all drives are not warranty from WD. These are all drives that were purchased from A OEM vendor So the warranty from WD is null and void

BUYER BEWARE

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5164844436&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcN_BIN_Stores

Your Ebay Auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64459&item=5163746778

[jokers_greg]

that sucks man, did you file a complaint?

[SantiMun]

woah woah, wait a minute, are you guys saying i got ripped off?? Or are you just warning me that the item could be defective? I would believe that the item may have a higher chance of failing but not greatly. If most of the items the vendor sold were crap, then they would also have a crappy rating. I didnt just buy the item cause of the price, I also checked the vendors selling rating which is very good.

I still don't understand what "knockoffs drives" mean. Please tell me what you think, your starting to freak me out!! :(

[jstutman]

woah woah, wait a minute, are you guys saying i got ripped off?? Or are you just warning me that the item could be defective? I would believe that the item may have a higher chance of failing but not greatly. If most of the items the vendor sold were crap, then they would also have a crappy rating. I didnt just buy the item cause of the price, I also checked the vendors selling rating which is very good.

I still don't understand what "knockoffs drives" mean. Please tell me what you think, your starting to freak me out!! :(

Ok say e-machine wanted to build a system with these drives in it, ok well as a retail or oem drive they would come with a 3 year warranty. WELL! these are purchased in bulk, by say e-machine for example. 10,000 units so they can make these systems. So they get them for 80$ way below production cost. SO to make up for the loss of revenue. MAxtor removes all warrantys that way emachine has to warranty there product. SO if this hdd failed in the emachine, they would have to replace it not maxtor.

Thats where these drives come from, overstock from some computer vendor selling systems ( or another reseller)

[jokers_greg]

just hope, nothing will go wrong, i havent had any problems like that with ebay yet. does he give a guarranteed not DOA policy? or is it just sold as is

[SantiMun]

Well, doesnt really say anything about DOA, but I'm sure ebay has some kind of return system right? Also, I'm not too worried about the vendor, if he did sell faulty stuff he would have a bad selling record. If the only reason its cheap is cause there is no warranty then thats cool with me. But i'll run some programs on it when I do get it just to be safe.

[jokers_greg]

yea, it wont be a problem bI've never had to use a warranty on any of my HD's (all maxtor drives though, one seagate)