How hot is to Hot...

[WyrmMaster]

...when measured by a compunurse or similar probe. I know most people say keep it under 50c or 55c, but most people use the on-board thermistor. My compunurse currently reads 55.7 at the edge of the core. My on-board thermistor says its only 43c though. So if i wasnt using the compunurse i would think i am ok, and so would everyone else who has my setup.

[Superman53142]

Do you have any problems (hard lockups, BSOD's, whatever)? If you don't, I wouldn't worry.

[WyrmMaster]

No, its perfectly stable, even at higher temps, into the 60's even. Im just wondering what the standard 55c is hot enough # comes from, the motherboard sensor or a real sensor

[LinkStatic]

Have u tried MBM 5( mother board monitor )? Its pretty accurate, having the same reading as that of Via's Hardware Monitor that came with my Iwill mobo.

I used it on a friends PC with an ASUS A7V133. He's temps are at 60oC and on MBM 5 its only at 50oC. This is true since I've read from other forum members that the ASUS Probe reads 10oC higher...( which maybe the case with your CompuNurse )....

MBM 5 (http://mbm.livewiredev.com)

[WyrmMaster]

I use MBM5, thats how i got the temp from the board thermistor. My compunurse is definitly more accurate though, as its an external probe that actualy touches the core, not just a thermistor in the secondary heatpath.

On a sidenote, all monitor software should be equally precise because they all just display the info they are given by the mobo, even if its wrong.

[asmodean]

Originally posted by WyrmMaster
On a sidenote, all monitor software should be equally precise because they all just display the info they are given by the mobo, even if its wrong.

Except they aren't. I've seen rougle 2C variations when comparing Hardware Sensors Monitor and MBM5. HSM showing higher temps. Same goes for the fan speeds, they seem to vary in every program I've tried. :(

[[OC]Lucifer]

My idle temps are around 50c.. but I dont get and lockups or anything at 950.. So I think its ok. I have a FOP38 with a mega-fast SVC fan sucking off it, and an 80mm exhaust fan sucking the heat sucked off by the SVc. Works pretty good, all told. In benches it'll eat a p4 1.2 for lunch, by quite a bit.

[WyrmMaster]

Originally posted by [OC]Lucifer
My idle temps are around 50c.. but I dont get and lockups or anything at 950.. So I think its ok. I have a FOP38 with a mega-fast SVC fan sucking off it, and an 80mm exhaust fan sucking the heat sucked off by the SVc. Works pretty good, all told. In benches it'll eat a p4 1.2 for lunch, by quite a bit.

But my point is, how do you get that temp #. MBM or an external probe. If that is a MBM temp then you are actually idleing around 60 probably, maybe more. Which brings me back to my original question. When people say "keep it under 50 and your safe" do they mean core temp of 50, or MBM temp of 50.

[[OC]Lucifer]

Originally posted by WyrmMaster


But my point is, how do you get that temp #. MBM or an external probe. If that is a MBM temp then you are actually idleing around 60 probably, maybe more. Which brings me back to my original question. When people say "keep it under 50 and your safe" do they mean core temp of 50, or MBM temp of 50.

-Well, I get my temps from MBM 5.09, which Im told is the most accurate of software hardware monitors. Its says I idle at 45c, and load at 50c. I have no idea if its right, but it isnt hot too the touch, just warm, so I think it may be a close estimate or even a tad generous. And Id rather err on that side of things. Also, the fact that my chip is so stable says that it is most likely not running extremely hot. But I can only go on this anecdotal evidence until I can afford to buy a digital doc :)

[killem1x1]

I have been going by the fact that if it's stable running "hard" benches and burnins then you should be fine. I mean, the "keep it under 50" is a good rule of thumb for people, but stability is what we are after. The only drawback I can see is the "lifespan", because the higher temps - the shorter life, but who wants to keep a chip running for 10 years;)

[Mr.Lansing]

Anything Over 50C is kinda too hot!
but won't cause it to burn yet!

[Tomas]

Originally posted by Mr.Lansing
Anything Over 50C is kinda too hot!
but won't cause it to burn yet!

Nah it aint.... I would say anything over 60c is hot.

Try cooling a tbird 1.4g and i think u will change your mind. Cant be cooled under 50c load if you dont buy some REALLY expensive cooling like chilled water cooling. As long as the load temps are under 60c it should be fine.........