MONSTER XPHP C1, is it worth it?

[magick_man]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=4223977&type=product&productCategoryId=cat08055&id=1051384781386
is the stuff i am talking about, a friend of my friend works at bestbuy and he can get the 100 foot rolls for like 50 bucks.
my friend got one to go with his new infinity alphas he got and he and i both could hear a noticable difference in the sound (but he was upgrading from el-cheapo 18 ga cable)
so what i am wondering is, is it worth it to spend the money for it?
if it is worth it, then maybe i will just get some of this stuff for my front 3 speakers
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14966&item=5758154285&rd=1
2 bux a foot isnt too horrible if it is as good as they say it is.
and it looks so cool on top of that :)

so what do yall folks think.....

~Magick_Man~

[speed bump]

Well depends on the speakers and amplifiers your using as to whether or not it will make a difference.

I know that for longer cable runs Monster cable apparently has a low signal to noise ratio for longer runs.

My opinion would be that if you've got the money thats a pretty good price and you should go for it.

[consumer9000]

I'm a big fan of the Monster Cable XPHP CL in wall rated speaker wire. So much so that I have purchased 3 100' BiggieSpool rolls of it in the last year for various installation jobs. The sound quality it delivers, especially over longer runs is superior to cheaper in wall wire, and it looks slick and doesn't snag. Though on the pricey side, it's a bargain as premium wire goes and I couldn't recommend it more highly. Just remember to terminate it with high quality Monster bananna plugs etc. :)

[magick_man]

well i am using a ONKYO TX-SR502 reciever
infinity PRIMUS C25 center
yamaha NS-6490 3 way bookshelf's in front
some pioneer dual 4" rear center
and some craptacular aiwa rear speakers that i need to replace.

right now i am using rca 16 awg cable for all speakers
so i was thinking i could get that monster Z1 for front speakers http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14966&item=5758154285&rd=1
some of this stuff for the center http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14966&item=5758377195
and keep the rca i am using for the rears.
that would run about 70-75 plus banana plugs for the front 3 cables. so that isnt too bad.

so who knows i might go ahead and do that.
and ofcourse i have to get something better than what my friend has :)

~Magick_Man~

[magick_man]

i dont want to get those monster banana plugs bc they are too expensive like 20 for 2 pairs, and i need atleast 4 pairs now to hook up for the front.
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=091-1260
i was looking at those and they seem pretty good, should they work?

~Magick_Man~

[consumer9000]

I'm running a Denon AVR3803 Reciever (110x7) and an Infinity Entra 1 7.1 surroud setup. The equipment certainly justifies the cable. I had been using cheap 16 guage cable temporarily while setting things up and the difference is actually percievable (which is rare usually). :thup:

As for the bannana plugs I hit up eBay and also purchased a number of Monster Cable speaker wire sleeves. Let me snap a picture of the setup I have powering my Klipsch Promedia 5.1 Ultras...brb. :cool:

[Prodigious]

I can only laugh at this. That's all I can say. This debate has been done over a million times. There is no noticable difference between premium and regular speaker cables unless the cheap wires are below spec for some reason. If you understand electronics, audio, and a little physics, its easy to see why.

That "percieved" difference is psychological, and it has been proven. In a double blind test( listening to something then upgrading to what you think is better and testing again is the worst thing you can do), Even an audiophile cannot detect the difference unless there is really something wrong with the cables.

It doesnt matter if you're using a 150 dollar rca boombox or 20,000 dollar krell amps with some nautilus speakers. You won't tell the difference except for "feeling" that it sounds better because you need to rationalize wasting a hundred bucks on wires that perform acoustically the same to lamp cord(which works amazingly well as a speaker wire).

Don't waste your money.

Expensive equipment does not justify overpriced cables.

[consumer9000]

Yes, it is true that humans have very poor aural memory, and unless the wire is severely under spec most listeners will not be able to discern a difference in a double blind test. However, the reason I value this particular speaker wire more than others is it's UL C1 in wall rating. The slick jacketing and helical wind make routing it through conduits and in wall setups a breeze, and the presentation remains good when it finally does break out of the wall. Additionally, it is a fact that lower guage, pure copper wire loses less signal per meter than a lower quality cable, and that on a high powered multichannel setup, such quality deficits can lead to distracting differences in volume and timing delays. :bang head

[magick_man]

Let me snap a picture of the setup I have powering my Klipsch Promedia 5.1 Ultras...brb.


hey man what happened to those pics you promised :)

~Magick_Man~