Internet Explorer on Linux

[Athlonight]

Is this possible ??

[telexen]

With the plethora of [much] better browsers available, such as Mozilla, Firefox, and Opera (including many others)...there's just no reason to.

But you can try Wine

[Athlonight]

Wine? I cant play on msn gaming zone on linux without IE

[petteyg359]

Wine doesn't do IE. CrossOver Office will let you run IE on Linux (also lets you run Office and other stuff). It does cost a lot to buy it, though.

Telexen: IE is still the most standards-compliant/-capable browser, hopefully Firefox will catch up to that soon. I know of several sites that require IE, but most of them are probably paid to do that by Macro***** (Neveron.com, OTOH, has some stuff that requires IE, because other browsers don't support it).

[Athlonight]

i mean why go from windows to linux if you can't access the full net.. ?

[telexen]

Telexen: IE is still the most standards-compliant/-capable browser

Now *that* is a lie

They're the most standard compliant to Microsoft's OWN HTML/CSS/Javascript/etc standards...not real standards

[gigahertz]

i mean why go from windows to linux if you can't access the full net.. ?


what are you talking about? :shrug:

[Athlonight]

you CANT go to msn gaming zone and some other sites with this mozilla..

[Midnight Dream]

Though I dont use it, solution is Opera I believe.

Browser spoofing

When sites are poorly written and set up to work with only one or a limited set of browsers, Opera provides the user with the ability to masquerade as another browser to get optimized content.

[Athlonight]

nice!

[Athlonight]

how do you browser spoof on opera

[Midnight Dream]

I believe it would be somewhere in the settings, though if you are willing to wait until tommorow evening (after 9PM EST) I could emerge it and tell you. I have work till then.

[Athlonight]

it was spoofed as IE, and msn gaming zone doesnt work.. is there a way to use the real IE in linux fedora core 3 ?

[kaltag]

it was spoofed as IE, and msn gaming zone doesnt work.. is there a way to use the real IE in linux fedora core 3 ?
Wine- http://winehq.com/
Crossover Office - http://www.codeweavers.com/
Those are your options. Have fun. :)

[klingens]

I just don't get people who go to the trouble of installing and using linux, then insisting on Windows programs where better non-windows alternatives exist. I can understand it (barely) if they want to get things like AutoCAD working in Linux, but IE?
The mind boggles.

Telexen: IE is still the most standards-compliant/-capable browser
Is there a hall of fame on ocforums? Please?

[IrQ]

I just don't get people who go to the trouble of installing and using linux, then insisting on Windows programs where better non-windows alternatives exist. I can understand it (barely) if they want to get things like AutoCAD working in Linux, but IE?
The mind boggles.


Is there a hall of fame on ocforums? Please?

Im treading carefully with this post as I dont want to start a flame, but as a general disagreement he is right. Linux is far better, more stable, and just overall works better. All of my problems suddenly dissappeared when I switched over to linux. But some things do require IE, such as msn gameing zone whih apperently he uses. Some people prefer MSN gameing over spynet and the others, its just there preference. Maybe people he plays against only use msn. For that case your kinda stuck using IE which they wont and do not make for IE. Facts of life...

[trailnut]

I believe the Mozilla browser has a spoofer in it as well but I don't believe it works at MSN sites. Sorry.

[klingens]

Yes some things need IE, but it's anything but due to a "standard". The only real reason ever for using IE is ActiveX, and if that's a standard then we really need a new Internet.

I agree he might find IE better or more agreeable, there is no squabbling about taste. But talking about standards and IE in the same sentence needs negation on between to make it a true statement.

[petteyg359]

Specific example of requiring IE, and it's not because it's a M$ site (and it doesn't use ActiveX):

Neveron.com... It's a battetech MMO(RP)G. Their site is only accessible through IE. They've had people exploit bugs on it before, and they fix them as they can, but due to differences in the way IE, Opera, Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape, etc. work, those things could be exploited differently with a different browser. They don't want to have to go through them all again just to support other browsers.

[Gnufsh]

Things that need ie generally do so because they break the standards (which can be found here: http://www.w3.org/) and use ie-specific things.

I do have ie working under wine (I don't use it, so I don't know why). This thread over at the gentoo forums was very helpful in figuring it out:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-148168.html

These may also be helpful (tools for configuring wine and installing some things like dcom98 and ie):
http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html

[OSGentoo]

Wine is full well capable of running IE 6, i have it installed, works fine. If you want an easy and free way to install IE via wine, use WineTools 2.1.1, here is a link
http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/

[Athlonight]

yeah i'm a pretty big newb here... how do you use wine ? where does it install to ?

[gigahertz]

hey , Linux is not for everyone :P

[Gnufsh]

You can download it here:
http://winehq.com/site/download#third-party

And instructions for it are here:
http://winehq.com/site/howto

After it's installed, grab winetools (http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/) and use it to install ie. I'm afraid I can only give you detailed install help on gentoo. It's been years since I used another distro.

[Ryan0rZ]

There used to be a version of IE for one of the Unix Flavors, I never checked to see which hardware it ran on, and I don't remember which OS. I doubt it'd work on Linux anyway, but it might. (It won't.)

[telexen]

There is an ActiveX control for Mozilla/Firefox...though I've never bothered with it.

[Athlonight]

where ?

[Gnufsh]

You can find the plugin here:
http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/plugin.htm

I'm not sure it works undert linux, though (it wouldn't install for me).

edit: a look at the faq tells me it doesn't work nder linux:
http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/faq.htm

[PhoenixMDM]

I remember trying to install 3d studio in linux a few years back. Wine handled it fine, except that 3ds insisted on having IE, which refused to be installed via wine. I ended up sticking with windows till about 6 months ago, when i realized i never use the programs i needed windows for anymore, and then i switched to yoper. Been a happy man ever since ^_^

[rogerdugans]

A couple of things to say here.
First, let me get this off my chest:

The Alt. OS area of these forums has always been good about NOT bashing windows on the whole, or bashing windows users or those who need windows apps that just will NOT (yet) work in linux.
Please let us keep it that way.

Next: Internet Exploder..errr, I mean Explorer ;) is still the most common browser in use worldwide. Not because it is the best, necessarily, but because most computer users don't know about alternatives or are unwilling for whatever reason to try them.
IE is NOT a standards compliant browser however. It has a whole lot of junk that is not compliant with the standards for web publishing that exist.
It may even be the least compliant browser that is commonly available.....

But, it does have features that some use and see the need for.
One thing that it has going for it is that if a website wants to do complex stuff and make sure that everything works fine for everyone that views it...well, the widest audience probably uses IE.

Personally, I plan on trying out some of the stuff in this thread to see if I can get it working....no current need per se, but I enjoy the challenge. ;)

[MRD]

Actually, this forum has a long tradition of hating/bashing windows. That's not to say we hate windows users, but lots of us hate windows, and this is where we come to be around like minded people.

[Flamed_Chip]

That shouldn't mean we can't provide advice to people wishing to run Windows apps under Linux instead of just saying it's rubbish try something else.

[rogerdugans]

Actually, this forum has a long tradition of hating/bashing windows. That's not to say we hate windows users, but lots of us hate windows, and this is where we come to be around like minded people.

Ok, I'll give you that.

I stand corrected.

But the other point stands that we don't bash those that do use windows apps. (other than busting chops just a bit ;)) and that we DO try to help get things working.

[King Warg²]

omg its just like microsoft to force stuff to work on ONLY their browser, i swear i hate M$ more and more every day, I wouldnt poison linux by putting MSIE on it..anything made by microsoft probably has some kind of linux killer virus in it to sabotage a linux machine.