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Now that we have the main site under control again I think it's time for a role call. In order to make the update process run smoothly and consistently we need to define specific roles for each section of the page. I would like to propose that we have a general deadline for turning in updates so that I can plan on uploading the same day each week. I want everybody who still wants to participate to chime in here and tell me precisely what you want to do so we can delegate some tasks as soon as possible. Also when Morpheus left he announced that SpeeDj was taking over the role of project leader. Now I'm not knocking the guy at all, but for whatever reason he has not been able to offer much help as far as the page goes. At this point I think we need to decide who should assume this task. Personally I feel like the position should be titled project coordinator, not leader, but that's just my opinion. Everyone that contributes is an integral part of the team, and I don't think anyone deserves more credit than the others. So having said that, I want to hear from you all. If you want me to do this I will, Chawken and several others would also do a fine job. Speak up folks :)
Morpheus
09-30-01, 01:23 AM
It's important the project HAVE a leader... Especially when dealing with SETI@home & the "outside" community...
Tim, you had my vote long ago...
the news stats look great.... I am honored you all have done so much to keep the project alive... I believe you all will do a great job...
Crunch on!!!
Kris you got it going - that was the hard part by far. We're just keeping it rolling. I appreciate the vote of confidence. I know the team needs a "leader" but somehow that term bothers me. It makes me feel like the leader deserves all the credit, when in reality the people that do the work are just as important. I'm willing and honored to be the "leader" if so asked, but I don't want to take credit away from all the guys that contribute the "guts" to the project. I hope that makes sense.
I will vote for tim as "coordinator" or leader. I can handle individual stats, milestones, top 25's and new members if needed.
[Oc]acaridans
09-30-01, 08:56 AM
TC you'll get my vote as well.....Im still willing to help out where ever posiable with the stats.
It would seem that TC would like my resignation, If that is truly how you feel please let me know, in retrospect I have really truly only been in charge since the tenth, and I think we all know what happened on the 11th. If this is truly how you feel I would please be obliged that you send me a PM or an E-Mail as I instructed all stats team members to do earlier had you read the thread. You can e-mail me at SpeeDj@wi.rr.com I would be glad to hear from you. Thus far I have heard in from Thelemac, [Oc] Chris, and Maestro, all of whom have been willing to keep contributing to the stats team effort. As well as contribute to graphics and what not.
I have been a member of this team for a long time, and when we started our own team page I was the one who helped create the graphics for it. My dedication is not lacking I am simply at the point where I need to see what is going on. Alot of people were not happy that Kris had appointed me Team Leader, in fact Kris and I later had decided upon Co-Team Leader because I in no way wanted to disrespect all the work that Kris had done for our team. I simply wanted the waters to calm, I am more than glad alot of you have stepped up the effort so to speak, that is really what Kris and I felt was needed for the stats team to progress and go forth.
Well there are my thoughts on the matter you know where to reach me and how to get ahold of me.
Sincerely, J
Honestly I don't care who the leader is but we do need a LEADER. Someone who posts here daily. There has been a major lack of stats updats and direction it almost lost use some very valued members. I have tried to keep the stats going the last few weeks, I really like this team and we have a lot of users with great personal knowledge. I just don't want to see the team fall apart.
Tim, you've got my full support as new team leader and I am pleased to hear you are willing to take this job.
I use this post to reassure I'm ready as milestone processor for the team. Give me some sheets with team data and I'm on the road.
What is our new idea for the milestones, I guess we keep it like we've always done it.
Go team!
M@€$†®Ö™
09-30-01, 11:18 AM
I posted up to get people going again. And perhaps the load of co-ordinating things should be split up somewhat as IRL things can slow down somethings for just 1 person. There is alot of effort involved with guiding a team such as this.
I feel that there should be 2 or 3 people co-leading allowed and to keep the lines of communication between the Stats Team and the Oc.com Seti Team allowing some flexibility if others have IRL matters to take care of. This will permit the team to keep the enthusiasm alive and the team well informed and adjustments can be made on the fly without much in the way of feeling like things are boring. I feel that SpeeDj and Morpheus and TC can all play parts and if 1 or the other get tied up IRL others can pick up and keep the ball rolling without missing a heart beat.
