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cetoole
04-27-05, 06:34 PM
Overview
I have seen many people asking which headphones (cans) to get, so hopefully this will help clear up some questions you might have. There is no one best headphone, because you have to take into account price, portability, purpose, ease of powering, and most important, sound. All headphones do not sound the same, and as surprising as it might be, the earbuds that come with your iPod don't sound great. Almost all headphones included with Portable CD Players (PCDPs), Digital Audio Players (DAPs), and any other devices tend to sound quite bad, with few exceptions.

Companies
Koss: Koss is not the company who you would think of when looking for headphones, but they have some that are quite good, especially in the budget area. If you want inexpensive headphones that sound good, Koss is the way to go. They tend to be "fun" headphones to listen to, best suited for music. The most recommended Koss for budget use is the KSC-75.
Grado: These headphones tend to be a great bang for the buck, and are best suited for music, especially Rock and Metal, but still quite good for everything. Not the best gaming cans, as they don't have the best soundstage, so won't be as good for positioning as other choices. They leak sound, so aren’t the best option for noisy areas or places like libraries where other people will be disturbed by your music. Grados tend not to require an amp to drive, but there is an improvement. Some people find them a bit uncomfortable to wear, but they are light, sit on the ears, and have many different pads that can be swapped to change the sound and comfort. The SR-60 is one of the headphones I recommend most to people.
Alessandro: Alessandro is basically the same thing as Grado, as they take Grado cans and slightly tweak them. While Grado is intended for the consumer market, Alessandro is more for Professionals. They sound very similar, and some people prefer them to the comparable Grado and some prefer the Grados.
Sennheiser: Sennheiser makes some excellent headphones, and are probably one of the most, if not the most popular audiophile headphones. Known by many to make high quality products, they offer cans oriented to every market. The Sennheiser sound tends to be laid back, and some people find them boring, but they are quite detailed, have a good soundstage, making them great for gaming and video, as well as music, and they tend to be quite comfortable. Higher end Sennheisers often need an amplifier to sound great, as they are high impedance and very hard to drive from the headphone out of most devices. Most of the higher end Sennheisers are open designs, letting sound in and out, so are not the best choice for noisy areas or places like libraries where other people will be disturbed by your music. While Sennheiser has discontinued them, the best headphones ever in many people's books were made by Sennheiser, the legendary Orpheus, which was an Electrostatic headphone (HE-90) and tube amp (HEV-90) combination that retailed for over $10,000. While I have not heard them, I have heard the HE-60 "Baby Orpheus", and they are by far my favorite headphones.
Audio-Technica: These headphones are a bit hard to get, the most common place is from Audio Cubes (http://www.audiocubes.com), an importer who ships the headphones from Japan. They are quite good, and very popular at the moment. While being some of the largest headphones around right now, they are surprisingly easy to drive, unlike the comparable Sennheisers. They don't need a special amp, but like most headphones, benefit from one. Generally a closed design, the isolation is not great, but much better than open designs. They are great for gaming, music, and video usage, having a wide soundstage that allows for good positioning.
Sony: Until very recently, cheap Sony headphones were quite poor, but that seems to have changed with the introduction of the XD line. Before this, only the MDR-V6 was worth a look without being too expensive. Sony also has some high end cans that are quite good. The MDR SA5000 is very popular right now with audiophiles, being very detailed, and many people have sold their Sennheiser HD650 to buy them recently. Sony cans tend to be somewhat of an acquired taste, and it often takes people a while to adjust to them, if they ever do. They often have amazing detail, but that isn't always good, as they reveal any flaws in the system. They should be great for any gaming, music, and video use, if you like them. Again, the cheap Sonys suck, Streetstyles are not good.
Bose: While it hurts me to include this company here, people must be warned. Like all of their products, Bose headphones, the Triports and Quiet Comforts (QCs), are not good, and have a tendency to break. They are grossly overpriced, to the point that the general consensus on Triports is that they would be fairly priced around $40. The noise canceling on the QCs isn't great, you are much better off getting some passive isolation cans, like Shure, Etymotic, or closed headphones, like HD280. Bose is not recommended, stay far away.
Shure: Shure makes some great canal phones, also known as In Ear Monitors or IEMs. They physically block sound, giving great isolation, but many people don't like the way they feel, as they sit in your ear canal. The cheaper Shures, like the E2c, don't sound great, but are much better than stock. Shure IEMs tend to have rolled off highs, but are pretty decent, and the E3c is much better than the E2c. Shure is about to come out with some new IEMs, the E4c, which, from the early reviews I have seen, are supposed to be great, and beat many IEMs costing more than they do, including possibly, the E5c which is the top Shure available. Basically, I only recommend Shure and any IEM for people looking for noise isolation. If you are flying, riding the bus, or anywhere that is noisy, they are great, just don't get run over by a car while walking around with them. The canalphone of choice for rock/metal/rap/electronic music.
Etymotic: Etymotic, or Ety, is another company who makes high end IEMs, which have the characteristic of being incredibly detailed, but very weak on the bass. They have greater isolation than Shures, and sound very good, but again, many people don't like them, and I recommend them for the same type of use as Shures and every IEM. Not ideal for rock/metal/rap/electronic music because of the weak bass, but great for classical, jazz, acoustical music.
Beyerdynamic: Beyer make some great cans, which are good for gaming, music, and movies, and famous for their monsterous bass. Described by some as sounding similar to the Sennheiser house sound, but with more bass. Definitly worth a look at.
Zalman, Labtec, and other "Gaming" or computer headphones: These tend to be overpriced, sound quite bad, and are gimmicks. Surround headphones are only for gaming, and they are still beat by many of the headphones above. I can't recommend any, and if you need a Microphone, get a separate one to use with the headphones you end up getting.

Types of Headphones
Circumaural: This type of headphone goes around your ears, and is generally quite comfortable, but large. They can be either open or closed, both of which have benefits. Examples are Sennheiser HD580 (open) and Audio Technica A900 (closed).
Supraaural: This type of headphone sits on your ear, like the stock headphones that come with many cheap cd players that have a band that goes over your head. They are much smaller than circumaural, but many people find them uncomfortable. This design tends to be open. An example is all Grados without the new circumaural pads.
IEM or Canalphone: Just what they sound like, this type of headphone goes in your ear canal, physically blocking sound much more than most other headphones. Origionally used by musicians while performing on stage, they have now come down to the consumer market, with even some inexpensive offerings from larger companies, like Sony. The consumer IEMs tend to isolate much less than professional models, but still block some sound. Some people find them uncomfortable, since it is a piece of foam or plastic in your ear. Examples are the offerings from Shure and Etymotic.
Earbuds: Often found bundled with cd players and daps, most tend to be low quality. Similar to IEMs in that they sit in the ear, earbuds don't penetrate the canal, so don't block sound out nearly as much. The most common is the stock ipod buds.
Open Headphones: Open headphones simply referrs to headphones where there is no solid barrier between the driver and the rest of the world. Open headphones tend to give a great sound for less money than closed, but offer almost no sound isolation in either direction, so you can hear the surrounding environment while wearing them, and people in the same room can hear what you are listening too. This can be benificial if you can't afford to be isolated from the world, but often gets annoying in noisy environments.
Closed Headphones: Closed headphones have the driver sealed from the outside, blocking some sound in and out. Not all provide great isolation, but it is much better than open headphones. The sound has a tendancy to not be quite as good for the price as open, especially with models offering high levels of isolation, but this is not a rule, as anyone who has heard good IEMs (Ety ER4) will tell you.

