What's the deal with CS:S

[RedDragonXXX]

Oh my god what's the deal with Counter Strike Source. This game is nothing that I have expected. In short word it SUCKS. Don’t mean to trash on the game, it looks amazing one of the best I have ever seen, but the game play is just plain garbage.
One of the problems is shooting people. Sometimes I shoot I guy with full health and armor in the torso and he dies right away (tested it with friend) and other times, basically most of the times I shoot the guy in the head with full clip and nothing happens. He just turns around and with one shoot (AK-47) kills me even though I had full health and armor. I don’t know if this is a bug in a game or something, but it’s really frustrating.

I like playing more realistic games like RainbowSix 3, GhostRecon 1&2 basically all military type based games where one shoot in the head kills and I though that this game would be like that, but boy was I wrong. Why did they destroy such a beautiful game with such garbage game play. CS is FPS tactical game not run and gun like UT2004, but it felt like it after playing it.
I don’t know if there is anyone out there that feels the same way about this, but it’s a crime if you ask me for what they did to that game which has so much potential.

P.S. Half-Life 2 Deathmatch is much better

[TheGreySpectre]

I have never been a real fan of cs in general, any version including source, they are fun sometimes, but i think they are overrated. I agrree the hitboxes could use soem work though. I dont feel the gameplay changed though. just the hitboxes arnt as good as they used to be

[Karbon]

It's not bugged at all, in fact its a lot better than 1.6

The only problem I've seen is the hitboxes are really different. In 1.6 the models are actually standing up straight, so a headshot is actually where it should be. In source the models are hunched over so a shot to the neck/upper chest is a headshot somehow. One of the things I do like is the recoil in source. It totally drives me crazy when I'm scrimming or playing a match against a team that's not even good, but they just hold the mouse down and spray me (I 2 shot burst the head). In source, you really can't spray at all so I like it more.

I got disputed after our cbble match yesterday, I have to upload my demos now :)

[Enigma422]

Haven't played CS:S in a while. I'm kind of going through my "I'm bored with CS" phase that I go through every so often, but I remember that they had a bug with the hit box lagging sometimes. Don't know if they fixed this yet, but if they didn't, this may be the reason for the randomness/luck of your kills.

[Gabbiani]

I have always felt like cs was a run and gun. UT has more strategy than this. Thats why I have played Desert Combat for years now. DOD is tolerable, but bf1942 was all about team work.

[RedDragonXXX]

Yep Battlefield rules, can't wait untill Battlefield 2. Now that game is going to be good.
As for CS:S they have been doing whole bunch of updates, but I don't see how they effected the game in any way. They need to get their s*** together and fix this problem asap.

[SpoonMaN]

iv been playin css for the last few months and CS for the last 3 years now
and i love the game as for cs being a run and gun u must not have played with or seen any cal-P/cal-i teams play
i was a playtester up at MS for BF1942 and i loved it...for a while
how ever i must say the head hit box in css sux ass i know a guy who gets like 95% HS.......i cant wait till vac2 gets him

[Turd Furguson]

CS:S biggest issue is the lack of VAC. Cheating is still very rampant.

[xTrEmEoVrClOcKr]

I dont like CS:S because of the HS's .. I think the hitbox is the entire body .. but overall its fun.

[Goateh]

VAC2 will come out and everything will be alright for about a month, then the cheating will start again. I myself, rather enjoy cs:s. I think its a large improvement over 1.6, its alot more fun to play, easier to look at and just generally enjoyable overall. I do agree the the hitboxes are rather weird compared to 1.6, but at least it doesn't look like a persons back has been replaced with a large steel pole now :)

Cs:s just takes a bit of getting used to when coming from 1.6. And yes I do play other games, I would consider myself a UT player not a cser :p

[techun]

i hate how you cant spray...even when right in their face

why bother making the guns full auto..

