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ukf

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Somebody told me to move this topic from general hardware... but anyways...

Hey oc'ers,

A friend of mine recommended ocforums for overclocking beginners. I've been around computers my whole life and never actually got into overclocking.

So yeah, anyways... Just got a new system and I need somebody to help me overclock this beast :burn: :

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Socket 939 Winchester Integrated into Chip FSB
DFI LanParty UT nF4 Ultra-D
OCZ EL Platinum Rev2 2x512MB DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel
Leadtek PX6600GT TDH Extreme 128MB GDDR3 PCI-Express x16
FSP Group AX500-A ATX12V 500W PSU
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150
Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000BWA Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower
Thermaltake Thunderblade A1926 120mm Sleeve Blue LED Light Fans (replaced 2 stock fans)
THERMALTAKE CL-P0024 Heatsink (just ordered) :clap:
THERMALTAKE A2017 90mm 1 Ball 1 Sleeve Blue LED Light Fan (just ordered 2 of them for the heatsink)

I read up on overclocking a little bit, but I'm going nowhere. I still have no idea what HTT or LDT multiplier is for. I know however that FSB times HTT has to equal or be less than 1000MHz. I had to manualy set the timings on the ram to 2-2-2-5, because it automatically detected it as 2-2-3-5 for some reason. :confused:

I was wondering if I am doing something wrong because whenever I tried raising the FSB to 205MHz, it was running stable - Memtest86 ran 1500% in coverages, no errors. 8 hours of Prime95 - stable. When I tried raising to 210MHz, my computer hangs at the logon screen than reboots itself. It let me go into windows with 208MHz FSB, but memtest86 gave me a bejesus (a lot) ammount of errors in the first 5%. :mad:

I also tried messing around with ratios and the HTT multiplier thing. Got it up to 8.5x265MHz FSB with 3x HTT multiplier and a 3:4 ratio on the RAM frequency. That also required to raise the voltages on LDT, DRAM, and Chipset (i don't know if that was the right thing to do, but that was the only way i could load into windows). Yet again, not stable, memtest gave an enormous amount of errors, and ZoneAlarm's TrueVector kept on crapping out. :bang head

Somebody please help!!! :temper: I need like a tutorial or something, cuz I'm lost...

Thanks in advace,
UKF.

PS: If anybody wants to help here are my BIOS voltage "items":

Selected item in asterickts and in lime color

CPU VID StartUp Value:
*StartUp*
1.550v-0.085v (0.025v increments)

CPU VID Control:
*Auto*
0.800v-1.550v (0.025v increments)

CPU VID Special Control:
*Auto*
Above VID * 104%
Above VID * 110%
Above VID * 113%
Above VID * 123%
Above VID * 126%
Above VID * 133%
Above VID * 136%

LDT Voltage:
*1.20v*
1.20v-1.50v (0.1v increments)

Chip Set Voltage:
*1.50v*
1.50v-1.80v (0.1v increments)

DRAM Voltage:
*2.60v*
2.50v-3.20v (0.1v increments)
 
And also, here's my DRAM Frequensy set: 1:1, 9:10, 5:6, 3:4, 7:10, 2:3, 3:5, 1:2
 
Welcome to the forums :welcome:

As a starting point, you should read through the "overclocking techniques" section in this thread

hitechjb1 has done a great job explaining how everything works :)
 
Hello Mate and Welcome to the Forums!

Overclocking is a multi-discipline adventure. In order to enjoy this adventure, it is necessary to understand the basics. Once your background is solid, the rest is a breeze!

Please go through these threads first and then I'm sure you will understand any given suggestion a lot better.

General Overclocking:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=83663

Memory specific Overclocking Info, Stress/Burn-in programs/info:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=257741
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=123908

Stability testing Guide:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=335813

Info about the AMD64 processor:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=295328


Handy software:

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
http://www.cpuid.org/clockgen.php
http://cpu.rightmark.org/download.shtml
http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmma.shtml
http://www.sisoftware.net/
http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm
http://superpi.radeonx.com/
http://www.memtest86.com/


Onto your specific questions:
I was wondering if I am doing something wrong because whenever I tried raising the FSB to 205MHz, it was running stable - Memtest86 ran 1500% in coverages, no errors. 8 hours of Prime95 - stable. When I tried raising to 210MHz, my computer hangs at the logon screen than reboots itself. It let me go into windows with 208MHz FSB, but memtest86 gave me a bejesus (a lot) ammount of errors in the first 5%.
I suppose you have TCC5 (the chips on the RAM, I mean) based RAM. The first thing I would do is to relax (increase) the timings to 2.5-3-3-8. That should give you a bit more headroom. If you read the above threads I've linked to, you will understand the tradeoffs involved between relaxing timings and increasing HTT (FSB) frequency.

I also tried messing around with ratios and the HTT multiplier thing. Got it up to 8.5x265MHz FSB with 3x HTT multiplier and a 3:4 ratio on the RAM frequency. That also required to raise the voltages on LDT, DRAM, and Chipset (i don't know if that was the right thing to do, but that was the only way i could load into windows). Yet again, not stable, memtest gave an enormous amount of errors, and ZoneAlarm's TrueVector kept on crapping out

Do not use half multipliers. They serve no purpose. Athlon64's do not have half multipliers. You can verify that with Right mark memory analyzer (in my useful software links given above ). Do not, I repeat DO NOT increase any voltages unless otherwise needed. Looking at the default timings on your RAM, I would say 2.8V should suffice. However, I would advise starting off with the lowest possible DRAM voltage, running memtest and moving up if need be. Chipset voltages need to be bumped up to alleviate Windows instability.

These should be useful regarding specific timings and explanation of settings in the BIOS:
Stable Settings thread:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=379317
Step by Step new build from the official DFI support forums:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6615
BIOS Guide:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11397
Official information:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1541


This should keep you busy for a while :)

Good Luck! :beer:

S.N
 
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thanks guys for all your help...

I guess this shall be another sleepless night, only now, I'm actually going to get something done :D
 
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