Price Ranges
Under $50 Headphones
There are not many great headphones under $20, but there are some that are quite good, and not what you would expect. Koss manufactures some headphones that are thought of by many on Head-Fi to be the best inexpensive headphones available by far, and they are sold quite cheaply. All of these use basically the same driver, so the only real difference is the housing. All are quite easy to drive, and are described as "fun" headphones. Also, the Sharp MD33, which, while being a bit hard to find, is thought of as being quite good. These are canal phones, which, as the name indicates, sit in your ear canal. They block a decent amount of noise, but not nearly as much as more expensive In Ear Monitors (IEMs). All of the headphones in this section are general use and easy to drive, so I suggest just choosing the headphones that are your favorite in style. If you want me to make one suggestion, for the money, the KSC-75 is the way to go, unless you need some isolation from the ambient noise, in which case the MD33 or EX81 will be best for you. If you are willing to spend a little more, the Sennheiser HD212 and HD497 are good, as are the new Sony XD line, and should be the best choices for gaming in this category.

Koss KSC-75 - Under $20
Koss KSC-35 - Under $20
Koss KSC 50 - Under $20
Koss KSC 55 - Under $20 - (warning, many find these uncomfortable, especially people with large heads)
Koss Sportapro - Under $30
Koss Portapro - Under $40
Sharp MD33 - $40 - Hard to get, only place I know of is Audio Cubes (http://www.audiocubes.com). Canalphone but much less isolation than Shure/Ety IEMs
Panasonic RP-HJE50 - Under $20 - Canalphone, but much less isolation than Shure/Ety IEMs
Sony XD200 - Under $30
Sony XD300 - Under $50, but probably not worth it for the price increase over the XD200
Sony EX81 - Under $50, canalphone but much less isolation than Shure/Ety IEMs
Sennheiser MX300 - Under $10
Sennheiser MX400 - Under $15
Sennheiser MX500 - Under $20
Sennheiser HD201 - Under $20
Sennheiser HD212 - Under $50
Sennheiser HD497 - Under $50

$50 - $100
In this price range, headphones start to become quite good and you start having to look at the application when making decisions. The styles become more varied, and the sound quality is much better. Companies such as Grado, Sennheiser, and Shure start to have high quality headphones in this level. Alessandro is basically the same thing as Grado, just tuned slightly differently, but if you like Grado, you will like Alessandro. For gaming, I would choose the MDR-V6, XD400, or the HD280, but if you can stretch your budget a little, the AT A500 is going to be much better.

Grado SR-60 - About $70
Grado SR-80 - About $95
Alessandro MS-1 - About $100
Sennheiser HD280 - Under $90
Sony XD400- Under $70
Sony MDR-V6 - Under $80
Shure E2c - Under $80 - IEM, very good isolation, not nearly as good as the higher end IEMs, my current portables

$100-$200
This is where headphones start becoming amazing, and all of the choices I list sound great. At this level, you will start wanting an amp, and some of the cans really need an amp. All are much more refined than the headphones lower in the product line. For gaming, the A900 is probably the best, but the HD580 and HD595 are still excellent choices.

Grado SR-125 - Under $150
Grado SR-225 - Under $200
Sennheiser HD580 - Under $180 - Needs an amp to shine, also, the main headphones I own
Sennheiser HD595 - Under $200 - Easier to drive than the HD580, more "up front"
Sennheiser PX250 - Under $150 - Really the best choice for active sound cancelation
Audio-Technica A500 - Under $120
Audio-Technica A900 - Under $200
AKG K501 - Under $200
Shure E3c - Under $130 - IEM, very good isolation
Etymotic ER6i - Under $140 - IEM, very good isolation

$200-$500
When you are at this level, headphones sound great, but you will possibly ask yourself if the improvement are worth it over the last category, unless you are a true audiophile and rich. They are definitely good, but it can be hard to tell if new headphones are upgrades or just a different sound. Really, I would not feel safe buying headphone in this level without hearing them, unless you have read a lot, and heard the headphones lower in the line you are looking at to be sure you like the sound. There are some companies that allow you to audition the headphones for around 30 days, and if you are buying blind, I would go for this. For gaming, the SA5000, CD3000 or HD650 is probably the best choice.

Grado SR-325i - Under $300
Alessandro MS-2 - Under $300
Sennheiser HD600 - Under $250 - Too close to HD580 to be worth it IMO, shares the same drivers
Sennheiser HD650 - Under $400
Beyerdynamic DT770 - Under $230 - The can for bassheads
Sony MDR CD3000 - Under $380
Sony MDR SA5000 - Under $450
Shure E4c - Price not set, but probably under $220, IEM, very good isolation
Shure E5c - Under $500, but wait for reviews of the E4c before buying
Etymotic ER4p/s - Under $220, IEM, amazing isolation
Westone UM2 - Under $330, IEM, preferred by some to ER4 and E5c

Over $500
There are many headphones over $500, such as those from Stax, Sony, Sennheiser, Grado, AKG, and many others, but if you are looking at buying any of these, you really need to hear them first, and look at Head-Fi. I have heard some of these, the Sennheiser HE60, Stax Omega II, Stax SR404, Sony Qualia, AKG K1000, and several others, but I don't feel qualified to choose for you. I am willing to discuss these and any other headphones though, as are the great people of Head-Fi.

Amplification
While virtually all headphones benefit from it, for some, it is critical. There are many choices, ranging from tiny portables to huge home systems, and they can be quite inexpensive or very costly. Many people build their own amps (me), and if you know what you are doing, this can be a fun and inexpensive way to get a high quality amp. Headphones like Sennheiser HD580 and up require an amp to sound great, but even something simple like a DIY CMoy makes a huge difference. Prices depend on features and component choice, as well as if it is home built or commercial.

CMoy - $20-$50. This is often built by individuals, and is quite easy, and if you are planning on building any higher amps, it is highly suggested that you start with is one.
Pimeta - $90-$150. Much nicer amp, and you have the option of building yourself or hiring someone to build it for you.
Mint - $60-$100. Also done DIY, there are people who will build them for sale. It is basically a stripped down Pimeta with more SMD parts, designed for portable use.
PPA - $150-$300. Nicer than the Pimeta, and usually a home amp. Version 2 is out, and has some nice improvements.
M^3 - $150-$300. Very nice amp, either home built or comissioned. Not for portable use, and the sound is amazing.
Dr. Xin's amps - Several different types, check out his (http://www.fixup.net) site.
SR-71 - $400. Very good commercial portable amp.
Dynahi - Either home built or commerical, this is probably the best solid state amp available. Usually costs over $1000 commercially, potentially less if built yourself, but very difficult.
There are many other amps available, but this should be enough for a start. If you have any questions, ask, or go to Head-Fi.