This is not a personal attack on anyone. Just sharing circumstances of the past events and trying to provide a constructive solution or idea to help in the future.
Maestro
killem1x1
09-30-01, 12:04 PM
I am not casting a vote, as I don't recall that was what was asked of us, if I "mis-read" something please let me know. Having said that though, I do feel like some of the other members obviously. In order for me to feel motivated about doing things for the team, I need to see what I've been seeing this last week. More interaction, Stats, ideas, etc...I was considering moving to a different project, but have changed my mind since I've been seeing stats, more posts, etc.
Again, I will be more than happy to offer any html experience for our Team. I'm not that good with Excel unfortunately ;)
SpeeDj,
I think there has been a misunderstanding here. Nobody asked you to resign. The issue was we weren't sure if you wanted to or could do anything. Weeks have gone by with scarcely a single post from you. People were wondering what's going on - why no sign of leadership and direction. A few of us began to think that you were busy or that Kris had dumped a job on you that you didn't want. When Maestro stirred the waters with his 'what's going on post' it was obvious that people wanted to see stats and they wanted to see some action in the team. Chawken and Basher had already taken it upon themselves to get some numbers posted. I felt obligated to pitch in and do something, so I talked to Kris and started getting the main site going again. With Kris having resigned over a month ago, and just one post from you, I think we were all ready to try to get something going on our own. I simply took the initiative to get the ball rolling. There has been talk of bad mouthing, and I don't know where that came from. In my other post I said I was not knocking you at all, but nothing was happening for some reason. I didn't say you've done a bad job or anything of that nature, but simply nothing is happening and people want action, and we're not hearing from you. So that's how I see it. I just tried to get things going again. I'm not much of a politics player, and seeing as how we've already lost our founder to local politics, I'm just going to back off and let you all sort this out. If the people want me to do something I will. If they want you to, that's fine too. I didn't go to all this effort to offend you, I did it because I love the team and I wanted to see this place alive again. I'm willing to be the "leader" or an assistant or whatever, but I will not stay here if there are going to be hurt feelings and ill will.
M@€$†®Ö™
09-30-01, 03:26 PM
Hmm ! TC hang back just a bit here. Things are misunderstood in a small fashion. People are misunderstanding each other. The team as a whole is the focus and what benefits the team is paramount overall. This is supposed to be fun. I think a careful meeting of the minds will help put things back in order.
I believe Morpheus gave you the stuff you needed to help maintain things in the absense of SpeeDj and SpeeDj is a Co-Leader and Morpheus is the other. I see no breaking down of things at all.
You were given keys to the helm because Morpheus felt confident you could do something with it. I believe it was a big miscommunication in itself between Morpheus and SpeeDj as one might have not none what was going on with the other ? That is where perhaps a small confusion came into play. The Bottom line is simple I want to see the team succeed and have fun. Having fun being most important.
Morpheus and SpeeDj had IRL matters to tend to. And Morpheus felt that TC would be best suited to help the team continue forward during these matters. I feel the lines of communication broke down and that is what caused some of the problems we are trying to reorganize as a team.
I like TC enjoy crunching and participating. And if TC did not step up I would have. The end of this should be a team that can relax without worry of not being able to communicate and in the immediate past that communication broke down. And hence the team floundered and enthusiams wained. I saw this happening and waited patiently to see if the communication would be re-established and I did not. So I took it upon myself to "stir the waters" as this was needed and now in small part to that the team is getting back on track. There was much effort from Chawken and Basher and many others to keep things going but with no direct communication things were not as smooth flowing as they could. So I hope that we can have a team that can communicate and kick some butt in the SETI stats !
Post your thoughts as I have shared mine. And understand I say all of this for the team benefit as a whole and nothing else. We have a kick @$$ team and I personally will hope that we can get the pieces in place to keep us moving onward and upward.
Maestro
Morpheus
10-01-01, 12:50 AM
Well said Maestro.....
I've put some small portion of myself into this team & stats pages & all.... and am proud of what it has become... and continues to do... the last thing I wanted to see was the whole thing fall apart...
Tim stepped up to plate of reponsibility and has made something happen... with A LOT of help & hard work I might add... this is more than anyone, myself included, has done for the team since 8/10....
& I think actions speak louder than words...
here is a quote from a post I put up about a month ago.. I still feel the same...
