Folding assignments

[TT120]

Ok, for everyone that said they would donate your folding time to a new mwmber for 3 days, let's work for cowanrg untill Wednesday and then switch over to dunga bee. So far we have 8 machines that we can dedicate to one person. That should raise their stats by quite a bit.

[Ploaf]

Reporting for duty. Folder 1 Client is now set up to fold for cowanrg.

[hooziewhatsit]

Same here, have 1/3 clients running for cowanrg since earlier this morning.


fold on!

[cowanrg]

outstanding!

i cant wait to see what my stats are.

right now i have the machine in my sig, and another NT workstation going 24/7.

[AmbientFiction]

Originally posted by TT120
Ok, for everyone that said they would donate your folding time to a new mwmber for 3 days, let's work for cowanrg untill Wednesday and then switch over to dunga bee. So far we have 8 machines that we can dedicate to one person. That should raise their stats by quite a bit.


Ummm what is going on?? Have I missed something?

[TT120]

Originally posted by AmbientFiction



Ummm what is going on?? Have I missed something? What we're doing is, several members of the folding team have graciously agreed to fold under new team members names for 3 days in order to give them a good start in the stats.

[AmbientFiction]

Originally posted by Would71
What is happening is this.. a bunch of people turned traitor and left our Folding team.. we're desperately trying to control the damage, but even one of our leaders is working for the other team, so I don't know how well that will work. We have a rogue moderator coming in here and modifying/deleting posts because he's "insulted" (his words) by what I said to the new team on their website.. claiming I've personally attacked someone when I did not, and using that as an excuse to do what he's doing. I have been lobbying for them to remove the front page link to the new site out of respect to those of us who have been with the team since they first posted about Folding@Home, who have some sense of responsibility to give back to the website that has given much to us. I am also officially calling for the removal of all official responsibilities from William, as he is abusing his power for personal gain.. something that they CLAIM they work HARD to avoid. I said NOTHING more than "I may have been mistaken in my recommendation" with regards to the person I pushed for co-leadership of this Folding team, because my MAIN reason for recommending this person was that I thought he devoted all his available resources to THIS team. Now I come to find out he has a machine Folding for the traitor team.

Why do I have such a problem with this? Because I am not normally a team player.. it took me a LOT of effort to get past that and come to this place and join the Folding team, and stay here all this time. If I can do it, as said in my sig, you have no excuse not to. I objected to Kahnza leaving the team just over competition purposes, and I object to everyone else leaving for some new website. According to Emails I've received, this is mostly over this Daniel guy leaving the forums, and I don't care for the personal reasons behind it. Hence, I object. I STRONGLY object.

Ok would well let me cover it for where I see it.
A: Folding is for science not for stats.

B: I fold for Life not stats.

C: So no matter what team I am foalding for it shouldn't matter.

D: I am foalding for AOA but I am not going to stay there forever. I am still foalding so WUs are being spun out by my system at all points in time. I am just helping to build more foalding teams to help more people that what this is all about right?

E: I have noticed you being more hostile lately. I am not here to judge you or tell you what to do but, just remeber that this is the NET you can not see someones face and that is something that will let you know if someone is joking or really doesn't like you. All I am trying to say is that tact will keep down the fights and desputes and also help the team because when their is fighting inside the team the team suffers.

In closeing I believe that more people not just here but everywhere could use more tact. Kindness is not an act of habbit anymore it is a dying act.

[TT120]

I am the one Would71 is referring to.

I DO have 1 (my slowest) of my machines folding for their team. I started doing that BEFORE i was nominated as Co-Captain of this team. I did that because I think they will have a great team and they deserve some help.

After all, Folding is for the overall good and not individual acheivement. I still will be folding primarily for this team and will devote as much time as I can to leading this team and making it better.

I am also aware that this has put me in somewhat of a conflict of interest situation and am trying to figure out how to best solve it.

OC.com has always been and will continue to be my home. That will not change.

Your opinions are requested on this situation including Would71's.

Bill.

[AmbientFiction]

Would I understand your anger but I find it to be a bit off key. I see where your coming from but I think its more anger than needs to be in this matter.

Yet again I will not judge you for I am not the judgeing type nor do I want to become like that. I think that all the fussing and fighting inside this team is going to lead to the end of it though.

A word to the wise once a team starts to fight it will only get worse from then on unless it is corrected and if it is not corrected then the end will soon come.