Mortis03
04-27-05, 11:44 PM
Whoa, well, let me be the first to say congrats and thank you for putting something like to this togther

Ryan T
04-28-05, 02:05 AM
VERY good job cetoole! I say sticky.


Ryan

SavageBasher
04-28-05, 05:59 AM
Stickeh!

Bleed
04-28-05, 07:09 AM
Sticky! :D

musawi
04-28-05, 07:29 AM
No Plantronics?

Cyrix_2k
04-28-05, 07:49 AM
Sticky!

BTW, depending on how things go, I may ordering the A900's in a few days :D

JKrepps
04-28-05, 08:37 AM
Starting to look at headphones as part of my new build, thanks for putting this together.
Was looking at the Zalman "surround" set, glad I checked this out first.


Another request for sticky ;)

Bathroom Monkey
04-28-05, 08:48 AM
I would say sticky, but this thread is pure opinion. It's all the speculation of one person, and nothing really to back it all up.

Sound preference is vastly different from person to person. It's really difficult to bench one set of headphones against another. You can compare prices, but brand quality is pushing it. It's all really personal preference. And unless you've owned all of these products, it's really hard to speculate on quality of sound, performance, product durability, etc. etc.

I work in this business, but don't take my word for it.

It is a nice compilation though :)

Bleed
04-28-05, 11:00 AM
Sticky!

BTW, depending on how things go, I may ordering the A900's in a few days :D


if your not a basshead, then you'll love the A900's. got a pair myself and im loving every minute of it :D.

Vrykyl
04-28-05, 06:33 PM
brilliant guide, usefull for folks looking for a helpfull pointer in the right direction :)
@bathroom monkey - ALL sound equiptment choices come down to opinion, as whilst a cpu may perform consistently for everyone, speakers/headphones will always sound more/less pleasing to different ears ;)

Iv just got me a set of sennheiser pc150's - not exactly audiophile headphones but i needed a mic - they sound great and the mic is so crisp :)

Voodoo Rufus
04-28-05, 10:07 PM
You obviously put some effort into this post cetoole. Nice job.

I've got a pair of Koss R/80s driven by a DIY stereo/headphone amp, and they are pretty good quality sound-wise, not always the most comfortable though. The detail they bring out is about as good as my dad's Klipschorns, but with better high frequency extension.

musawi
04-29-05, 08:43 AM
I thought plantronics were very good but I guess im wrong.

zabomb4163
04-29-05, 09:24 AM
Another request for sticky ;)

I pm'ed 2 moderators.

madcow235
04-29-05, 01:50 PM
Well since you really didn't say anything about Beyers I will.

Beyers have a very senn like sound, laid back and not overly agressive. However they have a MONSTROUS low end. The Beyers 880's are BASS MONSTERS! They are relatively efficient, not like a grado but still pretty good, so they can be listened to through a decent headphone jack at good levels. The pads are also the god like

cetoole
04-29-05, 02:04 PM
Well since you really didn't say anything about Beyers I will.

Beyers have a very senn like sound, laid back and not overly agressive. However they have a MONSTROUS low end. The Beyers 880's are BASS MONSTERS! They are relatively efficient, not like a grado but still pretty good, so they can be listened to through a decent headphone jack at good levels. The pads are also the god like
Thanks a lot, I havn't had much time with them at all. Also, thanks all for the support.

Adrayic
04-29-05, 02:12 PM
excellent thread.

-Adrayic

Bleed
04-30-05, 08:54 AM
madcow, have you tried the DT990's? its supposed to be a bit refined than the 880.

finally, this got stickied :D.

madcow235
04-30-05, 04:39 PM
No i just heard my friends 880s and they were very nice. I actually am looking into getting a pair for comfort and the bass.

TehMize
05-21-05, 02:28 AM
Thanks, excellent thread. Great job.

Emon
05-27-05, 11:45 PM
A note about Plantronics. Plantronics makes great communications headsets. Their headsets may be decent for gaming, but not the great sound quality of the companies mentioned here.

Bathroom Monkey: Yes, sound is subjective, but I know cetoole and I know he's done a lot of research in his headphone searches. Although it's opinion, the overwhemling majority will tell you that, for example, Bose sucks. Their design, engineering, quality of the entire headphones - right down to the dynamic transducer coils, is rubbish. Unless you're a totally biased Bose-freak-in-denial, you will easily be able to tell that even a cheap pair of Sennheisers or Grados are FAR superior.

Edit: Oh, I'll say something about Beyerdynamics. I haven't heard them yet, but everything I've read on Head-Fi from people who own Beyers and Senns say that they're similar to the Senns, but more neutral, less dark and laid back sounding. Grado headphones, for example, have a signature sound which makes them not so good for some types of music (but INCREDIBLE for rock). Senns sound great for everything, but still have a dark signature sound. Beyerdynamics are supposed to be more "reference" sounding, more neutral, less or no coloration, no special sound signature. At least that's what I've heard about the DT 880 and other high end Beyers. Oh, and when I talk about signature sound, I'm not talking about say, the DT 770's massive bass. Colorized sound generally changes sound overall, not just adds more bass.

SNieX
08-05-05, 06:18 PM
STICKY lol

Cyrix_2k
08-15-05, 03:19 PM
if your not a basshead, then you'll love the A900's. got a pair myself and im loving every minute of it :D.
yea! I have a job now so hopefully I can FINALLY afford these 'phones and the components I need to build my dynalo :)

Two more 'phones to list....

Audio-Technica ATH-M2X:
I can't remember how they sounded stock, but I don't think it was terribly bad for $20. However, they really came to life once I removed the driver "grills" and were further helped by drilling a hole in the sound chamber which effectively makes them open 'phones. Now I think they sound GREAT for $20. They have a very limited sound stage, so imaging sucks, but they work fine for rock/metal. Just be warned, the cable will probably need to be replaced. (It sounds better recabled anyway).

Philips SBC HP-820:
These have an ultra wide sound stage and the highs sounded harsh out of the box. However, after listening to them for a while, the harshness has disapeared and they sound pretty decent now. They are very detailed throughout their frequency range and the bass response is fairly decent as well. These run around $50 and I think I would buy them for that much. (I only paid $16 though :))

oh yeah... both 'phones benefited from being amped. The M2X's bass sounded MUCH better with the amp, and the HP-820 really needs it due to it's lower sensitivity.