Everybody interested, be sure to take a look here... I think Daman, Thelemac, has a good handle on Excel... & I would recommend him as project leader pro tem based on many other qualities I have observed & what I believe is his interest in the position & it's many duties...
I would also unreservedly recommend Basher, should Daman decline.. I have much respect for his continued commitment to keeping the team viable...
Tim (TC) would have been my first choice... his knowledge, abilities and techical resources are vast, but I also understand Tim simply doesn't have the time...
and, thirdly, Chawken... His knowledge and ability to, perhaps, automate some of the stats is the next direction the team might want to consider going... realistically, who among us will have the time, energy & patience to update all the current stats pages when the membership reaches 1,000? 2,000? 4,000?... (and I think it will)
Mictlan
10-01-01, 10:27 AM
I think that a little misunderstanding is been seen here.
Let me se what some of us (the people that put their boxes to crunch that really want to contribute to the team in another way, but don't have the time to do it) will be expecting from the leader of the team:
1.-It mus be very visible in this forum. Many of the new recruit need a kick start with their boxes. As we aproach the 750 members, many of the FAQ porp here and again in the forum. We need this to be as quickly as possible answered. Also this guys needs to be welcomed and quickly tipped in how to obtain the faster WU they can with their boxes.
2.-We need someone to help getting the site again in shape. Basher and Chawken have been doing a great job with a ll the stats and graphs, but this must be putted into the oc's seti homepaga, as many of the members of the team uses this on their sign. TC obtained the access to the homepage and update it.
My congratulations to all this great work.
This two responsabilities uses lot of time, and the guy that wants this position needs to make a commitment to apply.
Just my two cents.
chawken
10-01-01, 10:48 AM
After reading this thread and a couple of others, there seems to be a large split in peoples feelings.
A month ago there was not a problem with SpeeDj being the co-project leader - as no one wanted the project leader's position to be filled by anyone but Kris, myself included. Yes Kris has had some life changes, but with a good support team, I really don't see where his life changes would affect his leadership. If everyone in the stats team and support groups are doing what they signed up for, then the position of Project Leader would not take that much time - especially if there is a strong Assistant Project Leader.
With the site down, and many members hungry for info, Basher stepped up with the Stats, and I was very happy to deliver the Challenge Graph - which I still would like to do. However, this team was slipping into limbo - not knowing who was on top leading. Daniel~, through his own personal difficulties with overclockers.com left the forums, Kris - with personal life changes asked to be replaced, and SpeeDj accepting the position. However, while the members started doubting where the leadership was, very vocally by the way, there was no one to respond or reassure that all was well, that the team was still intact and strong. Until recently, with the site down, the only mode of communication, that the team had not fallen a part, was here at the forums.
With no disrespect to SpeeDj, an occasional posting, just to update members as to the progress of the downed site, and that you were still actively involved. Many members were doubting that there was anyone at the top even interested in the team anymore. I was aware of the problems and still there were many doubts in my mind.
Sorry for the long post but, I feel that we need to define who is who, and who is interested in continuing this team. We need to define the TEAM.
As I stated before, I would enjoy continuing the Challenge Graph and the intercept dates. I just need the email addy of whom I should send it to - until then I will post it in these forums.
Last - please excuse any spelling errors - where is the D*mn spell checker!!!!
M@€$†®Ö™
10-01-01, 11:28 AM
Well from what I can see almost everyone in the mix has posted up. I hope to hear from those who have not posted soon. And see where things go from here.
Maestro
Originally posted by chawken
After reading this thread and a couple of others, there seems to be a large split in peoples feelings.
A month ago there was not a problem with SpeeDj being the co-project leader - as no one wanted the project leader's position to be filled by anyone but Kris, myself included.
.....................
Last - please excuse any spelling errors - where is the D*mn spell checker!!!!
Well put. We still have yet to hear back form SpeeDj. I honestly think TC should be team leader or what ever he wants to name the position. He is all ready doing a bang up job.
M@€$†®Ö™
10-01-01, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Basher
Well put. We still have yet to hear back form SpeeDj. I honestly think TC should be team leader or what ever he wants to name the position. He is all ready doing a bang up job.
