View Full Version : how to spilt my dsl between two computers??
demon-eater
10-04-01, 07:20 AM
okay i have dsl and i want to have it on both my computers in my house.. now with my dsl i have a external dsl modem then a ethernet card inside my computer.. my question is how can i get that on my other computer.. my computer will be running win 98 and 2000 pro and my parents computer will be running 2000pro.. now sombody told me about getting 2 more ethernet cards and a rj45 wire and putting them in both computers and hooking them up and going to the internet sharing thingy in my control panel but i wanted to know exactly how to do that or if its not possible to do it that way to do it another way... thanks
either add a second nic to the main computer and enabe internet connection sharing or buy a router....in my opinion a router is the best way to go
Maddman
10-04-01, 02:49 PM
You need to get a second nic for the computer with the dsl conection and if the second coputer doesn't already have one a nic for it also, then it depends on whieither you want a router or you want a crossover cable if you want to hook more then just the two computers up then you need a router otherwize you only need a crossover cable. Personaliy I think ICS on win2k is easier to use but you need to turn on ICS on the coputer that has the dsl connection.
Big_KiD
10-04-01, 11:39 PM
dsl router will support up to 253 users built in nat and dhcp server what more do u want. DSL Router (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=20&grid=5)
klosters64a
10-04-01, 11:48 PM
Both boxes need their own NIC. While it's nice to have a router(separate from the DSL Modem/router you use to connect to your DSL provider--in many cases)) to connect your two PC's, it's not a must-have for a two computer network.
A hub in place of the home network router will do the job just fine, and they're less expensive as well.
Actually it depends on how many ip addresses he has. If he has only 1 and he puts the 2 boxes on the hub then 1 of the boxes isn't gonna browse crap....alot of people are not up to the headache of using 3 nics to enable ICS on a box and have it act as a gateway...if someone wants to use the second computer the first also has to be on.....60 - 80 bux buy a router, it uses NAT and dhcp plus protects your connection. If your gonna be blowin 50 - 60 bux on dsl then buying a router shouldn't be a big issue...whether or not its necessary is beside the point...ease of installation and secure surfing is worth the price of the router
demon-eater
10-05-01, 08:06 AM
my ip changes everytime i connect and i just want to beable to get on the other computer when this one is on and connected and check my email well not me my parents but thats all i wanna do it for.. cause they like keeping their email and i format and reinstall everything every 4months.. plus my system randomly goes down from time to time..
Maddman
10-06-01, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by demon-eater
my ip changes everytime i connect and i just want to beable to get on the other computer when this one is on and connected and check my email well not me my parents but thats all i wanna do it for.. cause they like keeping their email and i format and reinstall everything every 4months.. plus my system randomly goes down from time to time..
Hook the dsl to the win2k machine put the second NIC in that machine turn on ICS on the dsl conection put a NIC in the other machine hook them together with a crossover cable set the second computer to obtain an IP address automaticly. Then in IE under internet options connections on the second machine turn off automatic configuration under lan setings.
Warlord2
10-06-01, 12:51 PM
if you dont want to setup your DSL manually there is this program thats called Midpoint 5.0
I THINK it acks as a router so if you out a nother nec in and thin connect that to a hub it will setup all the connection you want automatically
I THINK!!!!!!!!
Im using Midpoint trial version right now to hook up 2 IP together
its also very expencive if you buy it
get a router they have thim for $100 with a built in firewall
klosters64a
10-07-01, 10:05 AM
Actually, it doesn't matter that he has only one IP. Most DSL Modem/Routers have DHCP capability. This means that the second box on the home network is assigned an IP automagically.
Then the hub goes to work and you can browse the Web from both boxes simultaneously. Badda bing.
Alternatively, a crossover CAT5 cable can connect the NIC in Box A with the NIC in box B.
A two box network does not require a home network router. A hub is just fine. If you want to, your DSL ISP will usually rent you a block of Static IP's.
The way I share my cable to 3 computers is...
Connecting to a Win2k Server network and using Analog Proxy as a proxy server to share it... Considering the person who uses the computer downstairs only uses the net so it is no problem that it is running on a proxy ... Not like he games or anything...
xCarne_Asada
10-11-01, 12:09 AM
Router is probably your best bet, thats what i used to share my dsl.
mrilock
10-14-01, 03:03 PM
Maybe I should start a new thread for this, and for my particular situation...
I have a mac and a pc, both have ethernet, but I want to share my dsl... I don't understand why everyone suggests routers, how are they superior to hubs? Costwise, hubs seem cheaper. I've also seen hubs that are "built in print servers" - if this is what I think it is, it would be nice to share my printer between my mac and pc.
Sorry if this sounds hella basic, I'm a total n00b when it comes to networking.
oops, I'm not only a noob, also an idiot. I just read some more of the above posts, and I think they answer my question...
I only get a single ip address, so having a router would be a better bet for me I guess... although I don't know if I can have one between a mac and a pc.
xCarne_Asada
10-14-01, 07:04 PM
Hubs are cheap but one computer needs to be the server in that situtaion, so that means one comp always is on. Also with hubs you get higher ping within the lan cause information gets in to a collusion.
A router is a nice thing, it has a built in switch so your ping is lower, built in firewall for protection and one computer doesnt always have to be on.
I think that is right. Not to sure, i just know a router is better than a hub when sharing a internet connection.
mrilock
10-15-01, 01:46 AM
I'll probably go the router route then...
Only of course now that I'm getting way more into hardware and stuff, I'm looking at my budget, looking at my wishlist, and it is not pretty :D
Eh, I guess I can simply manage my budget a little better. I'm sure I could afford to only eat every other day :D
Thanks for the info.
router is the best route to go.
Speed_Freak
10-19-01, 07:30 PM
I just use a simple linksys hub. i like having my own NIC cause sometimes i'll run my computer over to my friends or whatever.
Speed_Freak
10-19-01, 07:33 PM
uhhh the whole thing with one computer always having to be on is incorrect. i have DSL, a linksys hub, and my comp with my nic and the same with my parents. the DSL modem goes into the hub so as long as your modem is on the other computer can still access it. i personally think a hub is better than a router for just your average, game playing, surfing, internet user. (a lot cheaper, and im cheap)
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