Bleed
09-02-05, 06:09 PM
I finally replaced my Sony EX71's, they took a crap on me this week. the wires were deteriorating. I got me an AKG K26P, pretty good for rock. the vocals are very upfront compared to my HD201 which is laid back. One thing I dont like though, is that when its paired with my PA2V2 amp, the sound is muffled, too much bass. without an amp, sounds fine. guess this means I dont have to bring my amp everytime I go out.

mcoleg
09-08-05, 08:57 PM
no one's talking about wireless headphones :(
would be interesting to hear what ppl have to say...

cetoole
09-10-05, 01:50 AM
no one's talking about wireless headphones :(
would be interesting to hear what ppl have to say...
Wireless headphones dont sound very good at all, you can do better with the sub-$20 headphones listed here.

mcoleg
09-10-05, 02:59 AM
cant walk around with wires attached :P

drunkn.bear
09-17-05, 05:25 PM
Are in-ear phones really worth the money? They are really expensive and you can't hear anything going on around you

cetoole
09-17-05, 11:08 PM
Are in-ear phones really worth the money? They are really expensive and you can't hear anything going on around you
That is why people get in ear headphones, because you cant here anything with them on. Imagine that you are on an airplane, bus, or something similar, and there is a bunch of babies screaming and people talking, which would you rather hear, the music, or the babies? In ear headphones allow you to have a (nearly) private listening session while in public, and for that purpose, yes, they are definitly worth it.

autolex84
10-28-05, 05:59 PM
sennheiser all the way!! lol I love my senns

Sancho
12-24-05, 02:10 PM
I have a few phones that I use with my cmoy

BeyerDynamic DT 990 Pro 600ohm -One of the best headphones I have had the pleasure of using, so good I decided to buy a pair :) They are really comfortable, can be driven quite well off of the amp. Reproduce better than some of the more expensive senn's I've used etc.

Senheiser HD265 Linear - Very comparable to the Beyer's. These definently clamp to your head more, very tight seal and excellent bass response due to the closed design. These are very active, hard to fall asleep with these on.

Phillips HP170 - My first pair of decent cheap headphones, however, in retrospect they lack extension and have pitiful bass response when compared to the two above

I list only those as I have had the oppurtunity to use those for more than a few days at a time and make subjective comparrisons based on those.

steel102
12-31-05, 12:09 PM
no one's talking about wireless headphones :(
would be interesting to hear what ppl have to say...

yeah from what i've read, most of them get poor reception for a start, and the sound quality is not that great anyways. maybe the only reason to get a wireless phone is for TV watching.

mcoleg
12-31-05, 07:25 PM
from what i've read


common chaps, i need facts, not hearsay :P

happy new years, btw :santa:

steel102
01-02-06, 12:46 AM
well this is the best i can do..

http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134167

Cyrix_2k
01-10-06, 04:27 PM
no one's talking about wireless headphones :(
would be interesting to hear what ppl have to say...
I have a pair of $50 (on clearance for $20) radioshack wireless IR 'phones. Cetoole's right; sub-$20 headphones sound much better. However, for TV watching at night, they work great.

AshlarZiven
01-12-06, 08:49 PM
How would you guys rank the really cheap Kinyo KY100 "5.1" headphones? I bought some for about 30$ from newegg about a year ago. I was pretty impressed with quality : price ratio...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00013BLEK/ref=nosim/104-9375798-8973540?n=172282

johan851
02-15-06, 09:13 PM
Thanks a lot for this sticky. After reading it over Christmas break and doing a lot of research on Head-Fi, I picked up a pair of HD201's. As far as inexpensive headphones go they sound pretty good. Not good enough, of course, so I placed an order a couple of weeks ago for a pair of HD595's. I'm eagerly awaiting their arrival. :D

Mito
02-20-06, 09:11 PM
ok...........

quickie...


what the heck is an amplifier for a headphone????????
never heard of this before.

thx

johan851
02-20-06, 10:48 PM
A lot of high end headphones have a lot of impedance (I've seen as high as 600ohms) that most normal headphones don't have. A device like an iPod or a soundcard can't provide the voltage/amperage that these headphones need to be driven properly, and an amp amplifies the signal to the headphone so that it gets the power requirement it needs. Usually makes it sound a lot better, less distorted, fuller, etc.

mcoleg
02-21-06, 02:14 AM
Thanks a lot for this sticky. After reading it over Christmas break and doing a lot of research on Head-Fi, I picked up a pair of HD201's. As far as inexpensive headphones go they sound pretty good. Not good enough, of course, so I placed an order a couple of weeks ago for a pair of HD595's. I'm eagerly awaiting their arrival. :D

it's addictive, isn't it?

johan851
02-21-06, 09:43 AM
It sort of is, yeah. I got a good deal on some HD595's, and they'll be coming in this week, I think. I'm hoping those will do it for me before I decide I want an amp, some MS-1's, K501's, EMU 0404...:D

Trying to be strong over here.

Mito
02-21-06, 11:20 AM
A lot of high end headphones have a lot of impedance (I've seen as high as 600ohms) that most normal headphones don't have. A device like an iPod or a soundcard can't provide the voltage/amperage that these headphones need to be driven properly, and an amp amplifies the signal to the headphone so that it gets the power requirement it needs. Usually makes it sound a lot better, less distorted, fuller, etc.

Do those headphones come with an amplifier?

I have to buy them separately?

johan851
02-21-06, 11:40 AM
Nope, none do. The amp is a stand alone unit, and you can spend anywhere between $50 and $3000 on one.

I.M.O.G.
02-21-06, 03:58 PM
Thx for the thread. I just bought a pair of Sony XD400 from Newegg which should arrive Thursday.

I wasn't too worried about sound quality, but I wanted something good in this price range, and you really saved me a lot of time looking around. Appreciated.

Mito
02-21-06, 05:19 PM
So how do I know which headphone will need an amp?

For example, the Sennheiser HD580 and HD595, what amp do they need???

Mito
02-21-06, 05:45 PM
Sony MDR-SA3000 Stereo Headphones

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826159051

Does it require an amp???

Cyrix_2k
02-21-06, 06:04 PM
Almost any dynamic headphone will work without an amp. All headphones benefit to some extent from an external amp with some headphones benefitting more than others. Inefficient, high resistance drivers usually mandate a good amp. This includes the HD-580 & HD-600.

C38368
02-21-06, 09:35 PM
it's addictive, isn't it?
It's beyond addictive. I mean, how many pairs of headphones can your average, non-mutant H. sapien listen to at any one time? One. Or two half pairs, if that's your thing. But either way, once you start down the path, forever will it dominate your existence. At least your aural existence.

Run away. Far, far away. And fast. Especially you, johan851, while you still have time ;)

As for amps, almost any dynamic can will benefit to some degree (though I've heard that some, lower end ATs in particular, change but a wee small bit) from an amp. Electrostats, AFAIK, must have an amp to function.

Cyrix_2k
02-21-06, 09:43 PM
I can say for a fact that my AT A900's sound MUCH better with an amp than without. With an amp the bass is much more present and the highs sparkle.