Allow SpeeDj to post up :) I know I have seen him online yesterday and I did fire a pm to him. So just give a little bit here :)
Maestro
I apologize that I have not given more of a prompt reply, but unfortunately my cable service went south and hadn't come back till this afternoon. I need to start off by saying I am sorry if I have stepped on any toes and or feelings. I was simply just a bit taken aback by the tone and implication's in quite a few of the post's. I have thought long and hard about this and I think I have come up with a game plan that get's everything rolling again like it should. Again I apologize for taking so long.
Overclockers.com Seti @ Home Team Co-Leaders
Morpheus - Kris Kurrus
SpeeDj - Jeremy Paasch
Statistics - Logistics Co-Ordinator
TC - Tim Cole
Thelemac - Stats Tracking (Team)
Murphy - Milestone Tracking
[Oc]acardians - Stats Tracking (Individual)
Basher - Top 25's/New Members
Website/Graphics Design Co-Ordinator
Maestro - Mark
Reddeathdrinker - Graphics Assistant
Chawken - Team Graphs/Challenges
Public Relations/Recruitment
Killem1x1
Statistics Development (Long Term)
- Auto Updates
- Scripts
- etc.
*Yet to be filled*
If I have missed anyone please let me know. Again I cannot thank you guys enough for stepping up and taking charge. I needed a wake up call.
Sincerely J
p.s. If anyone would like to shift around or has any other suggestion's please let me know.
M@€$†®Ö™
10-01-01, 06:18 PM
Alrighty, I now have something to sink my teeth into. My question is TC had access to server with Morpheus permission. Had that changed at all ? I know certain key people might need access such as TC. The 3 long term positions (scripts and such) you said where left unfilled has me wondering about intermediate steps to make sure those parts of site are taken care of in some fashion. Lastly if you SpeeDJ have things that sidetrack your ability to be in close contact with the team who is the next person inline to handle those matters. I just feel that a bit of team effort here is very key. And wanted your input and thoughts into that area as that is very key in opinion to keeping everyone spot on with info and news. Thanks for Getting some info out to everyone as it was very important.
Maestro
No, TC still does in fact have access to the server. That I don't believe is a huge issue at this moment. The next in-lines should Kris or I prove unavailable are you and Tim to handle anything should there be an interim, Vacation's Family Problems etc. As a team we need to again re-instate the weekly update e-mails among each other again to stay upon the same page. The long terms are more long term goals for the site. Your position's would all be long term or until such time you either name a replacement or step down. Again this is all to create more of a unity of our team in all aspects. It is of the utmost importance that we as a team stay upon the same page. I think alot of the miscommunication is my fault, well if not all. No one knew what was going on or direction to take since I had stepped away from the helm. With this structure we would all stay informed as the going's on. Mention was made of progressing statistics more toward an auto-update fashion, therefore I felt it important that it be made known that it is indeed within the best of interests that at some point we progress towards that. I think PR is also essential if we are to carry forward we need some guys in charge of the "Welcome Wagon" so to speak =)
Again this is a rough draft of the proposed goals and roles for everyone. I hope sincerely this clears up some.
J
Originally posted by Maestro
Alrighty, I now have something to sink my teeth into. My question is TC had access to server with Morpheus permission. Had that changed at all ? I know certain key people might need access such as TC. The 3 long term positions (scripts and such) you said where left unfilled has me wondering about intermediate steps to make sure those parts of site are taken care of in some fashion. Lastly if you SpeeDJ have things that sidetrack your ability to be in close contact with the team who is the next person inline to handle those matters. I just feel that a bit of team effort here is very key. And wanted your input and thoughts into that area as that is very key in opinion to keeping everyone spot on with info and news. Thanks for Getting some info out to everyone as it was very important.
Maestro
M@€$†®Ö™
10-01-01, 06:46 PM
I know Thelemac wanted to be in the Mix. I am going to PM RedDeathDrinker and ask him to help me in some aspects of the Graphics if need be. If he is up to it. I can pivot off of Tim quite easily as far as communication is concerned if you need to handle IRL matters. I just wanted to know some of the hierarchy in your absents as you have defined and I understand now. There is a problem with TC accessing the server and hope TC and SpeeDj can sort that out. I feel much better that I can understand how things work and get this team inline to kick some teams @$$ ! I believe once the team sees this part of the thread the will feel much better. Thanks SpeeDj !!!
