dont like winxp sp2? too bad, take it anyway!

[Overclocker550]

http://www.driverheaven.net/showthread.php?p=564343

[Sentential]

:-/ Good thing im on a p4 now. That issue doesnt plage me like I used to

[threeme2189]

damn...this is gonna suxxx...i dont like sp2 one bit...

[telexen]

*sigh*

Fools and poor reporting don't mix well

MS is NOT forcing SP2 on you. The ONLY thing they are doing is taking away the tool that keeps it off Automatic Updates.

So the very simple solution...and something you should probably be doing anyway...is don't use Automatic Updates!!!

Either way...I've had no issues with SP2 on many systems. Any claims that it is slower are unfounded and false.

[Overclocker550]

damn...this is gonna suxxx...i dont like sp2 one bit...



you are going to want to upgrade to win2k then, too many reasons to list.....

[TollhouseFrank]

SP2 is actually quite good. I've found it to be VERY stable and VERY fast. If ya don't like the firewall/protection center, you can turn it off with a quick Start-Run-services.msc

The only time i found SP2 to be unstable was installing it seperately from a clean install. I mean, instead of slipstreaming it into the WinXP CD, installing it straight up onto a non SP2 machine.

[KfistoRok]

I heard that you just wouldn't be able to do future updates if you did not get sp2. That was my understanding.

[TollhouseFrank]

it pretty much says so on the Microsoft Update Site. (when you go to manually update windows)

[Andyman902042]

In response to requests from businesses, Microsoft last year released a tool that allowed companies to continue using the automatic update feature but temporarily block the security-oriented update from downloading...

...Microsoft first released the SP2-blocking tool in August, saying it would allow customers to put off the upgrade for 120 days. In September, Microsoft said it would double the length of time, to 240 days, to give businesses more time to test the software...

...The move affects only those who use Windows' automatic update to connect directly to Microsoft servers. Some businesses have reconfigured the automatic update feature to connect to their own corporate update servers. Those companies can continue to push out updates to their own schedule.

-Andy

[rebelwarlock]

if you really want to be sure that you never get sp2, install linux on another partition and use lilo as the boot program. no service pack will install if the boot program isn't from microsoft. gotta love linux, it even makes windows better :D

[threeme2189]

ohh well il try installing it AGAIN (3rd time) and see if i can turn the security center crap off...

[Skeen]

KfistoRok & Tollhousefrank - The WU site says "Windows XP users: new security updates are now available for SP1 and SP2 only".

I took that to mean that you must have at least SP1 to get updates.

Sentential wrote: "Good thing im on a p4 now. That issue doesnt plage me like I used to" :confused: :shrug:

[deathman20]

First thing I do after I install SP2, byebye security center. Otherwise its fast, stable, and zero issue. Hell I don't think I've even crashed XP since I upgraded to SP2 on both my systems.

[Andyman902042]

if you really want to be sure that you never get sp2, install linux on another partition and use lilo as the boot program. no service pack will install if the boot program isn't from microsoft. gotta love linux, it even makes windows better :D

What does that have to do with anything? SP2 installed just fine on my dual-boot. The boot loader goes on the MBR (master boot record) of the harddrive. AFAIK The windows boot loader (NTLDR) is initiated by the boot sector of the windows partition.(bios executes the boot program on the MBR > which exeuctes the boot sector of the selected partition>which loads the program that starts the windows XP/2000 starup routine (NTLDR).

-Andy

[rebelwarlock]

What does that have to do with anything? SP2 installed just fine on my dual-boot. The boot loader goes on the MBR (master boot record) of the harddrive. AFAIK The windows boot loader (NTLDR) is initiated by the boot sector of the windows partition.(bios executes the boot program on the MBR > which exeuctes the boot sector of the selected partition>which loads the program that starts the windows XP/2000 starup routine (NTLDR).

-Andy

try having dual boot with no service pack at all, then upgrade to sp1. it wont work.

[Quailane]

I hate SP2. It takes way too long to load. I reformated the comp and it is on sp1 now. Windows 2000 pro is cool too untill I install all the service and security packs that make it slower than a geriatric turtle race.

[dark_15]

Odd... all my windows XP SP2 installs went without a single hitch... some were slipstreamed while others were patched. My only pet peeve is the security center (its annoying little security 'warnings' :rolleyes: ), but with a few registry hacks, I don't have any problems.

