CS:S Whats up with all the Headshots??

[Larry Quinn]

Maybe I'm a newbie....but I can site a guy in and unload a clip and he still standing....

I turn a corner and 1/10'th of a second later..I'm head shot with ONE FRIGGING shot from an M4 carbine .... and both of us are moving !!!!

Not even a scoped rifle.....

I'm loosing a lot of patients with this game..and plan on ditching...
SO what other online games of the same type are better..and at least give you a fighting chance...where EVERYONE has to work for their frags with Realistic weapons...???

[Turd Furguson]

Recoil is the problem most likely. But if you are point blank range I know how you feel. The heads are not on top of the models but at the neck. You have to basically spray at the crotch if you want a HS possibly.

[Panzerknacker]

just throw the game in the trash.

Or if u really wanna play it, try to shoot by clicking your mouse instead of holding the button. Spraying doesnt work in CS, that's why I hate it.

And I didnt mention the completely idiotic hitboxes, the cheaters, and the other crap.

Why are u trying to get into the game btw? I always wondered how people can get into that game.

[DuckDodgers]

I got sick of all the cheats there too. That is why I play Americas Army. It's free and they use Punk-buster anti cheat.

[Pestoballs]

You need to shoot in bursts not auto, plus most of the people on CS:S use trainers and aimbots which really makes me mad as well

[Karbon]

I don't see what the big deal is...if you want realism how do you expect spraying an m4 to hit every shot? Just aim for the head, 2-3 shot bursts with m4, 2 shot bursts with ak, and it will hit. I'm not trying to be modest, but after you play for a while, snapping to the head comes naturally.

[Larry Quinn]

I agree..I've tried every way possible to hit...and there is something WRONG!

America's Army....how much??...and is it worth it?

How about any others....

I'm sick of hunting Bots..and like being able to talk to teammates with a Mic...

Please make sone game suggestions.

Larry

[batboy]

America's Army is a free download, therefore it is indeed worth every penny.

[{PMS}fishy]

CS:S takes a lot of practice.

I can drop people across a map with an AK. I have also been playing since CS 1.1.

You have to figure that most people that play CS have been doing so for a long time, and they have been playing a lot.

Once you get the feel for the game you will do a lot better.

You'll figure it out.

Try HL2: DM if you want something run and gun style.

[Zulu-1]

i think its because most people (or at least the newbs that dont know what they're doing, or people who DO know what they're doing) aim for the chest and just start spraying
the recoil puts the gun up, and hits you in the head

[DuckDodgers]

I agree..I've tried every way possible to hit...and there is something WRONG!

America's Army....how much??...and is it worth it?

How about any others....

I'm sick of hunting Bots..and like being able to talk to teammates with a Mic...

Please make sone game suggestions.

Larry

I have played AA off and on since it came out. It was originally written by the US Army as a recruitment toy. If I am not mistaken. It has come a long way. I think it is better than CS. But that is my opinion. You can read all about it here ---> http://americasarmy.com/. There are links to download sites there also.

[WuChild]

Head shots are friggen stupid in any FPS multiplayer

If you are going to do head shots, why not do leg shots so I can just shoot off someones leg and leave them for dead.

This one of several reasons CS sucks

[zip22]

Head shots are friggen stupid in any FPS multiplayer

If you are going to do head shots, why not do leg shots so I can just shoot off someones leg and leave them for dead.

This one of several reasons CS sucks

so its either all real, or nothing for you? for april fools, CS said there was an update where you had to oil your gun, clean your gogles, and oil your knife or else it would rust. i think getting too real will make a game bad, and not having headshots would make it too fake. having different hit zones is a plus in my opinion.

[xTrEmEoVrClOcKr]

CS:S is fun but yes I agree its a instant reaction to shoot for head ... but the hitboxes are suspicous.

[WuChild]

No, I didn't say all real or nothing.

'leave them for dead' was added for dramatic effect

Head shots in CS doesn't add any realism, it adds more arcade. I agree that adding too much realism makes a game bad.