Maestro
M@€$†®Ö™
10-01-01, 06:50 PM
Also can this thread be made into a temporary sticky. I really think the team needs to see the bottom part of this thread.
Thanks
Maestro
Thelemac
10-01-01, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Maestro
I know Thelemac wanted to be in the Mix. I am going to PM RedDeathDrinker and ask him to help me in some aspects of the Graphics if need be. If he is up to it. I can pivot off of Tim quite easily as far as communication is concerned if you need to handle IRL matters. I just wanted to know some of the hierarchy in your absents as you have defined and I understand now. There is a problem with TC accessing the server and hope TC and SpeeDj can sort that out. I feel much better that I can understand how things work and get this team inline to kick some teams @$$ ! I believe once the team sees this part of the thread the will feel much better. Thanks SpeeDj !!!
Maestro
Um...it looks to me like we're both on there, Maestro. :)
Thelemac
10-01-01, 07:24 PM
For the unassigned stuff...I was hoping to get my paws on that, though I'm pretty sure it'll take some collaboration. Working on going through the stat sheet to see if I can figure out the problem...or at least figure out how to get it all automated once it's fixed. :)
M@€$†®Ö™
10-01-01, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Thelemac
Um...it looks to me like we're both on there, Maestro. :)
All I gotta say is I gotta get glasses or cut back my time on Oc.com my brain is stew. You are absolutely right ! Sorry about that Thelemac !
Maestro
M@€$†®Ö™
10-01-01, 07:55 PM
Can you please make this thread a short term sticky Thelemac perhaps a few day or so. As I feel the team really would benefit from reading the bottom part of this thread.
Maestro
M@€$†®Ö™
10-01-01, 07:56 PM
Ok I see its already done. Time for me to hush my mouth for a bit :D
Maestro
First of all it's good to finally hear from Jeremy. Frankly I was becoming disheartened with the seeming lack of concern, but I believe that has been put to rest now. Second, I still cannot access the server. The user name is accepted, but the password is being rejected as of this morning. I sent an email to Skip and haven't heard from him. I don't believe Jeremy has any control over the server though.
I've been thinking about this a lot this afternoon, and I would like to propose getting our own domain. Skip was generous to provide us with space, but he doesn't want to use front page extensions, and I don't see him providing any support for sql so we can automate the site with a back end database. I would like to have better access to the action on the server side of things. I can get this setup up very quickly if you all think it's a good idea. I don't mind paying to set it up either. For a name I was thinking of www.teamoverclockers.org. I have been using a host that provides excellent features and reliability. They would give me a good deal on a package. This would provide extensions for easier updating, as well as full support for sql and php and our own team member emails and ftp space for swapping things around. Speak up and let me know what you all think about this.
Tim,
It's great to hear from you. Are you in ? Does everything I proposed sound Kosher ? =)
As for the Domain name that would be great I think. Skip does have SQL support enabled. He run's sql on his all "Linux" box's that help keeps this site running smooth. As for frontpage extension's if we could show valid reasoning behing needing them I am sure we could talk him into it. =)
Skips quite a reasonable guy =)
Well anyway let me know, looking forward to hearing from you all =)
J
Morpheus
10-01-01, 09:49 PM
Both sound good Jermey's proposition & Tim's server ideas... as the team goes to autoupdate status it is going to open some security issues, or potential issues for Skip... I am sure...
I think that even the Frontpage extensions raise some concerns...
BTW, I have FINALLY gotten us on the softdata stats... this has been almost 5 months in the works...
look here: http://www.seti.softdata.si/d/d_www_overclockers_com_seti_team_team_results.htm
:D
I'm definitely in. I really like the idea of our own domain name, but lets see what people have to say. Skip adamantly refused to install extensions because of the security risk. I understand that and I don't want to get pushy with him. I'd rather we do it somewhere else so if the server was hacked it wouldn't be Skip's and bring down the forums. I couldn't understand why he seemed opposed to the idea of a database since this forum is running on php, so he's obviously got my sql running. Maybe he just doesn't want to give us access to sql and allow us to build our own tables. The move would be not so much to get extensions and so forth, but more so to finally have our own name. A team approaching 1000 members deserves this in my opinion. I think it would also be nice to have our own member emails to keep things separated. I know when I've run other projects in the past it became annoying having project related emails mixed up with personal messages. Anyway you all mull it over and speak up.
