Which 6800GT? 6800GT plz help. [Archive]

bboe

02-21-05, 10:17 AM

I was looking at the eVGA one mainly due to a high number of customer reviews and they were overall high ratings, but there was a few that said the cooling was too good on that card and most of the review had installed aftermarket coolers, which I don't want to do. What I am wondering is do most users here that have a 6800gt go with aftermarket coolers and still get decent OC results?

nicknomo

02-21-05, 11:08 AM

I haven't seen any 6800gt cards overclocked (so I won't comment here)... but they all sound a bit loud at stock, which is my main concern.

I was looking at the Leadtek, since I've heard its relatively silent. Any comments on a QUIET card?

gigabit

02-21-05, 11:26 AM

Gainward's GS 6800GT if you can find one have really Good dual fan cooler

Nandro

02-21-05, 11:53 AM

From everything I have read, the gainward dual fan cooler is actually worse than the reference design.

gigabit

02-21-05, 11:57 AM

I dont see how its all copper .So it has to be better than the reference H/S but who know's
http://www.pcunleash.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=MyItemReview&no=37

jtracc20

02-21-05, 01:13 PM

check out my avatar. this is my card. dual fan, copper heatsink best stock cooling i have seen yet. see if you can find this card from BFG, i havent seen too many. check sig for overclocked speeds. also max load temps have never raised past 67. i just put AS5 on the core, so we will see how it turns out.

12am

02-21-05, 03:41 PM

Owning the gainward card myself, I will tell you that it's cooling solution is a bit sub par compared to the refrence coolers, mainly due to the fact that while it has 2 fans the 2 fans are nowhere near the core and thus doesnt pass much air over the copper gpu sink. Also I cannot even o/c my card to the speeds gainward gauruntees it to hit, this I am not sure atm if it is a bum card or if my 431w psu isn't providing enough power to run the card at ultra speeds. And seeing as gainward is no longer a company avoid the gainward card at all costs.

Kenshiro

02-21-05, 04:40 PM

From everything I have read, the gainward dual fan cooler is actually worse than the reference design.

I think the dual fan cooler you talk about is from the early releases BFG 6800 GTs.

bboe

02-21-05, 11:37 PM

jtracc20 is your BFG card AGP? And how much did you pay for it and how long ago did you buy it? Thanks!

crayzboost

02-22-05, 08:58 AM

i only put the nv silencer5 on my pny 6800gt because of its wisper quiet operation,and it took my temps down 5c at idle and 10c at load. best 25 bucks i ever spent. but dont forget to use arctic silver5.

my highest overclock was 445/1220 and a 3dmark03 score of 13,239

i keep the card @420/1150 though

jtracc20

02-22-05, 04:30 PM

jtracc20 is your BFG card AGP? And how much did you pay for it and how long ago did you buy it? Thanks!

the card is a AGP BFG 6800GT OC GDDR3 256. this card is great. comes oc to 370/1000. great cooling, temps never reached past 67 with current overclock (check sig) idle @ 51 right now, but dropping due to AS5 break in period. now with my AS5 on the core, temps have dropped on full load to 63 from 67 which is great, hoping for more. i got it about month and half ago. i got it at local future shop believe it or not, but i didnt exactly pay for it full price....if u know what i mean... :attn:

but the retail price @ futureshop here in canada, ontario is $649 canadian. they are the only ones i can see who carries this kind of cooler. i cant find this cooler anywhere else. everywhere else has the new ultra cooler on it from BFG. i think they stopped making these cards with those coolers.. if you find one, man pick it up, they are great.

**EDIT**
found a few sites..actually

Same card.
http://www.genitechcomputers.com/products/description/BFG+6800GT+OC+256MB+GDDR3+Graphics+Card/index.html

http://www.computerhq.com/BFG_Technologies_BFG_BFGR68256GTOC/products/partinfo-id-503360.html

here is a store that i usually shop at for all my parts.. best canadian prices around my area.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/video.html they have the card for $569can.

DarkPhalanx

02-22-05, 08:15 PM

Just picked one up myself. I'd like to OC it as well, but don't exactly know where to start.

mattspalace

02-22-05, 08:26 PM

I'd start at 400/1100.

Oh, I'd go BFG just because they back their product better than anyone.

