TCCD vs UTT?

[BrutalDrew]

On some other forums I visit UTT RAM like the OCZ VX, Mushkin Redline and others are contantly recommended.

I see on this forum TCCD is recommended a lot. Why so? Is higher FSB better then tight timings? One thing I do like about UTT RAM is you can get some for really cheap such as the Mushkin RAM. From wehat I have seen TCCD is pretty expensive though.

What would be the best to go with on a new rig with an Athlon 64 3200/3000 Venice and a DFI Ultra-D NF4 mobo? If I do go UTT I will have a fan blowing over top of them so I won't need to worry about that.

[dfi]

well, you sould read up on some of these issues, there are so many threads.
But in my opinion Utt is better with 2-2-2-6 timings at about 260-280 htt than 300HTT with relaxed timings.

That is why im getting the mushkin redline today and possibly can hit higher than ocz vx which is good at 250-260 at 2-2-2-8
Yes a fan is a must if you want high oc!!!!!

I also have the dfi nforce 4 ut sli-dr

[BrutalDrew]

Thanks. Anybody else want to share your opinion?

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

heres the deal. utt will beat tccd when its at 260 2-2-2-5 and tccd is at 315 2.5-4-4-7. madshrimps had something on it. utt is good with lots of voltage, and thus needs active cooling. if you get an xp90, then the air frow that will blow onto the ram, and youll be fine. tccd is about 185 for ocz plat rev 2, and utt is 103 for twinmos sp.

[BrutalDrew]

Thanks. It definitely looks like I am going UTT for my next rig!

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

just make sure you have airflow over the ram. and try to stay under 3.6v's for it.

[BrutalDrew]

I was going to put a fan right over the RAM so that is not a problem.

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

if you get an xp90, then the fan will hangover the ram, thus eliminating the need for a fan for the ram only.

[BrutalDrew]

I am getting an XP-90, but putting an extra 92mm fan that I already have on there won't hurt anything.

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

yea, that will do good for cooling the mosfets and other stuff around there too. id say get a venice 3000+ too, they are clockign really well, stang8118's does 2.7ghz on an xp90 and is using twinmos sp too.

[dfi]

if anyone would upload a pic i would show u my rig how it looks with 2-92 mm fans

[BrutalDrew]

yea, that will do good for cooling the mosfets and other stuff around there too. id say get a venice 3000+ too, they are clockign really well, stang8118's does 2.7ghz on an xp90 and is using twinmos sp too.

Does the 10x multiplier on the 3200+ make it worth it over the 3000+ or do they both clock to about the same?

if anyone would upload a pic i would show u my rig how it looks with 2-92 mm fans

http://imageshack.us

[mista ting]

i think TCCD is better but thats just me ;D

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

it all depends, if you arent comfortable running 3.5v's through ram 24/7, then utt isnt for you. and no, the 10x multi is kinda negligable on compared to the 9x of the 3000+. they both clock similarly.

[BrutalDrew]

i think TCCD is better but thats just me ;D

Any reasons why? It doesn't help me at all if you don't explain why you think that.

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

some people just have preferences. there will always be the guy whose ati biased, or nvidia biased, or intel biased or amd biased. they have no real reasons, they just like it more. tccd and utt are pretty much equal performers, one just needs 3.5v's and the other needs 2.8v's.

[dfi]

thx ok here's 3 links

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/1907/dscn25964jk.th.jpg (http://img281.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn25964jk.jpg)

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/5194/dscn25953zh.th.jpg (http://img281.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn25953zh.jpg)

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/7421/dscn25947mc.th.jpg (http://img281.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn25947mc.jpg)

[BrutalDrew]

Nice dfi, but the pics are really small.

[dfi]

sorry i messed it up here are in bigger res.

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/2291/dscn25944mh.jpg

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/7732/dscn25955gh.jpg

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/5590/dscn25969oy.jpg

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

nice setup. i never woulda thought of that!

[BrutalDrew]

Nice. I will most likely be doing the same thing.

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

the xp90 blows over them enough if you get a good fan, delta triblade or tornado at 7v's works.

[BrutalDrew]

I'll just do something like what DFI did. I think having an extra fan in there would help. I'll just think of how I am going to do it once I get the parts :D

[dfi]

i just used a 92 mm thermaltake fan with 2 zip ties on the bottom and i don't plan putting a fan grill on it because it will restrict (some) airflow.

The xp-90 blows over it that is true, but i want cool air to blow on it. and this is a 44cfm fan 35db came with my xp-90 from jabtech
and i have a high 56cfm fan over the heatsink!

[BlckToyBx]

Noob question here what is the difference between tccd and utt ram?

[Sucka]

Noob question here what is the difference between tccd and utt ram?

TCCD refers to the IC's on the module. They do high HTT/FSB at low voltage, timings at around 2.5-3-3-* and UTT is more hit and miss (unless you buy the Redline/VX which is binned) and takes high voltage to hit ~250HTT at 2-2-2-* and requires active cooling. I have some VX which is great for benching and such, but i prefer the low voltage TCCD for daily use. Really can't go wrong either way.

[dumo]

Heres the difference.....tccd @3.1V...
http://img97.echo.cx/img97/4127/cpumarkgskill15il.jpg
http://img97.echo.cx/img97/4008/cpumarkmushkin21hy.jpg

[mista ting]

Heres the difference.....tccd @3.1V...
http://img97.echo.cx/img97/4127/cpumarkgskill15il.jpg
http://img97.echo.cx/img97/4008/cpumarkmushkin21hy.jpg

any links for where you bought that tccd memory ;D?

[peterhoang1988]

Heres the difference.....tccd @3.1V...
http://img97.echo.cx/img97/4008/cpumarkmushkin21hy.jpg

i hope that cpu isnt really running at 241C

[dumo]

any links for where you bought that tccd memory ;D?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231008