I need help in shoping for water cooling parts

[Mr. $T$]

Air will not work so I need some help in choosing parts for water cooling.

Do you need a raditor if so what size?

I heard under ground electrical boxes work for a storage what is a good size?

I am going to buy a water block looking to swif good or bad?

What is a good gph for a pump looking to about 100 - 70.


If any body has a horror / success story anything could help. I plan on taking a 1.2 @ 1440 :cool: :eek: :rolleyes: :D

[Warlord2]

any heater core will work just make sure you have a fan on it
I also just bought a transmission cooler new for $35 at a audo shop and those should work just as well (havent tryed mine yet)



a Rio pump is good and quiet pump but Im not using one so I cant give you a model. you will want a gph of atleast 150

I am using a 6x6x6 electrical box and it works great (make sure you have room for one)

as for water blocks I would get a Maze2

[Yoric]

petsmart has a danner mag drive 1.5 pump for $21 USD
look under fish water pumps

the danner website says it can lift up to 4 ft

also since it is mag-drive supposedly it is quieter than some other types

It is what I am getting

[Quizno]

Originally posted by Yoric
also since it is mag-drive supposedly it is quieter than some other types



its not. in fact, its quite noisy(although i havent tried any other pumps). makes a kind of rattle noise....not as noisy as a fan, but this pump is by no means silent(like i hear about other pumps out there).

still much quieter than my air setup was though.

EDIT: as far as actual water pumping goes though, its great. ive had it running close to 24/7 for the last 1.5 years now...and its still working fine.

[fuzzba11]

I'm getting the Rio 600 model...has 1/2" fittings, but you can adapt that...something like 200 gph. Only cost me $16, just search for one(another good way is look on ebay for submerseable pumps)

[Ice Czar]

http://www.borderbuyer.com/fixittt/water_block_project.htm

SPIR@L

[Pablissimo]

Originally posted by Ice Czar
http://www.borderbuyer.com/fixittt/water_block_project.htm

SPIR@L

They yours? How much do they cost to make?

[Ice Czar]

Originally posted by Pablissimo


They yours? How much do they cost to make?

NO, but they are made by Fixittt
And they are some of the best HIGHFLOW blocks around, I was an early booster of them before they had actually hit the market and so have the #2 production block. ;)

You need a highflow pump to take full advantage of them, and they come with 1\2" barbs and channel. They are now sold through dteck? check the link, and should be about $50? Youd have to check with dtek or fixittt.

The 3 highest performance blocks that I currently know about are, (and how they acomplish this, design wise)

LardArse's "C" Block, (hes in Singapore) and made a series of them at a friends shop,
http://thehand78.tripod.com/blockmake.htm
They have a very thin base (+1mm) and an extreamly high flow rate with a very rough interior finish, which aids in turbulent flow heat transfer, but not alot of interface (read surface area for transfer) these blocks beat the Maze2 by a degree or two.

The Maze 2 which has a lower flowrate but high turblence\heat transfer and good interface, the water having to slam through the channels corners. I dont know the base thickness.

And the Spir@l which has a Very high flowrate with initial turbulence directly over the core chamber and the largest interface. Base 1\16" thick.

All these blocks arrive at comparitable performance with slightly differing strtegies, however, the "C" youd have to make yourself, the Maze2 will "choke" your flowrate IF... you opt for an even higher flowrate.

Process of elimination...Spir@L
Head to head competions between the Maze2 and the Spir@l are currently in the works, but its likely that they will be screwed up.

To wit, "fair" testing dictates that identical systems are employed with the only variable being the component tested. But these are no longer "fair" tests when the compents employ different flowrates to be optimized, its the balance between all your components that becomes important especially when the "difference" is a degree or four. Your total system then comes into play, what is the "choke" (loss of head) of your radiator (or bongs which have very little choke, but loss of head through elevation ) Whats the pumps capacity, number of corners and constriction (venturi flowmeter, ect) in the water circut, elevation changes and total tube length. All these factors have an impact on the performance of the water to transfer the heat.

There also maybe a waiting list for the Spir@l youd have to chek with dtek, but probably not the Maze2 which is at dangerden?, another consideration.

[Hoot]

I gotta say that Spiral is the neatest water block I have ever seen. I am tempted to copy it as I am now putting together the parts for water cooling. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a professional mill, just my Craftsman drill press and an x-y table. Kind of a poor mans mill.

[Warlord2]

me wants one:(


maybe when I get a drill press I will make a couple of those

[Ice Czar]

With a minimal amount of skill, a drill press and a chunk O copper, the "C" design is a very effective solution, note the 5\8" intake and the dual exhaust ports. I just got myself a good drill press (used) and Im picking it up today :D :D :D
But Ive already got a Spir@l, however I plan on waterblocks for 6 HDDs that make up my RAID.

If youll explore the Spir@l link, youll note a few destroyed copper blocks, that design can be done without a CNC or standard mill, but its not easy, fixittt wasted quite a few trying to get it right and hes a pro. Considering the cost of the copper, and the drill bit wastage :p the $50 or so that he charges really has a slim to no profit margin, he developed them for all us [H]ardCores and started distributing them there. The soon where picked up by dtek and he had more orders than he could handle.

His grandpa fronted him the dough for a small CNC, and he's been tryin to fill the backorders ever since. But the is quite a demand.