DarkPhalanx

02-23-05, 09:15 AM

Thanks Matt. I was able to get my clock timings set to 400/1090, with the NV overclocking tool. Thanks. :)

Dimebag

02-23-05, 09:59 AM

On a related note, would the BFG 6800GT be the choice for pci-e as well? If I have to order online to get it I will, or will the XFX or MSI 6800GT suffice?

P.S. suffice = O/C like a mother!

Kenshiro

02-25-05, 09:13 AM

I won't recommend XFX because I think some of the owners here don't get a good o/c out of it. MSI should be pretty good too. I think it came stock with copper heatsink. MSI comes with a very good software package too.

Choose between the MSI and BFG.

gigabit

02-25-05, 12:27 PM

12am
Gainward is still making video cards so how are they not a company ?

http://www.hardinfo.dk/show.asp?desc=3247

Kenshiro

02-25-05, 12:33 PM

gainward still make video cards. They just gave up on the US market.

Sniper.nkc

02-25-05, 07:08 PM

I have absolutely no problems with my Gainward 6800 GT Golden Sample. My card stays cool at 45C core/ 30C PCB when idle at 350/1000. This video card IMHO performs better than some "others" 6800GT. Gainward warranty includes Ultra speeds (400/1100). The dual fans works great and the LED lights (2 of them) brightens under load. This is the best AGP video card I ever own. I have owned the ATI 9600 PRO and ATI AIW 9800 Pro. I speak from experience here, get the Gainward if you can find them.

DarkPhalanx

02-26-05, 03:09 PM

My BFG is 47C Core when set to the card's default setting of 370/1000. I've never even come close to overheating the core and I've gone as far as an OC of 436/1148 and only hitting 33-34C. BFG has really got their stuff together in producing a board such as this, and IMHO, their warranty is the absolute best in the industry.

_l4st_chanC3__

02-28-05, 02:51 AM

the card is a AGP BFG 6800GT OC GDDR3 256. this card is great. comes oc to 370/1000. great cooling, temps never reached past 67 with current overclock (check sig) idle @ 51 right now, but dropping due to AS5 break in period. now with my AS5 on the core, temps have dropped on full load to 63 from 67 which is great, hoping for more. i got it about month and half ago. i got it at local future shop believe it or not, but i didnt exactly pay for it full price....if u know what i mean... :attn:

but the retail price @ futureshop here in canada, ontario is $649 canadian. they are the only ones i can see who carries this kind of cooler. i cant find this cooler anywhere else. everywhere else has the new ultra cooler on it from BFG. i think they stopped making these cards with those coolers.. if you find one, man pick it up, they are great.

**EDIT**
found a few sites..actually

Same card.
http://www.genitechcomputers.com/products/description/BFG+6800GT+OC+256MB+GDDR3+Graphics+Card/index.html

http://www.computerhq.com/BFG_Technologies_BFG_BFGR68256GTOC/products/partinfo-id-503360.html

here is a store that i usually shop at for all my parts.. best canadian prices around my area.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/video.html they have the card for $569can.

got that exact same card when i was in tech school in mississippi. beautiful blue lights come out of it btw.

12am

02-28-05, 02:56 AM

12am
Gainward is still making video cards so how are they not a company ?

http://www.hardinfo.dk/show.asp?desc=3247

Sorry I thought I had read somewhere that gainward got bought out by Palit or some other euro board mfg.

gigabit

02-28-05, 03:38 AM

Sorry I thought I had read somewhere that gainward got bought out by Palit or some other euro board mfg.

LOL sorry if i came off like i was mad.Was just curious as to were you got that info? That could be true but they are still under the Gainward name.

Sancho

02-28-05, 09:17 AM

So the BFG 6800 GT is the prefered card, primarily for its warrenty/OC ability?

SlipViper

02-28-05, 09:32 AM

I have a BFG 6800GT OC 256mb...IT ROCKS! (AGP 8x, not pci-e)

I haven't overclocked it further past retail, but I will as soon as I get an Arctic-Cooling NV5 Silencer Rev 2.0. (grab one @jab-tech, $20)

The main reason I bought the BFG was warranty. Lifetime, 24/7 tech, and again, LIFETIME!!!! $399@best buy.

BFG Product Page (http://www.bfgtech.com/6800GTOC.html)

I have the newer version (above) with the 2 BlueLed 35mm fans and the all copper plate/heatpipe thingy. With my 4 fans (3case, 1cpu) turned to low, the those 2 mini fans are pretty loud, and they can't possibly move that much air. nVidia drivers say the temp is 57c idle with 65c load. (using AS5 on the GPU and the AS Cremeique 5 on the memory)

b83bandit

03-03-05, 09:58 AM

won't recommend XFX because I think some of the owners here don't get a good o/c out of it. MSI should be pretty good too. I think it came stock with copper heatsink. MSI comes with a very good software package too.

