water cooling please help!

[phear]

Hi i am wanting to water cool but my parents keep sayin while u live here you aint havin water in u comp! even tho its my comp and i bought it! i was going to get a heater core from a reckers, a water pump from a local pet store, a home made water block, ive shown them tons of stuff i have saved off the net but they just wont have a bar of it! any 1 have any ideas of how i may be able to convince them? and i even said unwillingly that i would run it out of my comp just the waterblock and a small amount of hose in the comp!

Please Help!

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AMD 1.4Ghz Thunderbird
coolermaster hsf
Temp : 22C amb / 28C mobo idle / 45C CPU
20gig wd 7200RPM
30 gig wd 7200RPM
16x pioneer slot load dvd Rom
2x4x24CDR
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[RedDeathDrinker]

Hi phear, welcome to our madness.....!


If your folks are against water cooling, why not start with assembling the water cooling system on its own, and then showing them the completed article. A well made system should pass even the most critical parents eye......

Find out why they object (exactly why!) and then offer your response, trashing their objections as you go......in a sensible mature manner :D


But alas! If they still object, why not think about massive air cooling?

[kevin_bouchard]

I am also in the same boat(but about something else) I gave up though because I started off wrong. The last thing you want to do is push them to the edge, give them time to think most of the time that works for me.
You can also reverse the situation by making them force you to go with watercooling(that is what i did), just add a couple high pitched fans and 2 or more blowers(that make that wooshing sound) and unscrew one of your sides slightly so it makes that rattling sound. If this doesnt make them change there minds about watercooling then I dont know what will.

Oh ya, if they say that your pc is cold enuff and doesnt need watercooling then take off the side of your case, turn off all your case fans(except for psu fan and hsf), overclock your cpu about 10%, boost the voltage and open up as many programs as humanly possible (with avoiding crashing) and run it like that for about 10mins til your cpu climbs at a temp of around 65c-70c and tell your parents to touch the heatsink. If you cant reach temps that high then just stop the hsf from spinning til it reaches that temp.
Also this is for a amd cpu(no intels) since amd get :mad: faster and can take the heat(not for long periods of time though).

Hope this Helps:D

BTW I cant be held responsible for your actions if you decide to follow these instructions, do at your own risk and should be done onl;y as a last resort.

Good Luck

[.. AE 86 ..]

haha
i just bought my watercool kit without informing them
they just kept asking if it will leak
the problem is not on the computer, they are afraid that it will catch fire and burn down the house... LOL !
and i had 6 case fans and FOP38... it was so loud that they never bother coming into my room

[VashTheStampede]

My parents' are the same way. Though my dad actually researched it, though the sites he went to contained overclocked PCs using watercooling, and he tried to convince me I wouldn't get any cooler than this super mini orb I got in here.

I beat him out on that debate, now he's hammering me with leaks and what if I fry my PC. My mom doesn't care, she's barely computer literate anyway, she's just happy that I'm more excited about cooling my PC down than I was over an science project back in high school.

Only way to convince them, is to prove them wrong, I say. Show your parents the new temps, the quietness of your watercooled PC, the room temperature difference now that you don't have several high powered fans sucking all the cool air from the room.

~RT~

[train22]

Humm, that's a tuffy...
Depends how hard it is to crack your parents... some will, some won't. Best way to go bout it if I were in your shoes, and believe me I'd like to be in your small paw shoes, heh... I'd get a recording of a fan, hide a speaker inside the case and play it on full volume, make it sound real, very possible, very effective! That should crack itself, your job is done.

[phear]

thanks for all of your input and if any one has any more ideas ide love to hear them! i have been on their backs for around a week and they are getting sooo ****ed and stressed at me as im on there backs 24/7 well exept when im at work!

they keep saying its in the AMD specs.... all the usual bull**** what if it leaks..... so ive said well ill run it outside the box and on the water block ill superglue, silicon seal and put hose clamps on the hoses but there still bitching bout it!

dad made me get 2 more case fans last night 2x80mm and before i put them in i put her back to 1400 as per usual and then booted up ran some heat progs then wrote down temps then overclocked her to 1470 and booted and it was 2C hotter! so dad goes well try putting fans in diff positions .... all this bull**** and i said its not gonna work i cant get temps below 22C amb, 27C mobo, 44C CPU surfin net, winamp.....

Jamie

[Random Nonsense]

your lucky! at least they will think rationally about it.... my dad refuses to believe a tbird priduces 90 watts of heat at 1400 mhz or whatever!!! aparantly its about 3 watts..... go figure... i spose we are all imagining what we saw happened on tomshardware when they tried a tbird without HSF.....

[killem1x1]

One more thing you can add to your arsenal. Explain the power savings by not needing all of the fans you have running now, I'd even leave the case off, and explain I need a big boxfan to extend the life of my cpu if I can't watercool :)

[kevin_bouchard]

Hey phear your temps are better than mine and i am only running a duron 800@950, how many fans do you have in your case right now?
Oh what you can do is over overclock it so that it gets unstable and tell your dad or mom to go on and when it crashes they will ask what the problem with your pc and tell them its too hot!
If your pc was to break would you be the one paying for it or would it be your parents.
And also tell them that amd recommendations are the bare minnimum for cooling and that air can only go so far when it comes to cooling.

[Mad_Capr]

I like the suggestion of building the system and showing them that it doesn't leak. Put the watercooling parts together outside of the computer and run it for about 2 weeks to prove that it won't leak.

Also explain to them that this will extend the life of your cpu.

[Autolectrician]

I would think the fact that u want to try to accomplish such a feat would change there minds. What a learning experience... I for one would not stop my child from achieving such a goal! since u are building it from scratch just put it together and run it outside your machine for a week or so to prove your craftmanship once proven they can't say no! then if they give in? just run it when u are home for a while to ease there minds. just another idea!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD LUCK!

[!-=sky=-!]

just run your comp with a few delta 7krpm fans and add 6 case fans on top of that...open cased
you will get your parents very mad...it sounds like a jet!

my parents said i shouldnt do this but i ignored them anyways
since they won't let me use anything they have in the house so i bought my own stuff

i went to buy my pump yesterday and the people there asked me why would i need a pump to cool down my computer? he said he thought fans were enough but then i said we do it for fun
hahaha
he was surprised

[kevin_bouchard]

overclocking, modding and extreme cooling is all about fun:D

[phear]

i finally cracked them! i bought a pump(600L) and a heater core out of a radiator! im making a water block, may consider buyin one soon! i hope to get it all assembled by monday and run it all day and look for leaks etc... thanks for all your input ill let you know how it turnes out!

Jamie