View Full Version : ATTN FOLDERS!! DUAL XEON's for sale cheap.
I just wanted to post this as I just got mine. This seller is selling dual 2.0 xeon IBM workstations on ebay. They come minus a HD or memory (these use ECC RDRAM) but are going cheap. I got mine for 300.00. Its in great shape and come with decent graphics cards. I would guess there off lease from an animation house as the graphics cards are not standard for desktop systems.
I could not beat 300.00 for a dully. Hopefully some of you can jump in. There are 2 more up for sale. Heres the link to one of them.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5165376351
good luck!!
9mmCensor
02-13-05, 11:32 PM
No RAM, No Harddrives.
ya. They take either scsi or ide drives. I had both the memory and harddrive sitting around so at least i'm putting them to good use now :)
Interesting...will have to rethink this...
Are they hyperthreaded?
Hmmmm, not bad for $300 though...may have to buy one.
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Mr.Furious
02-13-05, 11:52 PM
bahhhh 2.0s with only 256kb cache, no thanks. Ill stick to my 1.6s oced to 3+, well that is once my waterblocks get here :bang head
all p4 xeon's are hyperthreaded. You get to run 4 clients on it. I have a dell dully with the same chips (2.0 xeon's) and with big packets its does well. Just be careful. this is RDram (rambus) which means it needs to be installed in pairs and ECC to boot. its more expensive then DDR. but scanning ebay 256mb can be had for about 100.00
Not bad at all.
So HDD/Ram is all I need to get one of these up and running?
This might be a good PPD increasing buy.
We'll see.
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bahhhh 2.0s with only 256kb cache, no thanks. Ill stick to my 1.6s oced to 3+, well that is once my waterblocks get here :bang head
soon i might try some of the more drastic overclocks and start using water but for now i'm traveling too much and i'd rather have all my machines running when i get home :D
good job on those 1.6's !
just paint AMD on them.... we won't tell :D
Thanx, I'll bid until it goes over 375...shipping is $50
Mr.Furious
02-14-05, 12:13 AM
Yea I got 1.6 D1 steppings thank god. I will be running both at 3.2ghz stable once the rest of my parts come in. Gotta wait and see what this baby produces point wise but then it will go into server duty :burn:
veryhumid
02-14-05, 06:36 AM
wow! good find. If I wasn't trying to get my own duallie running I could have gone for a couple of those. That is an awesome deal.
Edited for a good reason..
Gasoline
02-14-05, 07:52 AM
If you're gonna run four instances of FAH on it, you're gonna need much more than 256MB. More like 512MB minimum to give the Windows o/s and the FAHs some breathing room, and likely 1GB minimum if you plan to turn on bigpackets on all four.
Also you'd probably want to drop back to Windows NT or 2000 instead of XP to save on the memory footprint size of the o/s itself.... and turn off every windows service that's not absolutely necessary.
A bare-bones Linux installation would be another o/s option to squeeze the last drops of folding performance out of this machine.
Too bad there probably isn't any overclocking capability on the IBM mobo or in the BIOS for this thing. IBM was always been about as keen on overclocking as genuine Intel mobos. I'd bet those older 2.0G Xeons would probably overclock quite nicely too. I wonder if any of those software-based overclocking utilities would work on this box?
all p4 xeon's are hyperthreaded. You get to run 4 clients on it. I have a dell dully with the same chips (2.0 xeon's) and with big packets its does well. Just be careful. this is RDram (rambus) which means it needs to be installed in pairs and ECC to boot. its more expensive then DDR. but scanning ebay 256mb can be had for about 100.00
Pardon my ignorance if Im wrong, but didnt the earlier Foster Xeons based on the Willamette core and with 256k cache come WITHOUT hyperthreading? I thought only Prestonias and Noconas had HTT.
dicecca112
02-14-05, 08:05 AM
your right david, its not just the eariler Fosters its all of them did not have it. It's only the MP that had the HT.
Also you'd probably want to drop back to Windows NT or 2000 instead of XP to save on the memory footprint size of the o/s itself.... and turn off every windows service that's not absolutely necessary.
HT dosn't play nicely with nt or 2k. you def. need xp for ht to work its best. just make sure you turn off the un-needed services
HT dosn't play nicely with nt or 2k. you def. need xp for ht to work its best. just make sure you turn off the un-needed services
the MB has 8 mem slots. I have 256 mb here. I'll peobably start bidding on some memory till I get the mem up to 512 or a gig.
dicecca112
02-14-05, 10:13 AM
HT dosn't play nicely with nt or 2k. you def. need xp for ht to work its best. just make sure you turn off the un-needed services
HT plays fine with 2k. It just doesn't recognize it as 4 cpus, only two. ANd XP Home does the same, only pro recognizes the 4 (two virtual and 2 actual.)
HT plays fine with 2k. It just doesn't recognize it as 4 cpus, only two. ANd XP Home does the same, only pro recognizes the 4 (two virtual and 2 actual.)
home recognizes the virtuals
Gasoline
02-14-05, 01:59 PM
W2K Server recognizes all four. We've got one HP ML350 with dual 2.4 HT Xeons in it at work with W2K Server SP4 as the o/s, and it shows all four cpu's under task manager.
W2K Server recognizes all four. We've got one HP ML350 with dual 2.4 HT Xeons in it at work with W2K Server SP4 as the o/s, and it shows all four cpu's under task manager.
it'll recognize it but for some odd reason it dosn't utilize them all the best. I remember there was an article illistrating how performance could actually be worse with HT on on a win2k machine
I think the only difference is that win2k doesn't realize that it's really only two processors. If you only run two processes, it's conceivable that win2k would schedule both of them on the same processor and leave the other processor idle; winXP knows about HT and would schedule each process to it's own cpu. If you're going to run 4 instances anyway, then it doesn't really matter.
Mr.Furious
02-14-05, 04:33 PM
You gotta be carefull when talking about winxp. Home wont recognize dual processors with ht but pro will.
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