I had an XFX and OCd it to 435/1180 and it fried without any warning. I have a PNY now and it runs just fine at the same OC. :mad:

The XFX continually reach 68C or higher underload. The PNY is running at 55C under load. :D

Anjow

03-03-05, 10:01 AM

Gainward's GS 6800GT if you can find one have really Good dual fan cooler

Seconded! Due to the guaranteed overclock you're pretty much buying a 6800 Ultra for less. I've got one, and it rocks.

Only thing I'll say is it's HUGE. Blocks out 2 of my 3.5 bays.

corpsejockey

03-03-05, 04:01 PM

Kenshiro

03-03-05, 04:18 PM

spend a little more and get retail if you don't want to gamble on refurbish products.
Here's an MSI model for $368.

http://www.gameve.com/gve/Store/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=VC-MSI-0062

I think MSI O/C pretty decent.

Kenshiro

03-03-05, 04:20 PM

Here's a even better deal. $435 for an Ultra.

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190362

Milkman

03-03-05, 04:33 PM

My vote goes to the Bfg 6800gt 0c, I love mine, flashed ultra bios defaults to 400/1100 and runs like a champ, paid $399.00 2 months ago.

-Milkman

corpsejockey

03-03-05, 05:55 PM

crayzboost

03-03-05, 06:26 PM

b83bandit & crayzboost ,
I have been eyeing a PNY 6800 gt to replace my Xtasy 9600. Are you fairly satisfied? Newegg has refurbs for $310, but I hear that they are more than likely bad OC'ers that have been returned. I am new here and new to modding for that matter. I have a p4c800 with the vdroop and vdimm mod, and I need a good card for oc'ing. With my budget, I think I am set on a 6800, but I am in the same boat as bboe - which one to buy? Is it too much of a gamble on a refurb, or should I stop being a tight wad and cough up the extra $80 for a new one? it think its a good buy, i like my card it seem to OC a bit more than average and run a stable OC a bit more than avarage as well. i didnt have a choice at the time so i grabbed the pny but if i did have a choice i would have got the gainward or the bfg just because i heard they are good OCers...

but all in all im pleased with my pny i honestly didnt think it would be this good.

Jhatfie

03-03-05, 09:00 PM

Another vote for a PNY 6800GT. You can get new ones for $335 by looking around. I used pricewatch and found mine at gameve.com for $334. Clocks well past Ultra speeds. It is a good buy in my opinion.

SlipViper

03-03-05, 09:11 PM

BTW - Will I get more out of a true ultra than a BFG flashed to an ultra?

Good question, anybody have any answers for it??? and how do you go about flashing it?? any links would be helpful... :shrug:

-Milkman- how's your temps?

jchsatx09

03-03-05, 09:56 PM

Go with the BFG

crayzboost

03-03-05, 11:56 PM

Good question, anybody have any answers for it??? and how do you go about flashing it?? any links would be helpful... :shrug:

-Milkman- how's your temps?
its fairly easy to flash a gt to ultra speeds and beyond, mine runs completely stable @ 420/1150 the farthest i have gone and benched is 445/1220.. hers a how to for doing the 1.4v mod and flashing the card to run stock @400/1100 http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=801537 if you have any problems let me know..

gigabit

03-04-05, 04:53 AM

newegg has the evga 6800Gt for $380 if you can get $310 borrow $70 more and get that eVGA they are nice OCing card and its totally reference PCB then later spend $14 more dollar and get the copper H/S eVga offer's with it 2 year warranty and the 90 day step up program.I have aevga6800nu and its plenty fast 12000 in3dmark03 and 4300 in 05,My friends evga 6800GT clocks past the ultraEE speeds
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-203&depa=1

Abuddy just got a BFG 6800 GT 2 daysago and it wont OC past stock core that BFG sends the card with but the memory he can OC to around 1200 or so

Kenshiro

03-04-05, 09:42 AM

I will just go for the true ultra for $435.

corpsejockey

03-04-05, 03:19 PM

I have a good offer to buy rig #2. All proceeds will be donated to a good cause - a new evga 6800 Ultra & 19" lcd for me!
Thanks for all your help.

