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Graphicism
03-24-05, 11:45 AM
I am trying to 'backup' DVDs and it is taking forever! It starts off about 3x and finished around 6x on a 16x burner? I read on the DVD Shrink guide 'Encoding takes around 20 to 45 minutes depending on I/O and speed of computer.' - and I looked at my process while it was encoding, and it doesn't go past 4%
I have also tried this on my other DVD burner which is a Sony, it stars out about 3.6x and finished at 6x ~ so this is a little faster, but still very slow... Pioneer I heard was one of the best.
Any idea how I can speed this up? What is I/O and is there a better SMP encoder?
I know this is a silly question, but are you using 16x media. Also, DVDShrink uses Nero for the burning process. Are you having problems with nero?
Know Nuttin
03-24-05, 12:25 PM
is that 3x-6x ripping speed? it may be an issue with the drive and the media it is reading, the drive may not be able to read the disks faster than that.
Graphicism
03-24-05, 12:29 PM
The Media is retail DVDs that I believe are dual layer? The guide says it depends on the speed of your computer... therefore with the cpu using 2%, something isn't right.
Graphicism
03-24-05, 12:30 PM
The Media is retail DVDs that I believe are dual layer? The guide says it depends on the speed of your computer... therefore with the cpu using 2%, something isn't right.
is that 3x-6x ripping speed? it may be an issue with the drive and the media it is reading, the drive may not be able to read the disks faster than that.
Yeah it's ripping at 3x, then speeds up to 6x before it finishes. I heard Pioneer was the best/fastest one available, but my Sony is faster than it.. so I am thinking something is missing.
Are you talking about the ripping stage or the burning stage? When you said media were you talking about blank disks or the ones you were ripping?
Graphicism
03-24-05, 12:34 PM
Are you talking about the ripping stage or the burning stage?
Ripping (encoding) - Getting the data off the disc and onto the hard drive.
Know Nuttin
03-24-05, 01:11 PM
have you updated the firmware on your drive?
are you using an ATA100 cable?
Graphicism
03-24-05, 01:24 PM
Yes I have updated the firmware.
I am using a standard IDE cable.
ripping is not something that will be done at the speed your burner can burn. Especially if there are scratches and stuff on the disk you are backing up.
Know Nuttin
03-24-05, 02:07 PM
you can try to find a hacked firmware which may have a riplock disable to enable faster ripping. I know with my BenQ, there was mediaspeedcode edit, which enabled faster reading and ripping.
{PMS}fishy
03-24-05, 04:28 PM
ripping is not something that will be done at the speed your burner can burn. Especially if there are scratches and stuff on the disk you are backing up.
Typically you can only RIP at what ever the speed of fast forward is. There is copy protection put on the disks that allow them to only be read so fast.
I have the same results. About 30 mins to rip a 1.5h DVD.
Ripping is not encoding, what you are describing is only transferring the data from the DVD to your HDD. I have a Lite-On & I'm sure is not rip-locked, takes about 14mnts - 20mnts depending on actual data size for a Dual Layer DVD to be ripped in ISO format to my HDD with DVD Decrypter & CPU usage is errartic ranging from 7% - 24% with a maximum read rate of 11.5X for clean media. IF DMA was not enabled you will experience higher CPU usage which is not the case.
Possibilities Rip-Lock - Firmware update Copyright Protection being difficult - Walk out of the room;) PCI Latency not set properly in the BIOS - Post in MoBo Section HALT Command Active - Disable in BIOS, if not available use WPCREDIT/WPCRSET SATA Controller - SATA BIOS/Driver Update
EDIT = My CPU usage is most probably high because I am running RAID0 & writing a large amount of DATA to the stripe.
Remove the link in your sig ASAP. You are not allowed to have links as per the rules that you agreed upon when joining the forums.
I forgot that some copy protection schemes can severely slow the process down.
U_GONA_DIE
03-28-05, 08:18 PM
ok it depends on the encryption type and the size of the disk and the speed of your drive
kukyfrope
03-30-05, 12:52 AM
Sonny hit the nail on the head. Chances are your drive can only rip DVDs so fast with its given firmware and hardware limitations. MOST DVD writers ship with a lock that prevents wild ripping speeds (16x). With a "riplock removed" firmware, that lock is removed and you can read DVD5 (4.37GB discs, single layer) at higher speeds (often up to the speed your burner is rated at) and DVD9 (8.7GB discs, dual layer) at speeds up to 10x or so.
DVD-RW Pioneer DVR-109 - If this is the DVD player you are using, I know it is a very popular series with some newer firmwares out (1.40). My suggestion would be checking out the forums over at www.rpc1.org . Try searching for your DVD burner model (DVR-109) at http://forum.rpc1.org/search.php . There are quiet a few threads, which I would recommend you one if my campus internet would work right... Please note that flashing your drive to a new firmware usually VOIDS your warranty.
If you are looking for a drive that will rip DVDs faster, I would recommend a Lite-On 16x Drive (XJ-166S if you can find it). I found a riplock remove firmware that let me rip dual-layer discs at ~10x (13 minutes). Shame it doesn't have room in this case and is sitting on my dresser!!
My current NEC 3520A has riplock removed and can unfortunatly only rip up to about 6x on dual layer discs, but it's not much of a problem since I don't buy as many DVDs anymore that require being backed up.
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