My problem is the head shots from shotguns, pistols from across the map, lucky sprays in your general direction etc etc.

I want balanced gameplay, and head shots add too much random luck on too many levels. The 'realism' can come from other areas, but just selecting the head for realism mode is very poor.

Of all the things CS actualy IS, 'realism' should never pop up in any description. There are games where that exists, and ya, I wouldn't call them fun but I have a friend who LOVES that stuff.

But it's just my opinion, people love headshots, I think they are the dumbest thing ever, just a matter of what I think is fun.

p.s. I don't like GETTING headshots just as much as I don't like TAKING one.

[Jimbob7]

CS : S, is a great game, infact CS is one of the most played multiplayer games around. Sure theres not much team play when you just join a server, but its a fast paced game, with loads of skill as to how you kill people. When your a new its not much fun, but when you start getting 1:1 kill ratio and so on thats when you really get hooked. Ive played the game since 1.3, people constantly complain about cheaters, i rarely see a cheater, and they are normally kicked within a few rounds depending on the server. I think people don't like CS because you can't just start playing the game and be good from other FPS gaming, it takes time to get into it.

[Janus67]

so its either all real, or nothing for you? for april fools, CS said there was an update where you had to oil your gun, clean your gogles, and oil your knife or else it would rust. i think getting too real will make a game bad, and not having headshots would make it too fake. having different hit zones is a plus in my opinion.
agreed zip22.

CS:S takes a lot of practice.

I can drop people across a map with an AK. I have also been playing since CS 1.1.

You have to figure that most people that play CS have been doing so for a long time, and they have been playing a lot.

Once you get the feel for the game you will do a lot better.

You'll figure it out.

Try HL2: DM if you want something run and gun style.

good advice fishy, I played CS for a while when it first came out, then I played the source beta and everything including when it was official. It isn't too bad of a game, it is meant to be somewhat realistic but not so overdone to be stupid.

just throw the game in the trash.

Or if u really wanna play it, try to shoot by clicking your mouse instead of holding the button. Spraying doesnt work in CS, that's why I hate it.

And I didnt mention the completely idiotic hitboxes, the cheaters, and the other crap.

Why are u trying to get into the game btw? I always wondered how people can get into that game.

I have to admit that I hate the cheaters, but all games have them and Valve is working on getting rid of them. It is the most played online shooter, so of course there are going to be more cheaters, but while implementing VAC2 it should help get rid of some of the cheaters. The hitboxes can be annoying, I admit, but it isn't worth complaining about you just need to get used to the game.

Maybe I'm a newbie....but I can site a guy in and unload a clip and he still standing....

I turn a corner and 1/10'th of a second later..I'm head shot with ONE FRIGGING shot from an M4 carbine .... and both of us are moving !!!!

Not even a scoped rifle.....

I'm loosing a lot of patients with this game..and plan on ditching...
SO what other online games of the same type are better..and at least give you a fighting chance...where EVERYONE has to work for their frags with Realistic weapons...???

My best advice is to practice, keep playing and get better at it. practice with a weapon or two at a time and get used to how it fires, the reload time, the speed you move at, and the recoil that it has. if you are asking for "realistic weapons" then this is a decent game to get into. of course the shotguns should probably be killing within one shot, but the game wouldn't be fun if that was true. Just keep practicing and get better at it. SHOOT IN BURSTS.

[Larry Quinn]

Ok..Before I pitch the game..anyone have a few good secure servers to try..

Ones that are locked for cheatine....

Maybe a private one that you would let me into????

I think there is potential in the game..but I'm sick of being dead in 15 seconds!

Larry

[Slackfumasta]

Hitboxes in CS:S completely suck. IMO, the people who get good at the game simply know where the hitboxes are and shoot accordingly. I can't tell you how many times I've shot people, died, and then found out I didn't even hit them at all, or hit them once for 12 or 22 points. It's retarded.

The game is stupidly fun, but maddening at the same time because there are times you can point your gun right at somebody and not even hit them, sometimes even when they are standing still.