[William]

Well TT120, as far as I know you are free to do whatever you want. It is up for the team to decide. My vote may not count as others because I don't currently fold for oc.com(that will change once the team I am folding for gets off the ground) but I do have 3500+ units to my name at oc.com, and so i think I have the ability to add some imput.

[AmbientFiction]

Originally posted by William
Well TT120, as far as I know you are free to do whatever you want. It is up for the team to decide. My vote may not count as others because I don't currently fold for oc.com(that will change once the team I am folding for gets off the ground) but I do have 3500+ units to my name at oc.com, and so i think I have the ability to add some imput.

I know I may not have as many for OC.com but hey I left a 533 celeron foalding 24/7 for almost 3 months to get the number of WUs that I have.

[Thelemac]

Originally posted by Would71
Oh, and Thelemac.. I noticed you edited my post in the locked thread. I have you on Ignore for a reason.. so please stay out of my messages.

Of course I edited it. You were flaming somebody. I also edited other flaming posts in that. That's why it was closed in the first place.

[Tithulta]

I must say that I'm saddened by this thread. I left for a few days and left my dad incharge of my folding machines to make sure they continued to run 24/7. I understand you PoV Would, but loyalty isn't cut a dry when it comes to the GOOD of HUMANITY.

Stats are great, competition is also good, as it helps drives some to fold more and other to fold in the first place.

Unless I missed it somewhere I've heard no mention of a life time supply of <insert word(s) of choice> for the team with the most WU's.

Humanity is the ONLY beneficiary in F@H

I actually think alot of most of you postings and find these opinions to be only momentarily of concern.

What concerns ME right now is where did Stan go? He was without a doubt our teams biggest supporter and producer.but we've been without him awhile now. I don't think he left over the AMD/INTEL debate, but instead the internal conflicts that have been eating away at our team over the last couple weeks. Heck after seeing this thread I'm almost ready to quit and fold alone.

[William]

Originally posted by Tithulta
What concerns ME right now is where did Stan go? He was without a doubt our teams biggest supporter and producer.but we've been without him awhile now. I don't think he left over the AMD/INTEL debate, but instead the internal conflicts that have been eating away at our team over the last couple weeks. Heck after seeing this thread I'm almost ready to quit and fold alone.


I talked to stan, the power bill got to be too much for him, and he had to quit.

[SickBoy]

I feel like I'm caught in the middle of all this..... I know you guys are good people but, on the other hand, I'm a little disturbed...

TT120, I'm sorry, but I have to say I've lost a little bit of confidence in you as oc.com team leader. Be it a slow machine or not, the idea in my head is that you're not devoted to overclockers.com.

William, I think, honestly, you should do us a favor and stay out of the Folding@home board. SpeeDj is mod in here and unless you're editing a profane or otherwise severely inappropriate post (and not for personal reasons) I'd say I'd respect you more if I wasn't seeing your name all over threads in here. I have a lot of trust in Jeremy because I know he's on our side of the fence. You know plenty, you're a great resource, but honestly, we're trying to build a team here and I see your presence as detrimental in that regard.

I feel betrayed. For the last month since I have been back at school, I have recruited people to fold for us every opportunity I get. All this stuff is frustrating. I want to put it behind us and build a TEAM. We're a team. Overclockers.com has played a large part in my education in the hardware field in the last year and I'm trying to give something back. I am asking no less of the people that post in this board. If your hearts are elsewhere, take your posts there.

SickBoy

[AmbientFiction]

Originally posted by SickBoy
I feel like I'm caught in the middle of all this..... I know you guys are good people but, on the other hand, I'm a little disturbed...
TT120, I'm sorry, but I have to say I've lost a little bit of confidence in you as oc.com team leader. Be it a slow machine or not, the idea in my head is that you're not devoted to overclockers.com.

William, I think, honestly, you should do us a favor and stay out of the Folding@home board. SpeeDj is mod in here and unless you're editing a profane or otherwise severely inappropriate post (and not for personal reasons) I'd say I'd respect you more if I wasn't seeing your name all over threads in here. I have a lot of trust in Jeremy because I know he's on our side of the fence. You know plenty, you're a great resource, but honestly, we're trying to build a team here and I see your presence as detrimental in that regard.

I am asking no less of the people that post in this board. If your hearts are elsewhere, take your posts there.

SickBoy

Sickboy you are now in the middle of this because with that statement you put yourself there.

