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[Archer36]

Well I started making an external box that turned out like this:
http://66.227.243.245:1877/box/done.jpg
I Liked it, all in a toolbox but I guess my system did not. As soon as I was going to put the block on it leaked, all over my 9500 PRO. So I put back on the crappy INTEL HSF and there was video distortion even though I cleaned up the water. SO i let it soak over night in alcohol and now it works. So with that mishap that was it for me, no more WC for a long time. 24 hours later, and I MISS WATER, I hate the temps, even though my motherboared is screwed up and says im idling with a temp of 23 on air :beer: sure.... So now that external did not work I want to put it all back in my case however last time which looked like this:
http://66.227.243.245:1877/prolientbuild/overall.jpg
However I did not like that configuration, it took up my area for my CDRW and with a case this huge:
http://66.227.243.245:1877/prolientbuild/lolsmall.jpg
I know there is a better way, but i can not think of it. So all of you smart people can help me, what would you do if this monster was yours?

Thanks

[Ven0m]

My vote goes for heatercore placed horizontally at top of case + longer tubing.

[MameXP]

My vote goes for heatercore placed horizontally at top of case + longer tubing.

what he said. Gee i think its really easy.

[Archer36]

Where would I place the pump?

[w88]

This is what i did ,,mounted heater core or rad on top and pump on bottom,it works really well.:)

[man_utd]

This is what i did ,,mounted heater core or rad on top and pump on bottom,it works really well.:)

WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!

[Ven0m]

These pics look pretty good. You can also put radiator inside case (near top) for more aesthetics, if you find speace for it.

[thorilan]

i dont recomend mount heater cores at the top nor horizontaly

since you have an external box you can place the core on its side and have the and have the input at the bottom and the output at the top ( since you have a 2 pass).

you should generaly have the pump at the lowest part of the loop and rotate the axis of the pump 90 degrees so that the intake is on the top and the output is on the side . ESPECIALLY with Hydor pumps.


i honestly would have 2 T lines in the loop or make an air trap also since oyu have ample space.

let me try and draw something up( am at work but dont think i will get in trouble )

[Archer36]

let me try and draw something up( am at work but dont think i will get in trouble )
:clap: thanks, yea, I liked the idea of External, but it would take a lot of tubing it get it down to my CPU and i dont know how much my little hydor can take. If I set it next to the case.... well that is what made the last leak. I just dont know of a good way to get the tubes to come into the case and make a nice bend. Here is what the back of the case looks like, the 120mm gril is where the CPU is located vert I am at some point going to cut that out for better flow, maybe run the tubes in though there?

http://66.227.243.245:1877/prolientbuild/back.jpg

[thorilan]

ok this is how a external box should look .

this facilitates bleeding and keeping air out of the pump.

the reason you mount the core on its side is so that any air that enters through the bottem goes with the flow of water to be pushed out the top

[Archer36]

Ok so I should have it sucking water though my HC, the only problem with my External is the stupid pump is so freakin lound it viabrates on the toolbox.

[sunrunner20]

i dont recomend mount heater cores at the top nor horizontaly

whats wrong with horizontal?

[MameXP]

I think he means its just harder to bleed. LOL thats not a problem if you know how...
(hint* turn the case over LOL :D )

In Thorilan drawing, the pump is pushing the water into the hc not sucking....

External or internal depends on how you want the looks of your comp. To be honest, that external would look too ghetto and its inconvient if you want to move your comp (seeing its a HUGE tower).

I highly recommend internal setup. Here is how you can do it:

THere is 2 options, sucking air or pusing air thro the top. I think pushing air will give you a clean look outside, easier to mount the HC as well.

For pushing air: Make 2 x 120mm blowholes with jigsaw or dremel or hole saw. Intall 2 fans and the HC with a long thread rod. Dont forget some fan drills and door trim to make it looks nice.

For sucking air: Cut a rectangle with the dimension of the fins area of the HC. Intall the HC by slide a HC in the cut area, you will have about 1-2 cm of the fins area show up on the top of your case. Then underneat, you can think of a way to mount the hc on the. (be creative) . 2 fans will be underneat the HC sucking air in. (i'm not good at explaining but you can imagine cant you? )

In both case you will lose 3 CD bays, but since your case has so many of them, it would be fine right?