Alright let's try this, again all who are newly named members please get back to me immediately via e-mail =) ASAP. Thanks!
Overclockers.com Seti @ Home Team Co-Leaders
Morpheus - Kris Kurrus
SpeeDj - Jeremy Paasch
Statistics - Logistics Co-Ordinator
TC - Tim Cole
- Murphy - Milestone Tracking
- [Oc]acardians - Stats Tracking (Individual/Team)
- Basher - Top 25's/New Members
Website/Graphics Design Co-Ordinator
Maestro - Mark
- Reddeathdrinker - Graphics Assistant
- Chawken - Team Graphs/Challenges
- SpeeDj - Graphics Support
Public Relations/Recruitment
Killem1x1
Statistics Development - Co-Ordinator
Thelemac - Daman Auvenshine
If I have missed anyone please let me know.
Sincerely J
Originally posted by Morpheus
Both sound good Jermey's proposition & Tim's server ideas... as the team goes to autoupdate status it is going to open some security issues, or potential issues for Skip... I am sure...
I think that even the Frontpage extensions raise some concerns...
BTW, I have FINALLY gotten us on the softdata stats... this has been almost 5 months in the works...
look here: http://www.seti.softdata.si/d/d_www_overclockers_com_seti_team_team_results.htm
:D
Cool! What you said about the security risks is just one reason I'd like to move the site to a new host. Skip already has enough to deal with on his free time. I don't want to bother him anymore.
Originally posted by Morpheus
Both sound good Jermey's proposition & Tim's server ideas... as the team goes to autoupdate status it is going to open some security issues, or potential issues for Skip... I am sure...
I think that even the Frontpage extensions raise some concerns...
BTW, I have FINALLY gotten us on the softdata stats... this has been almost 5 months in the works...
look here: http://www.seti.softdata.si/d/d_www_overclockers_com_seti_team_team_results.htm
:D
Sweet
M@€$†®Ö™
10-02-01, 08:25 AM
Man this is really taking off I love it !
Maestro
chawken
10-02-01, 09:15 AM
I am in. SpeeDj, I sent you an email acknowledging. I will spruce up the Challenge graph more for the web site.
luckywhitepaw
10-02-01, 02:03 PM
Hey TC I just got my system back in running condition, man it was a mess. As soon as I get my new download of the latest version of S.E.T.I.@home I make another post here to see what I can contribute also how do I join this team and I am going to get Earthlink in a week from now and they are giving me a free Website. I'll contribute this to the cause, for you to run TC. Oh and you also get my vote TC, its good to be back.
Alright guys, give me a day or so to collect my thought's and focus on the game plan, keep it rolling. Expect an e-mail to all listed above tomorrow for our first "official" united team update =)
Again we will keep focusing on keeping all of the team informed as to how it is going. Tim I am glad we sorted out the misunderstanding, a good friend brought it to my attention that I probably acted a bit out of character and jumped the gun. I am sorry for any assumption's.
As for webhosting, would my cable provide what we need ? I have a dedicated router and I can build a box with Linux, or W2K server to support our needs. Wouldn't that be easier and more cost effective yet still get our name out there ?
Just my thoughts on it. Then we are just saddled with the cost of the Domain name.
Just a couple thoughts!
J - keep on crunchin'
Thelemac
10-02-01, 05:58 PM
Hm..I suppose it depends what your upload is, and what kind of stress we put on the other site. Since we are, after all, growing in numbers rather rapidly we're sure to stress it quite a bit.
I think it would be a good idea just to see what kind of price Tim would get. If it's low enough I might even be able to help out (I am an unemployed student, currently, though, so I can't contribute too much). :)
It also depends on if your ISP likes the idea of websites being run off of thier bandwidth like that, as I know of several that are rather firmly against that.
Anyway, I think I've said what I wanted to, and if you can't understand anything that I strung together go ahead and say so and I'll clear things up tomorrow after I get some shuteye (which I didn't last night. Just couldn't get to sleep by my designated time, so I came back to my beloved computer. :))
Right. See you all tomorrow. :)
Don't worry about it. No hard feelings here. A lot of us just assumed you weren't interested, so we decided it was up to the rest of us to choose a new leader and get on with things. I didn't mean to imply that we don't like you or what you have done.