[Goateh]

you can always spray, just spray at their legs/feet ;)

[da_spork]

spraying is the only way I can hit people in source =\ I gave up on aiming whenever I play it. aimed shots never actually "hit" where I aim =\

[-Superman]

CS:S biggest issue is the lack of VAC. Cheating is still very rampant.
pubbing the game and playing it competitvely are two tottally diffrent things.

[Karbon]

pubbing the game and playing it competitvely are two tottally diffrent things.

Ironically, I disagree with you somewhat. In pubs it is generally pretty blatant when people are hacking, speedhacking or aimbot is pretty obvious. Scrimming or playing matches is totally different, many teams hack but it isn't obvious most of the time. I scrim 5+ times a day usually and there's a good chance at least one of the teams we play toggles or at least is "suspicoius". Even in CAL, at the main level, disputing someone does absolutely nothing as far as I'm concerned (especially when you look at players like moxley and mason, they've been playing many seasons of cal-i who knows how many times they've been hacking)

[KillrBuckeye]

Oh my god what's the deal with Counter Strike Source. This game is nothing that I have expected. In short word it SUCKS. Don’t mean to trash on the game, it looks amazing one of the best I have ever seen, but the game play is just plain garbage.
One of the problems is shooting people. Sometimes I shoot I guy with full health and armor in the torso and he dies right away (tested it with friend) and other times, basically most of the times I shoot the guy in the head with full clip and nothing happens. He just turns around and with one shoot (AK-47) kills me even though I had full health and armor. I don’t know if this is a bug in a game or something, but it’s really frustrating.

I like playing more realistic games like RainbowSix 3, GhostRecon 1&2 basically all military type based games where one shoot in the head kills and I though that this game would be like that, but boy was I wrong. Why did they destroy such a beautiful game with such garbage game play. CS is FPS tactical game not run and gun like UT2004, but it felt like it after playing it.
I don’t know if there is anyone out there that feels the same way about this, but it’s a crime if you ask me for what they did to that game which has so much potential.

P.S. Half-Life 2 Deathmatch is much betterI agree, it sucks. It completely baffles me why so many people love this game, when there are far better multiplayer FPS games out there. Heck, the free Q3-based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory is far superior IMO. The movement options in CSS suck... you can't even lean around corners. How do you not have a lean option in what is supposed to be a tactical combat game?

[covana2244]

I never really got into it either. I mean I like working on strategic sides of games how can I do that if CS:S "battles" are only like a minute long?

[Karbon]

its a first person shooter, this isn't an army simulation...

[-Superman]

Ironically, I disagree with you somewhat. In pubs it is generally pretty blatant when people are hacking, speedhacking or aimbot is pretty obvious. Scrimming or playing matches is totally different, many teams hack but it isn't obvious most of the time. I scrim 5+ times a day usually and there's a good chance at least one of the teams we play toggles or at least is "suspicoius". Even in CAL, at the main level, disputing someone does absolutely nothing as far as I'm concerned (especially when you look at players like moxley and mason, they've been playing many seasons of cal-i who knows how many times they've been hacking)

It seems now in CAL if you get banned you may not even be hacking. :argue:

Theres allways going to be people who are suspicious, some people could be just that good. Theyll get caught eventually. Take the good with the bad.

[Goateh]

It seems now in CAL if you get banned you may not even be hacking. :argue:

Theres allways going to be people who are suspicious, some people could be just that good. Theyll get caught eventually. Take the good with the bad.

I agree compeltely with that, there are people that are just stupidly good at games like that. Mind you, these are the people that just play games such as that and do nothing else :S. I remember playing a pub game where a player from NZs top team joined for a couple of rounds... and omg... no one stood a chance :<

[{BC}Helix]

I'm really, just now for some reason, begining to get deeply annoyed with CS:S. Like most people, you aim and emply clips at people's heads and they don't die. I'v taken screen shots where I've got 10 hits with a damage given of 70, or ones with 5 shots and 99 damage. But low and behold as soon as you pop around the corner, a bullet somehow finds it's way right to your damn pupil. If it wern't for the massive amount of people that play, the physics, graphics or sound I'd probally start playing Raven shield full time, or perhaps take the time to reinstall Ghost recon. Just hope to God they're not going to do this hogwash with Day of defeat:S. Now if anybody would get fed up enough to produce a mod making it more "real"...