Mito
02-21-06, 10:29 PM
I'm still confused....

mcoleg
02-21-06, 11:37 PM
Mito, those SA3000 won't really need an amp, they are only 70 ohms. i've got sens 555 that are 120 ohm and i can still use them without one. it's not saying that they might not benefit from one but it's not a requirement.

C38368, "beyond addictive" is right... :P

Mito
02-22-06, 12:02 AM
where can I buy those amps?
what are the model names and stuff?

mcoleg
02-22-06, 12:25 AM
there's too many different ones...

try here:

http://www.head-fi.org/

check the adds and banners and also read up the forums. should be a good start.

Mito
03-02-06, 11:02 PM
Guys, have you heard of Sony SA1000?

Thx...

Mito
03-12-06, 07:13 PM
I ordered an Audio-Techinca ATH-A900 from www.audiocubes.com.

Thank you guys for your help.

Cyrix_2k
03-12-06, 10:35 PM
You'll love 'em.

Mito
03-13-06, 12:48 AM
I can say for a fact that my AT A900's sound MUCH better with an amp than without. With an amp the bass is much more present and the highs sparkle.

Do you use an amp even if you connect your ath-a900 to a receiver, for example?

Mito
03-15-06, 12:27 PM
Just received my a900... gonna test them later... can't wait...

EvilT
03-27-06, 02:47 PM
whats the best headphones that have the most bass for 120 and under?

Cyrix_2k
03-27-06, 04:30 PM
Do you use an amp even if you connect your ath-a900 to a receiver, for example?
Not currently. I have an older reciever that the headphones sound great through.

Mito
03-27-06, 05:12 PM
did burn in my ath900.

the sound is superb, the bass incredible.

mcoleg
03-27-06, 09:21 PM
mito, here's a general purpose stereo amp i just got:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000083CUJ/ref=ase_compare123com-20/104-7785685-1054324?s=electronics&v=glance&n=172282&tagActionCode=compare123com-20

TEAC A-1D; i must admit my headphones sound much better with it.

EvilT, check these out:

http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-manufacturer/akg/akg-k-26-p.php

btw, they put mini-reveiwes of the cans they sell, browse that place a bit, there's some good info.

Drop-Top
05-16-06, 04:31 PM
Thanks for this thread, I have been looking for headphones for a while now, and didn't even realize this sticky what here!! :bang head :bang head

I am curious however why there are no USB headphones section on that list. (pardon me if I am wrong, I just searched about 20 of them or so and didn't see any.) I had a pair of Plantronics that were USB and they seemed 100 times more clear and musical than any stereo headphone I have ever heard. I realize that many people are looking for headphones for their portable audio devices, but for someone looking for a computer headphone, I think you left something out. The difference between analog and digital had no need for discussion because we all know how much better digital is in almost all cases. Do you have any ideas some USB headphones?

johan851
05-16-06, 04:34 PM
^ You can't hear digital. Digital audio needs to undergo a conversion to analog in order to be heard, and I don't trust a $3 D/A converter integrated into a pair of headphones to do that for me. Digital isn't better, digital is just different. And digital is completely worthless for lots of things.

Drop-Top
05-16-06, 04:40 PM
^ You can't hear digital. Digital audio needs to undergo a conversion to analog in order to be heard, and I don't trust a $3 D/A converter integrated into a pair of headphones to do that for me. Digital isn't better, digital is just different. And digital is completely worthless for lots of things.

I guess you may be right, I know next to nothing on the subject, however I do know this. A buddy of mine bought a pair of $400 senn's and brought it over to my place. The sound out of my $70 plantronics was much more detailed than his. The sound was much more full (probably because his headphones were that much better) but the detail was not there. I don't know much, but I know that.

SemperFiGuy
06-13-06, 01:48 AM
Thanks a ton for this FAQ, will be looking into a pair of Audio-Technica's in the not-so-distant future. I wanted to add while I was in here that Sennheiser also produces the PC-150 Headset. I've had this headset well over a year and have had no problems, it's perfect for gaming (FPS included), works well for VOIP, and for someone who only uses headphones to listen to music when it's too late to use some booming speakers, these little guys put out some great sound quality. Usually they can be had in the sub $40 range. Let me say, for anyone reading this FAQ looking for a more-than-decent gaming headset, I encourage you to try out a pair of PC-150's.

That being said, stay away from the 160 line, it's just the 150's with a USB adapter that they pawn off at 30$ more than the 150's.

shadowfire1
08-12-06, 01:08 PM
i allways wear headphones on my computer , and im on computer 3+ hours a day. i have had plenty with good sound quality, but they all break after 1-4 months, and have to be super glued and duct taped together , are they any , preferably around the 50$ range that will stay together for a year or 2, i dont abuse my headphones, they just get alot of use.

Maraxus
08-14-06, 01:19 AM
i got some panasonic noise cancelling headphones that cover my ears, they are amazing. IMO they are as good as the bose headphones (they cost almost as much too! lol)

Clockwork_Apple
12-22-06, 10:53 PM
I bought some Sony XD200's for £20 a few months back. They're nice and comfy once you break them in and they make noise, and that's all that matters to me as I'm not an audiophile in the slightest :)

KinesongPayaso
05-21-07, 07:38 AM
AKG K81DJs

Mito
07-12-07, 07:18 AM
still love my ath900, audio-technica rlz!

andylihaha
08-25-07, 02:24 AM
Just got my sennheiser hd280, and had it burnt in.

the sound is crisp and superb.

germanjulian
08-25-07, 03:49 AM
update the shure range. they renamed their products and have a few more ones

Karadhas
08-31-07, 11:36 AM
My plantronics audio .90's are starting to die and I know nothing about sound. In the $30 price range what's the best set of headphones for gaming (positional audio etc)?

johan851
08-31-07, 11:38 AM
Sennheiser HD-201's are great for a budget. I had some for a while, then gave them to my sister. I listened to them a couple of weeks ago and wished I had them back. :)

Karadhas
08-31-07, 12:35 PM
They get good positional audio too?

johan851
08-31-07, 12:58 PM
I would describe the soundstaging as good, yes. For a $20 headphone they have excellent depth. You're not going to find anything better in that price range, for sure.

Schalldampfer
09-18-07, 09:51 PM
Ultrasone PROline 750 probably coming in this or next week.

Zgradis
10-05-07, 01:04 AM
I am looking for some headphones because I can't use my 7.1 sound system anymore. I do enjoy good quality equipment. But I was wondering if any one compared the Sennheiser HD-555's to the 595's, how close are they, its it worth $88 dollars(making my heart stop from great sound quality counts)? I am looking for around 100 dollars (but am not opposed to spend more assuming the worth is there)... But I also was willing to spend about $150 if I got 5.1 which i thought about getting the razer barracuda or the Medusa 5.1 Home Edition (I hear much better things about the Medusa's) But I don't know because I also hear conflicting things, like "the bass is great and very strong" then from another site i hear "the bass is quite disappointing", so I don't know what I should go for. I play A LOT of games (which is a big reason for me to get 5.1's), but at the same time I do enjoy listing to music and having a very well balanced pair of headphone's. But spending $188 on the 595's is kind of worrisome if the 555's are pretty close in comparison. What do you guys think? Are the HD headphones good at reproducing the 5.1 effects with games (ie hearing people walking behind me, to the side of me, and in the event that it happens, on top of me?) Arg I don't know what to do! Help please!