The cost is not a problem - I don't mind at all. What I'm in the process of doing is redirecting my business web site to my cable connection since it's rarely used, and that will leave an empty account with Westhost.
I'm all ready to go here, so if we can settle on a name I can get this done tonight and have the page moved by tomorrow.
I think truly we should brainstorm the members and see what they think. That way we can come up with several ideas and put it to a vote. A day or so won't hurt we have gone months without one up to this point.
As for hosting, who would have acess to it ? The main co-ordinators and leaders ? Or just certain people ? Just brainstorming out loud here, don't mind me.
Always open to suggestion. The reason why I thought my servers would handle it is just that they are already in place and a format is not out of the question to make them dedicated to something in specific.
Just let me know.
J
I think all the people on the team that provide content should have access.
Originally posted by TC
I think all the people on the team that provide content should have access.
I think so too, would speed up the updates, instead of having to email updates then wait for the updater to get home to load them. It would also reduce the work load of the team leaders/cooridnators.
Morpheus
10-03-01, 12:03 AM
Yes... everyone will have to make sure they have Frontpage 2K & the latest copy of the file(s) before they start updating though...
luckywhitepaw
10-03-01, 07:12 PM
How do I get all the updated files?
Thelemac
10-03-01, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by luckywhitepaw
How do I get all the updated files?
Which updated files are you referring to?
I think what Kris means is before everybody starts doing their part of the updates, all of us need to "synchronize" our copies of front page by getting the exact same up to date set of pages. We all need to start out with the exact same files. At least I think that's what he's talking about.
my guess too.
all of us need to "synchronize" our copies of front page by getting the exact same up to date set of pages
Thelemac
10-06-01, 12:41 AM
Which reminds me...
Is SpeeDj gonna keep our official stats and give them out to us so that we all have the same numbers and stuff? I think that would be a good idea myself. That way we can be sure to have similar projections and the like. :)
Is SpeeDj gonna keep our official stats and give them out to us so that we all have the same numbers and stuff? I think that would be a good idea myself. That way we can be sure to have similar projections and the like. Someone needs to but if speedj is having problems it should be someone else.
Thelemac
10-06-01, 01:21 AM
Well, I can be a backup resource for that. :)
I'll just have to remember to do it in the one that I'm not playing with. :)
Thelemac
10-06-01, 01:27 AM
Oh yeah, if anybody has been taking data, I kinda forgot to for the last couple of days (been pretty busy here, so it pushed it out of my mind) then I would love for you to export it for me so that I can get some. :)
Morpheus
10-07-01, 11:18 AM
Just FYI...
should you decide to support name changes, you need to:
1) Make a backup copy :)
2) "copy" data from old name
3) "paste special"/"value" into new name... careful, if you just "paste" the data, you will corrupt the sheet
(making sure you do both of the above into the correct "date fields" and for each name changed)
After doing this for both CPU & WU data on the name changed, the sheet will NOT be accurate until the next automatic update...
I also "shaded" names to follow which was not longer being used & which was current...
hope this helps....
Sir-Epix
10-08-01, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by SpeeDj
Alright let's try this, again all who are newly named members please get back to me immediately via e-mail =) ASAP. Thanks!
Overclockers.com Seti @ Home Team Co-Leaders
Morpheus - Kris Kurrus
SpeeDj - Jeremy Paasch
Statistics - Logistics Co-Ordinator
TC - Tim Cole
- Murphy - Milestone Tracking
- [Oc]acardians - Stats Tracking (Individual/Team)
- Basher - Top 25's/New Members
Website/Graphics Design Co-Ordinator
Maestro - Mark
- Reddeathdrinker - Graphics Assistant
- Chawken - Team Graphs/Challenges
- SpeeDj - Graphics Support
Public Relations/Recruitment
Killem1x1
Statistics Development - Co-Ordinator
Thelemac - Daman Auvenshine
If I have missed anyone please let me know.
Sincerely J
You forgot me. I do the Seti@home Tips & Tricks page. I will also be doing links.