[ati]

cs is an extremely fast paced game. if this is your first time playing it then it will take months to be able to be good. you need to gain that twitch reflex and the ability to predict where your oppenents are. it took about 2-3 months for me to be able to kill,shoot,and survive properly when i started out.

[xCRF450]

yeah i love CSS, there is a OC clan at http://www.ocs-overclockers.org/ i believe they are from this site, voo doo rufus is a member i am not sure who else, here is the ip: 64.92.168.11:27015 my name is |OCS-r| Rock Chopper, hit it up try it out, and trust me you get better every kill/death you get dont give up... i love CSS it is not nesasarily the more realistic graphics, but i like it over AA because AA is still a little i dont know how to explain it, but what css got that aa dont i like :)

[xTrEmEoVrClOcKr]

cs is an extremely fast paced game. if this is your first time playing it then it will take months to be able to be good. you need to gain that twitch reflex and the ability to predict where your oppenents are. it took about 2-3 months for me to be able to kill,shoot,and survive properly when i started out.

........ Fast pased? Play some UT2004 if you havn't already ... lol. CS:S is fast pased for a game intended for "realism."

[Kevin007]

I like using rifles because the zoom in 2 times, is nice and you get a perfect shot :)

[CorpX]

play 1.6 if you want a more predictable recoil.


i dont think css is quite "there" yet.

[ati]

yea 1.6 has a more solid base to practice aim on. it doesnt have that "liquidy" feel that cs:s has.

[SpoonMaN]

You need to shoot in bursts not auto, plus most of the people on CS:S use trainers and aimbots which really makes me mad as well
i take offence at the thought "most" css players use cheats
being an admin on one of the more popular css servers in the seattle area (emerald forest seattle, ip:66.150.164.101:27015) i see very few hacks and when i do see em i play with em and then ban there sorry asses
i do see some people that i just cant pin a hack on so i wait for vac2 to get them
anyway i love css all u have to do is play more and get used to the recoil of each gun and also find a nice server to play on and stick with it till u get the hang of the game

[{PMS}fishy]

i take offence at the thought "most" css players use cheats
being an admin on one of the more popular css servers in the seattle area (emerald forest seattle, ip:66.150.164.101:27015) i see very few hacks and when i do see em i play with em and then ban there sorry asses
i do see some people that i just cant pin a hack on so i wait for vac2 to get them
anyway i love css all u have to do is play more and get used to the recoil of each gun and also find a nice server to play on and stick with it till u get the hang of the game

More fun, and even better than the ban, is to bind either "mouse 1" to kill, or "b" to kill.

Sometimes its good to mess with them and binf a weird key liek shift or v.

Thats my favorite revenge on cheaters.

[m3x1c4nj3w]

Go to your local gamestop and pick up a copy of 1.6 and practice using that. The physics and hitboxes in 1.6 are much "better" in my opinion

[CorpX]

i love 1.6 for that reason.

i get reasonable fps in css (60+ on most occassions), but in combat, it drops to less than 40 and it is VERY noticable for me. i cant use m4/ak much in source for this reason. if the fps drops to below 40, your recoil will go down in "phases" and that throws me off completely.

[TheGreySpectre]

I keep trying to get into CS:S, im even an admin on some servers for it over in the Spokane WA area. But the wierd hitboxes and large amount of good people make it hard to get into

[jamesavery22]

yes there are a lot of hackers in CS. But as Jimbob7 was the first to say, its one of the most played MP games out there, if not #1. If you have the widest user base you are going to have the most "bad" users.

Become a regular at a clan server or any other server that has a good deal of admins and tends to have one 24/7. or better yet one with their own home page and/or forums with IM contacts.

cheaters look for the public non-admined servers. Which happen to be all the custom map servers that I like to play on when Im sick of dust. Well WhenDarknessFalls is a very well admined server and does a good deal of custom maps. Same with cantstopgaming.