The pump will be at the bottom of the case pushing water up to the HC and get the water from your home-made res ( i saw it in your avatar).

The first thing you need to do now is to impeller mod your pump to quite it. You must use some foam to absorb the rattling force.

I can image you will have a VERY nice and CLEAN setup, I personally will then go and install wheels on the case so it can easily move it.
Hope this helps,

[Archer36]

Well it only has 3 bays the rest is a huge gap for 3 SCSI drives that i remove, I could put them back in there as seen:

http://66.227.243.245:1877/prolientbuild/front.jpg

But I always have a tubing issue (to tight of a bend on WB), maybe if flip the HC upside down? Also that res is no more, it was too short made a vortex.

http://66.227.243.245:1877/prolientbuild/res.jpg

Still have yet to use it, oversized barbs for increased flow. maybe I can work it in somewhere to help tube bed problems, ill give it a good night to swirl around in my head while I sleep. So ill proabably be working on it very soon.

[MameXP]

Hey i dont understand why its too tight. What kind of tubing do you have?

I've done the exactly HC on top with fans pushing air out. And i think it the best mounting for this HC. Beside with your homemade res, i think it will look very best.

Your case is taller and biger than my case , there will be no problem with tubing at all. Trust me, i'm a watercooling freak lol

[Archer36]

Hey i dont understand why its too tight. What kind of tubing do you have?

I've done the exactly HC on top with fans pushing air out. And i think it the best mounting for this HC. Beside with your homemade res, i think it will look very best.

Your case is taller and biger than my case , there will be no problem with tubing at all. Trust me, i'm a watercooling freak lol Yea I know you are, ive seen your advice to others very helpful. Im using clearflex 60, for the most part I have crappy Lowes stuff if need be, but I can always order more. I need to find a 4 1/2 hole saw first and a good clamp to hold the case down The side and the Top are one, the pannel on the left is alone for access for internals of system, so It could be tricky to take off side if I needed to get access to my wiring (stuffed it all behind motherboard).

[MameXP]

Yea I know you are, ive seen your advice to others very helpful. Im using clearflex 60, for the most part I have crappy Lowes stuff if need be, but I can always order more. I need to find a 4 1/2 hole saw first and a good clamp to hold the case down The side and the Top are one, the pannel on the left is alone for access for internals of system, so It could be tricky to take off side if I needed to get access to my wiring (stuffed it all behind motherboard).

You can do all the wiring b4 intalling the wc. Just have the HC with fans mounted on the top ready to be installed, then bleed and leak testing it with every in place except mounting the waterblocks on the motherboard. Use paper tower to wrap around all the joins to indicate leaking.

[voigts]

I tried something different and it works great. I just built a box out of wood that bolts onto the back of my case. I have a Swifty 676 on that setup, but am in the middle of replacing it with a dual heatercore with the same type of setup.

[Archer36]

I tried something different and it works great. I just built a box out of wood that bolts onto the back of my case. I have a Swifty 676 on that setup, but am in the middle of replacing it with a dual heatercore with the same type of setup. I have never seen anyone do that before, nice.

[pwnt by pat]

make feet and put it on the bottem of the case...

[Archer36]

make feet and put it on the bottem of the case... AHHH, the case does have large feet, but im not sure how much it raises it up. Would I draw air though the core? If I was to do that?

[pwnt by pat]

Yeah, have fans pull air through the core. If you cut a hole just large enough for the fins then the fins will sit down and the rad will rest on it's tanks.

[Archer36]

Yeah, have fans pull air through the core. If you cut a hole just large enough for the fins then the fins will sit down and the rad will rest on it's tanks. Yea ill think about that, but I may have a different way of doing it and should not reqire any big holes, but we will see.

[Archer36]

Here is What I want to do:

[Archer36]

Well after 8 long hours of trying things that end all in crap and leaking, im DONE! Leak testing all night and will be using it tomarrow.

http://66.227.243.245:1877/prolientbuild/AHHHH.jpg

[inkfx]

Did you get the cap for that T-line online or from a local store? If it was online can you link me because I need to find one for my to be w/c setup. :D

[Archer36]

Yes, sort of. what it is a Male garden hose thread to a 1/2 ID tubing adapter, with a hose cap on it. not sure of the correct name, got it a long time ago.