M@€$†®Ö™
11-02-01, 05:26 AM
Just posting around a little bit checking in with everyone and seeing how things are going. I heard SpeeDj is having some IRL problems TC or Morph can someone bring me up to speed. Perhaps PM me if possible. Thanks :)
Maestro
Is it just me or is the front page to the team web site need adjusting? It is showing as text not as a web page. It appears to be loading as index.shtm...should this be index.shtml or something?
Just a heads up.
Cy
Thelemac
11-06-01, 05:58 PM
I think it's just you...
This is strange. I've been running Mozilla 0.9.5 for a while now and the team page loaded just fine. Now all of a sudden the front page just loads as a text page and is not parsed as html (shtm in this case). I can load the sub-pages just fine but not the front page.
Any ideas what is going on? :eek:
Cy
Thelemac
11-07-01, 11:48 AM
I haven't a clue.
M@€$†®Ö™
11-20-01, 10:45 PM
How is everyone doing :) Whats new on the Seti front. And if I miss saying hello or whatever Happy Thanksgiving to the US folks :)
Maestro
I think it's a good time to bump this year old thread so new old-timer's and new comers alike can have a look while all of this is going on.
papounet
10-13-02, 05:19 PM
My 2 euro cents on hosting (from way too many years in the business)
You shouldn't really attempt to run a server with Frontpage extensions enabled.
It would be far better to run it under Linux if you don't have a security admin on the job 8 hours a day to manage the security probelms of Win NT or Win 2K servers.
A cable modem behind a router AND a firewall could be OK if you have a alternate connection with a different provider.
It really depend on the traffic the site is getting + how relaible the providers are.
Regarding stats page and members list, aren't they automated ?
(shooting from the hip, I would recommend asp + component, but even Excel can do some fancy stuff).
papounet
Originally posted by papounet
My 2 euro cents on hosting (from way too many years in the business)
You shouldn't really attempt to run a server with Frontpage extensions enabled.
It would be far better to run it under Linux if you don't have a security admin on the job 8 hours a day to manage the security probelms of Win NT or Win 2K servers.
A cable modem behind a router AND a firewall could be OK if you have a alternate connection with a different provider.
It really depend on the traffic the site is getting + how relaible the providers are.
Regarding stats page and members list, aren't they automated ?
(shooting from the hip, I would recommend asp + component, but even Excel can do some fancy stuff).
papounet Thanks for the input on the hositng - but that was all done over a year ago. The team has been on the same host since early October of '01 without any problems. As for the stats - none of it is automated as of yet. SkyHook does the daily stats and I do the weekly stats update. A friend of mine has been preparing to make the stats update almost fully automatic using php scripts.
papounet
10-13-02, 05:25 PM
In a nutshell, if you would like to give the key to the pages of a site without diminshing the quality or thye security of the full server:
this is how I manage xx sites with updates from xxx editors :
the pages are XSL templates , the data files are XML (in a different directory).
the pages are assembled off-line and pushed to the public server.
this way, the editors can not change the layout, the pages are quite robust against owning/hacking.
Somebody needs to lead. I also don't think the "leader" is taking all of the credit. How about an agreement that the team gets all of the credit, and the leader takes all of the blame? ;)
Mictlan
10-14-02, 10:21 AM
As this ages old post resurface, I'll point again that a "team Leader" is really a position were , as Greg said, take only all the blame when something is a miss, not when something is running smoothly.
Some people pointed that less than 25% of the team members are active. This has happened from the time I joined the team (April 2001). Also many of the active members rarely ever post in here (maybe they just lurk the forum and have nothing to say, but that's their choice). The really active froum members have always been less than 100 guys at anytime. Some come for a while, some just until they get their farms going.....all of this is purely option as once I told Loney Raven when he decide to join the team.
This is one of the main characteristics of this team. There is so little participation of the members :(, this has caused that some of us step into positions of great power (like the power to disband the team in the berkeley server or unplugging the team site) that so far (barring the team name change) no one has used.
I firmly think that a leader must be seen, as more than a title is a place earned with hard work. A leader makes the members work, but not with threads or violence, but with examples, hard work and encouragement. If this title (or Admin, Stats maker or any other king of title) are causing so much infighting something must be done to correct it as quickly as possible, as this can cause great discontent in the regular members that use this forum.
Mictlan
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