I can not believe some of you people we are helping mankind not a frigging team. I am so F**King tired of this BullS**t of the us and them. I for one am spitting nails right now.

I think if you want to fold just for stats do it but don't F**king post about other people that are trying to get other teams started.

I myself am starting work with another forum as we speak because I am going to try and get a folding team up and then once it up try and get a few other teams to join under one big team and that way for the people that want stat we'll really smoke them and then maybe I won't have to here people craying and b*tching about stats.

<Rant over>
PS If you PM me about this and try and chew me out you will be ignored.

[Allan Nielsen]

Originally posted by Would71
What is happening is this.. a bunch of people turned traitor and left our Folding team.. we're desperately trying to control the damage, but even one of our leaders is working for the other team, so I don't know how well that will work. We have a rogue moderator coming in here and modifying/deleting posts because he's "insulted" (his words) by what I said to the new team on their website.. claiming I've personally attacked someone when I did not, and using that as an excuse to do what he's doing. I have been lobbying for them to remove the front page link to the new site out of respect to those of us who have been with the team since they first posted about Folding@Home, who have some sense of responsibility to give back to the website that has given much to us. I am also officially calling for the removal of all official responsibilities from William, as he is abusing his power for personal gain.. something that they CLAIM they work HARD to avoid. I said NOTHING more than "I may have been mistaken in my recommendation" with regards to the person I pushed for co-leadership of this Folding team, because my MAIN reason for recommending this person was that I thought he devoted all his available resources to THIS team. Now I come to find out he has a machine Folding for the traitor team.

Why do I have such a problem with this? Because I am not normally a team player.. it took me a LOT of effort to get past that and come to this place and join the Folding team, and stay here all this time. If I can do it, as said in my sig, you have no excuse not to. I objected to Kahnza leaving the team just over competition purposes, and I object to everyone else leaving for some new website. According to Emails I've received, this is mostly over this Daniel guy leaving the forums, and I don't care for the personal reasons behind it. Hence, I object. I STRONGLY object.

It is obvious people are leaving. Read your own post, and ask yourself: What do I, would71, achieve from all this?

Moderators don't edit your posts because they object to what you write, they moderate them because you have no control of yourself what-so-ever when you post things like this. It is obvious to me now that I cannot fold for a team with you in it, and I have decided to NOT fold at all for oc.com anymore, despite of what I said earlier on. I feel sad though, because I wanted to help my old team out - but now I simply cannot.

I have a simple question: When I was leading the team, before all this happened, WHY was I not dedicated? I was only folding for oc.com, I dedicated endless hours for the team, yet you claimed I wasn't dedicated. What does it take to be dedicated in your eyes then? :rolleyes:

You cause more damage to this team than anyone who ever left it did.

There was a time where all you could post was "I don't care about stats, just about saving lives". A lot has happened since then, huh??

Oh yeah, go ahead, put me on ignore again, see if I care. I have just about had enough of your rambling, and I suspect others feel the same way.

Good day.

[Allan Nielsen]

TT120, ignore all this.

I'm sure you will lead the team well. Afterall, we are all trying to help mankind here.

[cowanrg]

having read these forums for almost a year now, i think it's appropriate for me to make a comment.

i joined this because i felt it was maybe better to join a team, than just to fold individually.

i fold, on this machine and mine at work. that's what i do when comp is idle. i fold for one team, just because i dont like switching over, or messing with it. i just like keeping it all in one group.

i don't see why this post is the way it is?! why cant you guys just get over it. we are folding here, for science, AND for stats. i bet money that if they didnt keep track of stats, there would be a lot less of us. its not a bad thing... it's just how it it.

if tt120 wants to fold for another group, we cant stop him. do we agree with him as a leader? well, in my book a leader should be completely devoted to what he leads. he, of all the members, should be the role model.

but, aside from everything else, it seems like many people need to realize that even though the stats are NICE, we aren't EVER going to win anything. and, more importantly, a team consists of devoted members. you cant be a team of all the members dont care about the team. give us a reason to care.

[TT120]

Ok, everyone needs to calm down, take a step back and realize that this is not worth getting this upset over.

I have give this much thought and Would71 and Sickboy are right as far as me folding for another team, it's not right and I will stop immediately. I will have to figure out how to tell them without sounding like I was forced to do that.