[Turd Furguson]

Well I think I am going to dump the game till they fix a lot of these issues. I am tired of what most ppl are experiencing here also and it has drove me away from the game.

[ubergeek_aP]

I love the game...what I want to kill dies and if I die its because I wasnt paying attention, easy.

[RedDragonXXX]

Wow, it’s good to see that there are more people out there that have problem with this. I hope that someone could address them with this problem so they can fix it.

[-Superman]

some guns give more damage then others, ive hit a guy 12-16times with glock and ill be lucky to kill him. just varys from time to time and it also depends on the quality of the server you are playing on. you will never catch me in a 30player server, so frustrating when awp shots dont hit.

[Phoenix87]

The thing I hate most about CS is the shear amount of inaccuracies about the weapons. I mean, to anyone who is knowledgeable about firearms, its horrible to see what they do.

Left handed guns?
AK47s listed as shooting the wrong bullet?
EXTREME inaccuracy when using full auto?
Glaring problems with models/animations(the M4 is just painful to use)

How in the hell these wherent fix for CS source is just beyond me. I mean, it isnt that hard to say the AK47 shoots 7.62x39 instead of 7.62x51NATO. Or correct the M4 reload animation.

[Feydd]

CS & CS:S SUCK! Play Q3 urban terror, it's 10X funner than CS:S.

[-Superman]

i didnt pay 400dollars for a video card to play a 5year old game :)

[Feydd]

But you didn't pay 400 dollars to play an over rated bug filled ass clown circus did you?

[-Superman]

i dont seem to have any problems hitting people :)

and its so purdy.

[starchild]

This game has to be the hardest and most frustrating fps I've ever played.Not because of my level of play but due to lagging hitboxes and just generally poor gameplay.Hey Steam where is your anti-cheat system???And the way peeps can manipulate views etc with cvars.But cvars can also be good with some tweaking.You have to create an autoexec.cfg file and enter your cvar rates take a look at this http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=272677 and this http://steampowered.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=254
and http://home.covad.net/~k25125/SteamyThings/NetGraph_Steam.htm

One more thing to adjust is launch Steam>Play games>Right click on Counter Strike and go to properties,then go to launch options tab then enter -heapsize 512000 for 512 of ram 1,000,000 for a gig etc..After some tweaking the game runs great hitboxes are more accurate etc.Might help a little.

[Goateh]

Yeah, its a pain alright. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy it :D

although there is alot of tweaking required to get it to play smoothly and nice, i should probly do that .. mine tends to jerk alot when moving, even on lan :/

[Biermann]

Easiest explanation is cause your not very good. I'm in that same boat. Some people play this game everyday for hours and it shows . The more you play the better you get. It's all about getting used to game and controls.

...and it's really not a military strategy type game. With 3-5 minute rounds it's a rush and kill game, for me a rush and die.

[{BC}Helix]

The thing I hate most about CS is the shear amount of inaccuracies about the weapons. I mean, to anyone who is knowledgeable about firearms, its horrible to see what they do.

Left handed guns?
AK47s listed as shooting the wrong bullet?
EXTREME inaccuracy when using full auto?
Glaring problems with models/animations(the M4 is just painful to use)

How in the hell these wherent fix for CS source is just beyond me. I mean, it isnt that hard to say the AK47 shoots 7.62x39 instead of 7.62x51NATO. Or correct the M4 reload animation.

The Styr is also show as having the wrong bullet. It's 7.62 in the game, in real life it's 5.56.