Also for those of you who want to get a headphone amp but don't want to spend a lot of money you can always DIY, here is a great article on DIY headphone amp's, not only some cool looking ones, but some cheap ones that are fantastic;
http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/08/avr_based_headphone_amp.html
http://www.makezine.com/blog/_blog_MAKE_655.jpg

johan851
10-05-07, 10:51 AM
The HD555 and HD595's have a similar sonic signature. The HD595 is supposed to be more refined. It's a difference you can hear if you switch between the two in a fair comparison, I'm sure, but you're not going to see an 88% performance increase. There's probably about a 15% increase or so.

Don't get any kind of 5.1 headphones, please, if you're after fidelity.

mcoleg
10-06-07, 09:55 PM
really, please try and stay away from "5.1" phones. good stereo coupled with some advanced processing for headphones on the sound card will have you covered.

hd555 can be easily driven without an amp; hd595 will need an amp.

btw, if you can live with a bit smaller earpads, check here:

http://www.buy.com/prod/sennheiser-lite-wgt-stud-monitor-headphn-nic/q/loc/111/205713938.html

here's the original thread:

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=261641

these are somewhat bellow 595 but well worth the price.

Zgradis
10-07-07, 05:24 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, I think i'll get the 555's, spec wise the HD25-1 II's look good but they just don't look quite as comfortable as the 555's. Thanks again!

mcoleg
10-08-07, 11:54 PM
good choice, the 555's.

the biggest advantage HD25-1 have over 555 is that they are closed-back (lets say, it's an advantage in some situations...). if you are concerned in any way about isolation and sound leaking, that's something to think about. they are actually pretty comphy as well, not to mention they are modular and upgradeable. on the other hand, 555's do provide a bit better soundstage (read - positional sound). and yah, 555 are very light and comfortable.

Zgradis
10-08-07, 11:57 PM
good choice, the 555's.

the biggest advantage HD25-1 have over 555 is that they are closed-back (lets say, it's an advantage in some situations...). if you are concerned in any way about isolation and sound leaking, that's something to think about. they are actually pretty comphy as well, not to mention they are modular and upgradeable. on the other hand, 555's do provide a bit better soundstage (read - positional sound). and yah, 555 are very light and comfortable.

Thanks for the advice! I am sure i'll poke around in 6 months asking more questions and wanting to upgrade to something even better, spending money I don't even have lol. But you only live once, so why not listen well?

mcoleg
10-09-07, 07:50 AM
yep, that's about right :P

i got me triple.fi's recently (chanced on a limited edition too)... then the es cable for them to fix the mids... them i fitted them with shure's black olives for better insulation... and now i mostly listen to HD25-1 II 'couse i lucked on a good sale for them. all this audio stuff is a bigger money drain than computers, hehe.

i think i'll try stax next :P

Zgradis
10-17-07, 06:34 PM
So i've got my HD555's and i've been listening to them for the last week and i LOVE THEM! I need to get a good sound card (well don't have to but i'd really like to because i know i'd hear a difference) But after they broke in, WOW they sound phenomenal! They are so incredibly clear that I get yelled at by my room mate because he says i listen to my music too loud because he can hear the lyrics in the other room but i only have it up to 60% and as he comes closer and puts them on he realizes they aren't super loud they are just super clear! Now thats not that best thing because I want to respect others, but i can't help that they are open ear... so he decided the fix would be to get a pair of his own because after listening to mine he is hooked :) There was a few things i'd change but only really ascetic.

Sir Barton
10-17-07, 06:38 PM
I need to get a good sound card (well don't have to but i'd really like to because i know i'd hear a difference)

What do you do more often? Game or listen to music? I picked up an Audiotrak Prodigy HD2 last week, and it replaced an E-MU 1212M, which is one of the best music cards out there. I must say, the new Audiotrak beats it good, and it also supports opamp rolling. I ordered some LM4562NA opamps for mine at the same time I ordered it...the sound will only get better. The built in headphone amp isnt bad on the HD2 either.

Mr. Perfect
10-17-07, 11:53 PM
Some very nice reading in here.

Out of curiosity though, what should I look for as far as headsets? The more recommended phones in here are just that, phones with no mic. I'm tired of wearing out the usual cheap headset fare found in stores. :bang head

Stanman16
10-18-07, 12:36 AM
Some very nice reading in here.

Out of curiosity though, what should I look for as far as headsets? The more recommended phones in here are just that, phones with no mic. I'm tired of wearing out the usual cheap headset fare found in stores. :bang head

Well unless you're really concerned about mic quality, most people recommended the zalman clip on mic. I got that with my pair of ATH-A500's and it works fine.

mcoleg
10-18-07, 01:36 AM
sen's pc15x series has an ok mic and the sound out of them is not bad either, if you want a cheap all-in-one. i used a 150 model, i think it's 151 or something now (without usb).

sound wise, not on par with 555 and up, of course, but descent for the price.

otherwise, it's easier to find a good mic separately and pare it up with cans of your choice.

Mr. Perfect
10-18-07, 08:41 AM
Well I'd rather not go "cheap". I've had my fill of cheap. Over the years I've bought and worn out enough cheapies to have simply gotten a quality pair that would have lasted and sounded better to boot.

I was really hoping there was a headset version of the Senn 555s. :( The open design should let me hear what's going on around me while the circumaural design is usually really comfortable. That and everyone seems to like them around here. Are there and headsets like that out there?

mcoleg
10-18-07, 08:54 AM
not that i know of. i don't think any company ever bothered to pin a mic to a set of really good drivers...

than again, depends on what you are coming from. pc15x might sound really good if you never heard anything better; if you have some experience, you might as well go separates to avoid disappointment.

Rattle
11-22-07, 01:59 PM
Is there anything that come close to the 555's thats less expensive?
anything between $20 201's and the $100 555's?
I am going to be getting a new set here in the next couple weeks.