corpsejockey

03-09-05, 04:28 PM

I dropped the 9600 into my 2nd rig, and my friend is going to pick it up this weekend. After reading through a tone of threads, I feel a slight bit of anxiety towards buying a new card. I have seen posts debating the 6800u vs. the x800 xt-pe, and I can not separate fact from fan-boy propaganda. I do know that the x800 has slightly higher stock speeds. Which one has more overhead (which one is a better oc'er)? Budget is no longer an issue (though I would like to keep it under $500). However, if these cards are neck and neck in performance (used primarly for gaming), I can get an ultra for less. I do not mean to open a can of worms here, but I could really use some help.

Kenshiro

03-09-05, 04:47 PM

You can't go wrong with either cards.

However, if you plan to keep your "new" card for a longer period of time, and want more room to upgrade, you may want to go with the 6800U. Reason is because of SLI.

ATI is coming up with a dual vid card solution, but you will have to upgrade both your mobo and vid card again.

gigabit

03-09-05, 05:43 PM

yeah but only if its a PCI-E card im sure he wants a agp or he would have said x850xt pe and the 6800ultra im sure.But i could be wrong..lol

corpsejockey

03-09-05, 06:30 PM

yeah but only if its a PCI-E card im sure he wants a agp or he would have said x850xt pe and the 6800ultra im sure.But i could be wrong..lol

Dead on - agp.

Edit: Darn the quotes, darn them all to heck.

nightelph

03-10-05, 12:52 AM

I have a BFG 6800GT, I love it but was dissappointed that I can only get it to 420/1100 with the NV5 silencer and volt mod. Still, I've no regrets.

Kenshiro

03-10-05, 10:19 AM

I found a BFG at compusa for $399. I also found a new PNY for $319 with free shipping. I am going to sleep on it.
Thanks for the advice.

BTW - Will I get more out of a true ultra than a BFG flashed to an ultra?

I think the ultra comes with 1.6ns ram and the CT comes with 2.0ns ram. I will guess the ultra will be slightly faster. Also, I'd seen some ultras o/c beyond 450Mhz on the GPU.

kbtat2

03-12-05, 04:00 PM

I have the BFG 6800 GT and I love it. I run it at 420/1.1 and it has the stock cooler(The one with 2 fans) I also think that the one with one exposed fan are the newest revison but I may be wrong.

jtracc20

03-12-05, 04:24 PM

I have the BFG 6800 GT and I love it. I run it at 420/1.1 and it has the stock cooler(The one with 2 fans) I also think that the one with one exposed fan are the newest revison but I may be wrong.

yea the single fan one is the newer cards. but i personally like our (mine and yours) pipe cooler with the two fans. you should be able to get 1.15 out of the mem.

Milkman

03-12-05, 04:35 PM

I gotta agree with you guys, I love mine aswell, been a great card and flashed to ultra specs no problem:)

-Milkman

jtracc20

03-12-05, 06:34 PM

I gotta agree with you guys, I love mine aswell, been a great card and flashed to ultra specs no problem:)

-Milkman

oh man!! i tried flashing to 1.4v. man that didnt work, just went all crazy on me. milk man, can you email me the bios you used?

jonathan_tracc21@sympatico.ca

Milkman

03-12-05, 07:04 PM

I sure will, let me get it from omni extreme edit and I will send it, I am running it at 1.3volts and you are right 1.4v caused issues, need better cooling and then it would be fine:)

-Milkman

jtracc20

03-12-05, 10:33 PM

okay milkman, i got your file, flashed and well its still says 6800GT. stock was 400/1100 but still says 6800Gt. does your say ultra? odd..

phistyle

03-20-05, 10:14 PM

gigabit

03-21-05, 06:42 AM

I have the BFG 6800 GT and I love it. I run it at 420/1.1 and it has the stock cooler(The one with 2 fans) I also think that the one with one exposed fan are the newest revison but I may be wrong.
yep your wrong ..lol thats frist run of cards but soon after they came out with a the dual fan cooler.But i dont know why they didnt come with them frist off since they already had them for the fx5900/5950.I had a 5900 with the same H/S sink and it idled 39c aand never went over 50c even after flashing it with a 5950 bios.I believe that is one of the best stock heat sinks out

Pny v6800Gt for $319 with free shippimg and he need to sleep on it .Dam i wish i had seen that when i got my 6800nu.