As far as some people that want to change teams, thats their perogative and they should be allowed to do whatever they choose without everyone getting mad. They are still the same people that we became friends with.

Ambiant, I understand your reasons for being upset as well. You have to understand why they are feeling betrayed. It comes from a sense of community that we have built up here and when a member decides to concentrate their energy elsewhere, it can be very upsetting. Change is inevitable and some people have to make changes in their life to keep it interesting.

This is should NOT be an us against them issue, rather, it should be an us AND them thing.

I'm sorry if I made anyone mad and hope this rant will help fix that situation. I did not say or do this because I felp pressured but because I thought about it and felt it was the right thing to do. NOBODY makes me do anything I dont want to do. Except maybe my mom. :D

Chill out guys, it's all good.

Bill.

[SickBoy]

Originally posted by AmbientFiction


Sickboy you are now in the middle of this because with that statement you put yourself there.

I can not believe some of you people we are helping mankind not a frigging team. I am so F**King tired of this BullS**t of the us and them. I for one am spitting nails right now.

I think if you want to fold just for stats do it but don't F**king post about other people that are trying to get other teams started.

I myself am starting work with another forum as we speak because I am going to try and get a folding team up and then once it up try and get a few other teams to join under one big team and that way for the people that want stat we'll really smoke them and then maybe I won't have to here people craying and b*tching about stats.

<Rant over>
PS If you PM me about this and try and chew me out you will be ignored.

Well, since I'm gonna get ignored if I PM you, I guess I'll just make it public and it'll be up to you to ignore.

Check my post, Ambient. Do you see one cuss word in there? Edited or otherwise? Get some tact, and a vocabulary.

You're a regular old forum member. I don't care where you go. Take your computers, go somewhere else, I won't shed tears. I posted because 2 (mostly just 1) people in prominent positions have lost my trust and I feel that one is hurting our efforts as a team by participating in this topic.

Would71, be it or not that he gets a little flared up every now and then, is a devoted team member and he has my respect until the day hell freezes over. I think he's getting picked on quite a bit, simply for the fact that he's calling out everyone who isn't devoting themselves to our effort. I have put way too much into overclockers.com to turn my back and watch as a moderator and several other members hurt us IN OUR OWN FORUM. I think there are a lot of people who agree with me but who aren't willing to speak up because the "popular" opinion right now is not care about our team's impending demise. Do you want me wandering into your forum and starting stuff with people in there? I would think that you wouldn't, and I'm going to stay out of your forum as a matter of respect to you. Why is it so hard for people to understand respect? Yeah, we're all folding for the good of humanity, but honestly, this AOA vs. OC.com thing IS very much RIDICULOUS! If we're going to try and cut someone else's feet out from under them, why not [H]? By creating all of this infighting we're only helping them pull farther and farther away. I'm just trying to get those of you who have left to do just that - leave. And respect us and our efforts. That's all I want.

SickBoy.

PS Anyone who PM's me will NOT be ignored. I respect and will honestly and tactfully answer any questions sent to me in a PM.

[Wa11y]

Christ, people! This is a website and a folding team, not a wife! Get over the whole "devoted" thing and learn to live outside your (computer) box!

Would, I understand your anger, but let it go! You're gonna give yourself an ulcer over this, and it's not worth it! The simple fact of the matter is that there is still folding going on, and it's for the good of mankind, not for the good of OC.com, or AOA.com.

Last thing we need is a Jihad between folding teams!

[Newbie_Doo]

Originally posted by TT120

I have give this much thought and Would71 and Sickboy are right as far as me folding for another team, it's not right and I will stop immediately. I will have to figure out how to tell them without sounding like I was forced to do that.

Bill.

Bill,

You say just what you said here: That as a team leader, dividing loyalties isn't right. Whatever pressures others have brought to bear, it is still your decision though and you need to live with the decisions you make.

Those of you who would like William to stay out of here, please hear this: William was promoted to his position as Moderator *AFTER* it was known that he was involved in other projects. He was and is a valued member of Overclockers.com and will continue to remain so for as long as he continues to contribute in his usual caring way. The Moderator staff is fully supportive of him and these accusations of "Rogue Moderator" will stop right now.

As a matter of Forum Policy, ALL Flames and profanity directed at another will be edited, regardless the source. If anybody has a problem with this, get over it. This is not going to change. The rules will continue to be enforced by those charged with doing so, until and unless this site ceases to exist, after which it will not matter.

