Pump to go with D-Tek set up

[PCM0nk3y]

Well to start off after researching some different blocks and such I've made a decision to go with the D-Tek Whitewater CPU block 1/2in barbs. I'm also going to use the D-Tek Pro Highperformance Radiator and then the D-Tek Resevoir. I wanted to go with the Aquaextreme Pump from D-Tek but they are all sold out, so I was wondering what would be a good performing pump? Also if someone could let me know what else I all need I'd appreciate it. I know I need to pick up some tubing (should I go tygon?) my main concern is what type and how many clamps I should get, also if I need like a T-fitting or something. Thanks in advance.

I'm going to be ordering those parts from www.dtekcustoms.com

one other thing I'm going to use the Fluid XP (I know I know distilled water is just as good, but I like the idea of not having to change out the fluid every 2-3 months, plus it's non-conductive so in the case of a leak it won't hurt my system, it's more of an ease of mind than anything)

[Ancient_1]

You could get the AQX 50Z from cooltechnia or a MCP350/Laing DDC or a MCP650/Laing D4. Personally for me right now it would be a tough choice between the AQX and the DDC. I dont think any of the 3 would make a bad choice.

[-aDaM^]

Eheim 1250 , Best pump I've ever had , there just more beefy then the Swiftech's.

[PCM0nk3y]

just curious but is there an advantage of going with the quick connect fittings?

[PCM0nk3y]

Oh yeah forgot to mention I'm only going to cool my CPU for now, I'm going to leave my GPU alone for now as it idles around 36 celsius and loads around 55 celsius overclocked at 475 MHz core and 513 MHz memory (stock is 425 core and 432 memory)

[Ancient_1]

just curious but is there an advantage of going with the quick connect fittings?
On a 3/8 id system they will have less resistance than barbs since they will have a 3/8 id through the fitting.

[Vengance_01]

Eheim 1250 , Best pump I've ever had , there just more beefy then the Swiftech's. What are you talking about, the 350 smacks the 1250 in head, and 650 smacks the 1250 in head and GPH.

[Wicked Klown]

I have to agree with Vengance on this one. Having both I can assure you the D4 will stomp the 1250. Both the 350 and 650 dump less heat in to the water then the 1250 does.

[Sneaky]

the D4/MCP650 spanks any other water pump in the WC market... check out the MCP600/Aquaextreme 50z for an median between the D4 and Eheim - awesome flow & headrate, plus its quieter than the D4


but i'm very partial to the D4... in fact i have two of them in my loop... and gonna have 3 in my next loop :drool:



edit: but BTW guys, the eheim 1250 dumps only 6w of heat into the loop, the MCP600/50z dumps 9w of heat into the loop, and the D4 is at the top, dumping 15w of heat into the loop, the DDC/350 dumps 8w if i remember correctly

the more heat dumped in the loop means the more work for the radiator, but hell, any radiator can handle 15w of extra heat from the pump :)

second edit: PLEASE don't use the damn fluid XP - its a friggin' rip off, and doesnt help anything

if you use distilled water with 10% antifreeze/biocide, you won't have to change the water... hell, i'm running simply distilled water and UV dye... i dont have to change the water... nor am i going to until i build my next loop (late spring)

and distilled water doesnt conduct electricity in the first place, and just water has better thermal conductivity than any other liquid that you can use in your WC loop - its been proven, and its what i swear by :clap:

[PCM0nk3y]

would this be a good pump?

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=36&cat=4&page=1

also would that work with the D-Tek stuff? sorry if this is a noob question. 1 more question right now I"m planning on using 1/2 in tubing, is this better than 3/8?

[ZachM]

and distilled water doesnt conduct electricity in the first place

It does after you mix in those additives. ;)

[Wicked Klown]

would this be a good pump?

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=36&cat=4&page=1

also would that work with the D-Tek stuff? sorry if this is a noob question. 1 more question right now I"m planning on using 1/2 in tubing, is this better than 3/8?



Thats the 650 everyone here was talking about. DangerDen sells it under the name D4 which is the real name of it and Swiftech sells it under the name MCP650.

[Vengance_01]

Its a great pump, just picked it up a few days ago. It is a nbit loud as far as an annoying hum, but It does work quite well :D

[PCM0nk3y]

just a question but could I leave my Radiator outside my PC case? like just leave it sitting by my desk? I just don't know if I'll have enough room for a 120MM radiator in my case.

[Wicked Klown]

Yes you could leave it out side your case. Altho this will make it a bit harder to move around.You could even make an external box and place the rad and pump in it and then place the box on top or below the rig.