And I've been playing since something like 0.43... I got HL2 before Christmas sometime IIRC. The past couple of weeks I have noticed a lot more cheaters. Think its because where to get them is becoming pretty known and public. Someone needs to DOS that ISP :D Or better yet valve needs to get their butt moving on VAC2 and just make it required on every server. When I do "secured servers only" in the server search I get close to 300 servers (out of a 2k avg) but when I connect to them I get that "this server is protected by vac" on only a handfull :confused:

[CorpX]

i dont think vac2 is public yet.....it's in beta and valve chooses what servers it wants the beta on. actually it's just a simple command you add to server.cfg to make it secure.

at least now, they're just testing the connectivity stuff for vac2 and not the actual anti-cheat stuff.

[jamesavery22]

i dont think vac2 is public yet.....it's in beta and valve chooses what servers it wants the beta on. actually it's just a simple command you add to server.cfg to make it secure.

at least now, they're just testing the connectivity stuff for vac2 and not the actual anti-cheat stuff.

well that makes sense. valve needs to get that out. Would make a lot of people happy.

[Stoanhart]

CS : S, is a great game, infact CS is one of the most played multiplayer games around. Sure theres not much team play when you just join a server, but its a fast paced game, with loads of skill as to how you kill people. When your a new its not much fun, but when you start getting 1:1 kill ratio and so on thats when you really get hooked. Ive played the game since 1.3, people constantly complain about cheaters, i rarely see a cheater, and they are normally kicked within a few rounds depending on the server. I think people don't like CS because you can't just start playing the game and be good from other FPS gaming, it takes time to get into it.

Damn right,. There is no cheater problem. It's getting into the game. I agree!

[ninthebin]

well I agree with that to a point, I used to play cs alot in 1.0 / 1.1 and then a bit later in 1.4 / 1.5 and I think I seen maybe one cheat in all that time. Same with cs:s played it since it was shipped with hl2, didnt see any cheats until I would say probably the last month - in which I would say 1/2 servers I now go on you will see someone start spinning in circles flying around the map at 500mph headshotting everyone ^^...so now I have stuck to playing on the same 1-2 servers I know that are admined well enough to have a good game of it

[.chiefs]

go to your css folder in your harddrive. go to cstrike folder/cfg folder. create a notepad file called autoexec.cfg
enter these commands.... helps alot with hitboxes and such..

bind "," "cl_interpolate 0"
bind "." "cl_interpolate 1"

cl_crosshairscale "1200"
cl_crosshairalpha "999"
cl_crosshairusealpha "1"
cl_dynamiccrosshair "1"

cl_showfps "1"
net_graph "3"
mat_show_texture_memory_usage "1"

cl_lagcomp_errorcheck "1"
cl_cmdrate "100"
cl_updaterate "100"
cl_rate "20000"
cl_smooth "0"
rate "25000"
cl_interp "0"
cl_interpolate "0"
fps_max "101"

violence_agibs "1"
violence_hgibs "1"
violence_hblood "1"
violence_ablood "1"
cl_show_bloodspray "1"

cl_phys_props_enable "0"
cl_ragdoll_physics_enable "0"
cl_show_splashes "0"
cl_ejectbrass "0"
cl_phys_props_max "0"
mat_compressedtextures "1"
mat_fastnobump "1"
mat_bumpmap "0"
mat_specular "0"
budget_show_history "0"

you cant spray a full clip in css. small bursts. you have to recoup from the recoil a second or so between bursts. you can get headshots easy from accross the map if you stop and crouch and aim and one shot for the head. use the autoexec and it helps the hitboxes, plus some commands i threw in to help fps and show blood more and give smaller crosshair. use the . & , binds to change the interp... interp is the arcade type lag. it may seem jittery but you get used to it and your shots are dead on. turn off the interp by using the bind for sniping, makes the screen smooth for sniping. (comma), is for normal.... (period). is for snipers

[Janus67]

I don't know if you can possibly consider CS to be a "fast paced" game. It is relatively slow when it comes to shooters, especially compared to TFC, Q3A, PK, UT and a ton of other games like those. For a "realistic" game it moves somewhat quickly.