Also with the higher grade sets like the 555 how important is an amp?
Does my audigy 2 zs have any kind of built in headphone amp?
I wouldn't mind buying amp, but have now idea where to get a good one.


http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATHA700-Audiophile-Headphones-Metallic/dp/B000E9VKUQ
I am also looking at these !

mcoleg
11-22-07, 09:16 PM
depends what you'd be using them for. if you game, open-air design might be better for a larger sound stage. like hd555 or ATH-AD700:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CMS0XU/ref=pd_cp_e_2?pf_rd_p=250314601&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000E9VKUQ&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0ME33KGW15TANQRKPM1D

also, with games, the sound quality of the output material won't be greatest anyway. positioning, impact and clarity is something to look for when choosing phones for playing.


if for music, no matter how good the phones are, the quality will be as bad as the weakest link in the chain. i don't know how audigy 2 zs sounds.


as for an amp, you probably shouldn't worry with your choices. an amp is not only for making the sound louder; it's introducing a different sound signature in the chain. so, even if the sound card can drive the phones but you are just not too crazy about how it sounds, you could always try putting an amp in between to improve things. when head-fi is back on-line, you could pick what people mate with what.

johan851
11-22-07, 09:50 PM
as for an amp, you probably shouldn't worry with your choices. an amp is not only for making the sound louder; it's introducing a different sound signature in the chain. so, even if the sound card can drive the phones but you are just not too crazy about how it sounds, you could always try putting an amp in between to improve things. when head-fi is back on-line, you could pick what people mate with what.
Well, sort of. The idea of an amp is to have a circuit that's able to power various loads without distortion. For headphones like the HD-580, the small 'amp' on soundcards generally isn't able to drive the load well at all. The result is poor quality sound. For the most part, sound cards don't have too much trouble powering an HD555 (at least from what I've heard) to reasonable volumes. So...you should be pretty ok with the Audigy. Amps will definitely do a better job, but you may not be able to hear a very big difference. Usually a sound card is good enough for people who aren't super anal. :)

mcoleg
11-22-07, 11:02 PM
are you calling me NOT super anal? :P

johan851
11-23-07, 01:18 AM
I'm giving you the opportunity to not call yourself super anal. I consider myself also not super anal. At least not these days. I'm only as anal as I can afford to be. :P

mcoleg
11-23-07, 04:38 AM
well then, you are a better man than i am :P

Rattle
11-24-07, 08:56 AM
still confused lol, I need to go check some out somewhere but I have no idea where anyone would have them around here.

Zgradis
11-29-07, 04:49 PM
Ok, so I got the 555's a little while back, and I LOVE THEM!!!! They are the best headphoenes for the price, I don't need an amp and I can hear them up TWO flights of stairs clear as day when they are at 80% volume... They are super clear and I can hear people all over the map with no issues. I was even running them off my built in motherboard sound card for a while and they sounded great! They do have a burn in period that you need to let them go through, they sound better and better the more you listen to them, I would recomend leaving them on for a day or two (all day all night) and you will hear a difference. They are super comfortable and if you want something that will last you a long while get the 555's for a 100 dollars you can't go wrong and they are built very well.

Neji415
03-12-08, 09:11 AM
What About Creative.........I mean they're known to be one of the Best in sound...right?
I happen to have the Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headphones......and they're unbelieveable

johan851
03-12-08, 12:55 PM
Creative is known for gaming soundcards that have good onboard processing, and they also make some ok semi-professional PC sound products. They're not really a respected name in headphones. The big names in headphones are Sennheiser, AKG, Grado, Etymotic, and some others.

Zgradis
03-12-08, 02:08 PM
What About Creative.........I mean they're known to be one of the Best in sound...right?
I happen to have the Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headphones......and they're unbelieveable

I will disagree, they sound like a muffled blowhorn.

burningcpu
03-12-08, 08:55 PM
Hah, my headphones broke the other day so I've been listening to $1 walmart earbuds. And they are probably worse than you would expect :o I'm waiting on some HD202's from Newegg.

burningcpu
03-13-08, 10:44 PM
Wow I just got a pair of HD202's and they are awesome. I haven't ever had a good pair of headphones so I wasn't prepared for the difference. Good stuff

Neji415
03-14-08, 12:31 AM
well i dunt know abt the other Creative Headphones but i got the fatal1ty gaming ones for my gaimg.....and they r quite good.......plus i find them really comfy....:D

Cyrix_2k
05-08-08, 09:04 PM
Long term update of sorts on my ATH-A900s. Written for amazon.

I purchased my A900's over two years ago and am still impressed with their performance. I switch between my computer with a sound blaster sound card and an MCS Turntable (Technics) with a Stanton 681 EEE Mk2 cartidge for my source. Both utilize an MCS receiver which makes for a pretty decent headphone amplifier. I have also auditioned the 'phones through an Akai receiver + Technics SL-D202 with an older Audio-Technica cartridge and a higher-end Onkyo reciever with a CD transport.

Overall impressions are excellent. MP3's sound muddy through these headphones, even when encoded at high bit-rates. I don't understand why such a high bit-rate sounds substandard, but it does. The difference between 192 kbps encoding and 320 kbps is readily apparent and I have even A/B tested myself to prove that it was psychological. The difference is really there! Such excellent audio quality comes at a price - no longer will your MP3 collection pass muster nor will poorly mastered albums be tolerated, but the truly excellent albums sound truly amazing! Highs sparkle, lows are tightly controlled and detailed. The middle frequencies are a bit recessed leading to a non-fatiguing and "chilled out" tone. They are perfectly matched to ambient music, classic rock, alternative rock, etc. The Dark Side of the Moon simply sounds amazing! However, this is not to say they don't sound great reproducing other genres as well. I listen to fair bit of electronic music as well and they also sound great! Higher energy music does not have the life sucked out of it, but these headphones are not 'in your face' like Grados. I personally love the Audio-Technica sound (which also seems to have the effect of not pushing defects to center stage, a huge plus when listening to vinyl), but if you listen to high intensity music, perhaps a pair of Grados would be more to your liking.

Comfort is simply amazing. The 3D-Wings are supportive and essentially not felt. You can listen to these for hours with almost no fatigue, the biggest issue being weight. During the summer, they can get a bit hot as well. Isolation is excellent as they are closed cans. It is not as good as what IEMs can provide, but is certainly good for a set of cans.

The bottom line is that these are top drawer cans at a decent price. For something cheaper, I hear the ATH-A700s have 90% of the sound at half the price. They also feature the 3D-wing design.
btw, I also have the HD-202s and while they sound good for $30 headphones, they have *nothing* on the Audio-Technica's!

p00kie
10-12-08, 06:45 PM
How about mentioning AKG products?

Zgradis
10-12-08, 09:14 PM
How about mentioning AKG products?

Ok make a mention :) Do you know a good amount about them? Maybe you can do a small review on a product of theirs that you have?

A15G
10-12-08, 09:30 PM
Wow, headphones for 200+? My headphones were $8 :P/ do you guys use high priced headphones for music editing or something? they cost so much :S

Zgradis
10-12-08, 09:32 PM
Wow, headphones for 200+? My headphones were $8 :P/ do you guys use high priced headphones for music editing or something? they cost so much :S

lol until you've listened to a pair of even 100 dollar head phones, you can't imagine why people spend the money on high end headphones. Try a pair for a week and you'll never go back to anything else.

A15G
10-12-08, 09:47 PM
lol until you've listened to a pair of even 100 dollar head phones, you can't imagine why people spend the money on high end headphones. Try a pair for a week and you'll never go back to anything else.