[PCM0nk3y]

well I'm having second thoughts on getting a Watercooling set up. I just don't know if I want to put up with all the maintenance of it.......might just stick with good ol loud Air cooling, no worrying about it spilling on my system lol.

[epidemic]

Once its set up there really isnt much maintenance to watercooling. You have to blow the dust out of your rad, but you have to do that with air anyways.

[Scar]

eheim 1250, they're nice and quiet.
and don't get a hydor, they suck big time.

[PCM0nk3y]

Just thought I'd post my set that I'll be ordering

D-Tek Whitewater CPU Block
D-Tek Pro-120 Hi Performance Radiator with shroud (unless I can get a hold of Weapon to see about getting one of his heatercores)
D-Tek 5 1/4in Bay Resevoir
7 Ft of clear tubing
10 Nylon Hose clamps
Arctic Silver 5
4 oz bottle of D-Tek's supercoolant (decided against Fluid XP)
and then I'll either be getting a Eheim 1250 pump or a D4 12V pump.

All of this will be set with 1/2 in barbs and 1/2 in tubing. All of this comes out to around $230 which I think is a pretty good price.

I have one question about the Eheim 1250 pump, since it's an AC pump, how do you power it on? Do you have a separate cord to plug into an outlet or does it somehow plug into the PSU? I'm leaning more towards the D4 because it will plug right into a 4 pin molex on my PSU. Let me know what you guys think and any changes you would suggest, Thanks.

[Sneaky]

thumbs up - go for the D4/MCP650 for the pump - it slays the Eheim in pressure/friction head (distance that water can be pumped before it stalls the pump)

the Eheim can only pump 6-8 feet, while the D4 can do 11-12+ at roughtly the same flowrate (300+ gpm), but the D4 puts out more pressure than the Eheim does


and dont get the nylon hose clamps - they suck, i hate them - i had to stick atleast 2 on each barb so it wouldn't leak - now i use the metal worm-drive clamps from the hardware store (stainless steel baby!)

and what clear tubing do you plan to use - i'm gonna give you my reccomendation of ClearFlex60 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD (1/8" wall) tubing from www.jab-tech.com (WC setion)

CF60 has bend/flex properties almost equal to that of Tygon R-3603 tubing, but much cheaper (.99/ft, or .89/ft with 10+ feet @ jab-tech)

[PCM0nk3y]

Just a quick question here, would the MCP350 be a strong enough pump for a single loop only cooling the CPU? I just read reviews that the MCP350 is quieter than the MCP650 and I'd like to be as silent as possible.

[PCM0nk3y]

Anybody know how quiet the Aquaextreme 50Z is?

[xtatdsm]

MCP350 is quieter than MCP600. and yes MCP350 will be strong enough for a single loop, MCP350 will actually be almost perfect in a 3/8 ID loop, so if you are thinking about 3/8 ID blocksm go with MCP350, and if you are thinking about 1/2 ID then go for MCP600, but if you are going for 1/2 ID and looking for super silent go with MCP350, the different between MCP350 and MCP600 in a 1/2 ID loop is very minimal, so it ends up coming down to you being willing to maybe sacrificing ~0.5C for an almost silent operation.

good luck

[PCM0nk3y]

would I need to use different barbs on the MCP350 since I"m using 1/2in tubing? or would I just put the 1/2in tubing over the 3/8in and then put a hose clamp on it (would there be a higher risk of leaking doing that?)

[xtatdsm]

would I need to use different barbs on the MCP350 since I"m using 1/2in tubing? or would I just put the 1/2in tubing over the 3/8in and then put a hose clamp on it (would there be a higher risk of leaking doing that?)



that's exactly what I did, and it worked pretty well. just make sure you use the metal clamp.

[PCM0nk3y]

Well I decided to just go with the AquaXtreme 50Z pump which I was going to do in the first place. Hopefully my stuff gets here by the end of this coming week.

[PCM0nk3y]

Just a quick question before all my stuff gets here. I ordered the D-Tek coolant along with my system (4 oz bottle) Will I pour all that into my system or like half? Also do I pour the water in first and then pour this stuff in or do I put this stuff in first or does it matter? sorry for all the n00b questions

[Sneaky]

you only need to add about 1/3 of the bottle per system fill

[PCM0nk3y]

Just thought I'd give a little update. I got my AquaXtreme 50Z, 10ft of Clearflex 60 1/2 tubing, and my 120mm Enermax fan today. Still waiting on D-Tek for the rest of my set up. I ordered my pump and fan like 2 or 3 days after I ordered my stuff from D-Tek and they beat everything else....Does D-Tek ship slower than other places?

[ctrl_alt_del_]

htey shipped my WW pretty fast... got it in about 3 days.... reg mail too