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The Overclocker
10-06-01, 01:03 PM
what shoul i use in my watercooling, achol or water with antifreeze?
CrazyDave
10-06-01, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by the overclocker
what shoul i use in my watercooling, achol or water with antifreeze?
That depends, what setup will you be using? Unless you are going to be working with sub-zero temps water will work fine by itself... Otherwise I'd recommend water/antifreeze if you are cooling by condenser or otherwise that will bring your temps that low.
The Overclocker
10-06-01, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by CrazyDave
That depends, what setup will you be using? Unless you are going to be working with sub-zero temps water will work fine by itself... Otherwise I'd recommend water/antifreeze if you are cooling by condenser or otherwise that will bring your temps that low.
the reason i want to use anti freeze is the good stuff has water wetter in and is an anti crosive, but would achol be better
JetMech
10-06-01, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by the overclocker
the reason i want to use anti freeze is the good stuff has water wetter in and is an anti crosive, but would achol be better Back in the day when I was in the military with a real job we had a sensor we had to pm quite often and to test it we had to get it below 0oF. To do this we took methanol alcohol kept it in the freezer and when needed stirred it with a compressed air tool sort of like those little motorized blenders that you can stick in a glass. Well to make a long story short a unique property of meth alcohol is that when it is moving it's temp drops (try putting some on a rag and moving it through the air). I've always wondered what the results would be of using this alcohol with a peltier in a waterlike setup. I know the condensation would be something to deal with but think of the possibilities. An MP at 2.0?
VashTheStampede
10-06-01, 08:10 PM
Didn't we already have an article on this where it compared alcohol and mineral oil as potential coolants? I remember it saying something like mineral oil is not that great conductor of heat, alcohol is, but has the tendancy to explode. Blowing up your PC for a few degrees difference.. that is extreme cooling ;)
Anyway use Redline WaterWetter or that Pro-Blend 40 Below stuff.
~RT~
JetMech
10-06-01, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by RedneckTech
Didn't we already have an article on this where it compared alcohol and mineral oil as potential coolants? I remember it saying something like mineral oil is not that great conductor of heat, alcohol is, but has the tendancy to explode. Blowing up your PC for a few degrees difference.. that is extreme cooling ;)
Anyway use Redline WaterWetter or that Pro-Blend 40 Below stuff.
~RT~ You just answered the one question that has been bugging me about that solution. Oh well never mind!:o
VashTheStampede
10-06-01, 08:49 PM
Another thing, mineral oil is non-electrically conductive. So you could drop your PC in a vat of that stuff and still run it. A guy actually did that, no huge cooling difference, but ran quiet. Well considering he was using plastic drop cloths and styrofoam blocks and his open case on it's side and it filled to the brim with mineral oil.
~RT~
JetMech
10-06-01, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by RedneckTech
Another thing, mineral oil is non-electrically conductive. So you could drop your PC in a vat of that stuff and still run it. A guy actually did that, no huge cooling difference, but ran quiet. Well considering he was using plastic drop cloths and styrofoam blocks and his open case on it's side and it filled to the brim with mineral oil.
~RT~ Wonder how much he paid the maid to clean that thing. :D Seriously though what if you could seal a system and hard fit it together to handle fairly high pressures. Alcohol use would then be possible wouldn't it.
VashTheStampede
10-06-01, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by JetMech
Wonder how much he paid the maid to clean that thing. :D Seriously though what if you could seal a system and hard fit it together to handle fairly high pressures. Alcohol use would then be possible wouldn't it.
Ever read about the old alcohol stills blowing up back during prohibition? That was alcohol pressurized with heat. So your PC would be running a minature still.. Still a high possibility of explosion, though a PC runs at lower temps than those stills (they were usually wood stoves and the like).
~RT~
Warlord2
10-07-01, 12:04 AM
use a SMALL amount of ani-freeze or waterweter with distilled water
the ani-freeze or waterweter are just there to keep the corrosion down
water can transfer heat much better thin ani-freeze or waterweter so it will cool your CPU better
VashTheStampede
10-07-01, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Warlord2
use a SMALL amount of ani-freeze or waterweter with distilled water
the ani-freeze or waterweter are just there to keep the corrosion down
water can transfer heat much better thin ani-freeze or waterweter so it will cool your CPU better
Aye, never meant to solely use Water Wetter or Anti-Freeze. They are both meant to be additives. As for the amount, but in as much as you want, tests have been done, it's only effective until a certain amount, then it just finishes coloring water.
~RT~
TheMortalWombat
10-07-01, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by JetMech
Well to make a long story short a unique property of meth alcohol is that when it is moving it's temp drops (try putting some on a rag and moving it through the air).
The reason for it becoming colder is that alchohol evaporates quite rapidly, not that it is moving
The Overclocker
10-07-01, 05:18 AM
thanks, sounds like i shouldn't, suppose if i have an open system it wouldn't blow up but i will run out of alcohol very quickly, sounds like a safer way sould be using refigerant, but to do that i will have to make a new waterblock that is just a big hole, or the refigerant will not expand and wil not evaporate. i would have drunk all the alcohol any way
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