Hmmm...Thats quite temping hahaha. Know anywhere I can get cheap headphones around $100 like you said? Im wanting to hear the quality myself.

Zgradis
10-12-08, 10:05 PM
Hmmm...Thats quite temping hahaha. Know anywhere I can get cheap headphones around $100 like you said? Im wanting to hear the quality myself.

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD555-HD-555-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B0001FTVDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1223866694&sr=8-1

or

http://www.amazon.com/Shure-E2c-n-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B000E5GKW8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1223866836&sr=1-2

just two random thoughts that came to my head...

But I have the sennheisers and while they sound AWESOME they also loose sound, so people around you hear them. if you have some specific questions let me know :D

johan851
10-13-08, 09:38 AM
Wow, headphones for 200+? My headphones were $8 :P/ do you guys use high priced headphones for music editing or something? they cost so much :S
The HD555's that Zgradis linked you to might be a good intro choice. You might also try something like the Alessandro MS-1's.

If you'd like to try out some good headphones without spending $100, check out the Sennheiser HD201 or the Grado SR-60. Those are both pretty inexpensive, but really good bang for the buck. I gave my sister my HD201's, and she uses them with her iPod. When I asked her if I could listen to her iPod/HD201's (this was after about a year of using modded HD580's and a good DAC, good amplifier, lossless audio files, etc...a few hundred dollars worth of equipment) I was really surprised by how good it sounded. I almost wanted them back!

Zgradis
10-13-08, 09:43 AM
The HD555's that Zgradis linked you to might be a good intro choice. You might also try something like the Alessandro MS-1's.

If you'd like to try out some good headphones without spending $100, check out the Sennheiser HD201 or the Grado SR-60. Those are both pretty inexpensive, but really good bang for the buck. I gave my sister my HD201's, and she uses them with her iPod. When I asked her if I could listen to her iPod/HD201's (this was after about a year of using modded HD580's and a good DAC, good amplifier, lossless audio files, etc...a few hundred dollars worth of equipment) I was really surprised by how good it sounded. I almost wanted them back!

What kind of DAC and amplifier are you using? I was looking to make a portable amp, then my headphones broke so I gave up look, still curious though :D

supra
10-13-08, 12:53 PM
a mini^3 v2 is a really solid portable amp, not much bigger then a cell phone, about 50-60 bucks to build tops, and gets 10-25 hours of battery life depending on your configuration

http://www.amb.org/audio/mini3/

and a hint, if your a student, you can easily get free opamp samples, a few a week, national semiconductor, texas Instruments, and analog devices will even cover the shipping :)

johan851
10-15-08, 08:37 AM
What kind of DAC and amplifier are you using? I was looking to make a portable amp, then my headphones broke so I gave up look, still curious though :D
I'm still using my Zhalou 1.3, though I did some modifications to it. I replaced the stock power inlet and the output RCA jacks, and unplugged the headphone amp section. It also has an upgraded power supply, caps, and opamps. I have an M^3 amplifier that I use as a headphone amp and a preamp.

The Mini M^3 would be a great choice as a portable amp, I agree. If I ever find that I need a portable setup, that's probably the way I'll go.

Supra - how do you get these free samples?

Question
02-04-09, 04:39 PM
Can someone please update the OP to include Yuin earbuds? They are probably the best earbuds in the world atm.

Aynjell
07-06-09, 02:24 PM
here's a vote for the Sony MDR-V6's. I've heard a lot of headphones over the last year or two, and they were the first to make me say... really? For 75$ on amazon, they're the best value I've seen so far.

HD205's are a complete failure of a device and not worth the coin. I'd rather send people to the MDR-V6 for twice as much because they won't be wasting the money on the 205's I bought. I'm sure I'll be trying some more headphones soon.

Also, Razer 5.1's I got for free aren't terrible. My girlfriend uses them quite happily due to the inline amplifier, the plush cushioning, and the open design. I don't like them for the following reasons: Too much wiring, blue leds on the side are distraction, and they are lacking in a lot of areas in regards to sound. I agree with 5.1 cans being gimmicky. But then again most of razer's products are.

greetethomas
10-21-09, 06:08 AM
This was a sig spammer. His deleted post was causing vB to not render the 5th page of the thread. He was banned long ago and will not be returning. Please disregard this inane post. Thanks.

-hokie

Aynjell
10-21-09, 07:59 AM
Hello Friends,
My exams are done....getting bored sitting at home so thought of fixing my headphones....really not able to rectify what has gone wrong with them.Till last semester they were working properly...but since last month one of its hearing head has stopped working.....a very light sound can be heard form that hearing head and at times no sound is heard.I don't want to dump them,they are very special to me.So,folks if you have any suggestion regarding my problem just let me know.

What type of headphone is it? YOu may want to contact the manufacturer and seek a replacement driver for it. Where abouts do you live?

KinesongPayaso
12-07-10, 11:21 AM
To the guys upgrading their soundcards... try to look into pure DAC's instead
cheaper, smaller, flexible, more often than not, better/cleaner/clearer SQ

imposter
07-11-11, 05:22 PM
anyone suggest a pair for under 30. i dont want in ear. preferably something that isolates sound and is closed style headphones. if there is something really worth wild i might go up to 50. but i really would like to stay under 30. I was thinking of the hd-202 II by Sennheiser . im i have a good history with a pair of hd-555's but i cant stand bringing them to places and having everyone listen to what i am listening to.. plus if i am in a noisey room i would like to put on my music and be able to do my homework with out distractions.

Maxvla
07-12-11, 09:28 PM
Check out this review guide:

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/433318/shootout-84-portable-headphones-reviewed-fischer-audio-fa-004-koss-ur55-added-06-06

Scroll to 'Tier C $20-$50' and start checking them out. I normally sort by the value rating then read closer when I'm ready to recommend or buy for myself.

johan851
07-13-11, 12:46 AM
anyone suggest a pair for under 30. i dont want in ear. preferably something that isolates sound and is closed style headphones. if there is something really worth wild i might go up to 50. but i really would like to stay under 30. I was thinking of the hd-202 II by Sennheiser . im i have a good history with a pair of hd-555's but i cant stand bringing them to places and having everyone listen to what i am listening to.. plus if i am in a noisey room i would like to put on my music and be able to do my homework with out distractions.
The HD-201 is a great pair of headphones. The 202's, from what I hear, aren't nearly as good and are probably less comfortable.

TomBrooklyn
11-29-11, 02:26 PM
I've associated Koss with headphones for about four decades.

The best headphones I've ever listened to are the Stax Lambdas. Ken Rockwell reviews them here in some detail, much as I would: http://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/stax/sr-lambda-pro.htm

RedCell989
11-29-11, 02:55 PM
He digs a bit into studio phones but misses quite a few solid performers in the sub $200-240 price region.

parmtre
03-24-12, 03:52 AM
What about the KRK KNS 6400 or even the KNS 8400. They got a great price and the sound quality is top. I am really happy with mine.
You should include them as well in this almost perfect thread.