If anybody has any other issues that they wish to discuss about the rules or the personnel, you know how to get in touch with me. I always reply.

Anthony

[sfa ok]

This isn't good for our team at all. Would, you're saying that you don't care about stats, only the folding, yet when people continue folding and switch to another team, you call them traitors. Let people do as they wish. I have almost half my cpu time going to SETI. Does that make me a traitor? I know that many of the people who left consider Dan to be a friend, and want to help him get his site and team off the ground. Just because they don't fold for us doesn't mean that they shouldn't be here in the forum. I go to the AOA folding forum and post. Please calm down, yelling at each other will only make team members grow farther apart.

[Ebola]

i dont know whats going on. heck i dont care. im back and i'm folding again.

[thefly]

Fold on Ebola!

[NedClocker]

Did someone get the name wrong?

http://foldingathome.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/search?q=Cowanrg

[cowanrg]

my nick is:

cowanrg (www.overclockers.com)

and 60 of those WU's are mine from the last 3 days.

dont know what the other 2 are...

[T. J.]

OK, I just added a client on one of my boxes for cowanrg. As soon as the two clients already working on that box are finished, I will devote it's entire output to cowanrg through Wednesday. Sorry to get in late; I didn't see this thread until I got home from work tonight. I think my 1.4 can support another client as well, which I will run along side my own two clients to make up for lost time.

[Taylor]

Originally posted by Would71
The "rogue moderator" bit will NOT stop, as he is abusing his powers. He edited one of my messages that had NO flame and NO profanity whatsoever. He's operating on personal bias, based on the nasty message I left to them in their forum yesterday. You people in charge CLAIM that you take "extensive measures" to make sure that your staff does not act out of personal bias. Well, he did. Let's see you do something about it. Remove him as moderator for abusing his powers. Otherwise, you are nothing but hypocrites in charge here.

attention Would71:

In the big picture, team scores do not matter even a little bit. All that matters is that the work gets done.

You think normal reactions to your aggressive actions indicate unwarranted personal vendettas.

Most of your posts are flames, and when people call you on them, no matter how politely, you accuse them of picking a fight.

Look at how you insulted Alan! And William, and TT120!!! And many others...you're alienating people left and right!

I've seen this type of behaviour in users of methamphetamine.

You have got to take a look at yourself.

You're in a downward pain-spiral.

You've got to get a grip on reality man, you're killing yourself.

This is not a flame, Wouldy. This is a plea for you to wake up and smell the coffee.

[Taylor]

Originally posted by Would71
I hope this guy isn't posting in response to me yet again.. it seems some people just don't get the meaning of:

This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]


My point exactly!
hehe. Your ignore list must be getting pretty big, eh?

That's an indication that you're alienating people.

[Taylor]

Originally posted by Would71
I'm wondering if this guy knows that there are laws against cyber-stalking..

See, you prove my point again. When you flame any of a dozen people, in your eyes it's just fine- but when anyone responds to your aggression, they're a cyber-stalker.

[TT120]

Ok, this needs to stop NOW.

Please everyone, Would71 included, let it go. None of this is getting us anywhere. The best thing to do right now is stop reading these posts, Whats done is done. To the future is where we should be looking not the past.

Would71, your ignore list is growing, think about that for a minute. Is that how you want it to be? Is that why you came here in the first place? Not one single person on this forum signed anything that said the could not go anywhere else and do their thing.

Everyone else, dont get on someones case for having a different opinion about certain issues. Everyone is entitled to have a different opinion and just because they express it in a way you dont particularly like, dont bash 'em for it. After all, it's that exact quality that makes this forum a great place to be.

Can't we all just get along? ;)

[DeepScience]

If would posts one more stupid message going on about "traitors" , "rogue moderators", "cyber stalking", or go on about how he isn't a team player (how wonderful) then I am going to leave too. Is he American?

[Newbie_Doo]

You know, Would71...I have put you on ignore.

If anybody else is tired of the rantings, then I suggest that you follow the example so impressively set by Would71 and ignore him as he ignores us.

Anthony

[skip]

It's time everyone back off and cool down. And Yes, I DO contribute to the team.

This whole thread has been nothing but members of the same team taking cheap shots at each other. A total dis-regard for any rules that we have setup.

If this keeps up I will start locking accounts. Those of you know who you are. If you don't like what I said, you can leave now.

This thread is closed.