[the adam]

i have beem putting off the sp2 update. Since I heard it causes problems on the A64 systems.

[Overclocker550]

Thats why you may want to upgrade to win2k since M$ is now forcing winxp owners to get sp2 and this clashes with a64s :(

[the adam]

i thought i could just turn off auto updates? O well i do have a copy of win2k around here somewhere. :)

[Oni]

See, I just avoid all of this by running Win2k. :)

Moved to MSOS

[tenchi86]

I have only good excpirences with SP2 its easy to turn off security center. You can even just go click on it and tell it not to moniter your stuff. Any way i kind of dont blame MS for this. People always complaining windows got a viruses and its MSes fault when really MS has a update that would of fixed the flaw.

[CrystalMethod]

Just a little bit of an update...

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2aumng.mspx

IMO there's no good reason you shouldn't have it if you're runnig a legit version of XP.

[AEsnowboarding]

Thats why you may want to upgrade to win2k since M$ is now forcing winxp owners to get sp2 and this clashes with a64s :(

Clashes with A64's???
:rolleyes: Wow I have heard you say a lot of weird things on this forum but this is nuts.

[Enablingwolf]

I got my 754 rig with a new copy of XPw/SP2. Works really good. I am not fond of certain items that SP2 gives. That is a pet peeve that I rectify soon after install.
No A64/SP2 issues that I can locate. If there is what are they? My last 462 rig was really stable under SP2.

[LtBlue14]

If you didn't understand what Telexen and Andy were getting at, MICROSOFT IS NOT FORCING THIS ON YOU, they're simply putting it on the automatic updates list for people who use that!

[Binman_UK]

No A64/SP2 issues that I can locate. If there is what are they?

Windowblinds makes my display settings go crazy now I've got SP2 installed...and Sygate Antivirus doesn't work with my A64 + SP2 (although this may be a problem in all versions of Windows XP w/ A64..I dunno).

The security centre thing is a pain, but I've had no major issues (apart from the above) with SP2 since installing it. With 95/98/ME, I used to have to reinstall every 4-6 months, but I don't have to do that now - as far as I'm concerned M$ has created a pretty decent end product for once.

Binny.

[makaka]

sp 2 is a piece of crap
i had winxp sp1 in my system,win2000+sp4,and redhot linux.
installed sp2 and hello probleme (bleu screen, irq not less or equal)explorer hung up....
a clean format of winxp +sp1 get me back to the full stablity

[I.M.O.G.]

No one is being forced to do anything. Those who have no idea what automatic updates does in the background, will be receiving SP2.

Everyone who runs automatic updates SHOULD have this installed for them. Those are the people who don't know better than to avoid risky things that might get them viruses or compromise their machine.

Anyone who is serious about their computer, should be installing updates manually, one at a time. This allows for the updated to be tested, and for a single individual update to be accepted or rejected on the basis of how nice it plays on your software configuration.

And what companies use automatic updates!?!?! Ok, I can see small ones perhaps, but I can't see any big or major company using automatic updates, the lack of regulation there could wreak havoc! This article has little or nothing to do with most non-mom and pop companies, as these companies will be running their own update server, and deploying updates themselves after they have been tested sufficiently.

Windowblinds makes my display settings go crazy now I've got SP2 installed...and Sygate Antivirus doesn't work with my A64 + SP2 (although this may be a problem in all versions of Windows XP w/ A64..I dunno).

Windowblinds is junk software though - if it doesn't work right with a security update, its the junk software's fault, and probably not the fault of the security update.

As for the AV and firewall, you should make sure you disabled the built in firewall if you are using sygate's, and it might even be a good idea to reinstall sygate after SP2 is applied.

[Lan_Of_Malkier]

.......wow......Gettin kinda stuffy in here.

I have never had an issue with it. Security center is easy as pie to rid yourself of, without jacking your Registry.
If you don't like the fact that M$ is forcing the SP2, then Use Linux.

When/If you Bought Windows, you agreed to use their Software under the Terms of the EULA. If you don't read it, then it's your own damn fault for not knowing what is coming. M$ Support is getting tired of handling issues related to security issues, and it is within their rights to upgrade at will to take care of them. Be that as it may, probley a full 85% of Windows users have no idea, nor want one. They Just want their PC's to work.

Control Your own destiny....