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burningrave101 said:I'd much rather have a gig of G. Skills new 1GBGH sticks which have UTT-BH chips for only $150. In fact i just bought some and i'm in the process of testing them now. They look like their some of the best UTT-BH available from the results other members are having at xtremesystems.
Nothing other than binned qualityOrionRU said:So whats the difference between 1GLA and 1GBLE
Sentential said:No offense but there are equally as good products from Mushkin and OCZ at a fraction of the price. Gskill = Over-rated.
So whats the difference between 1GLA and 1GBLE
RedDragonXXX said:UTT's are ok, but they can't compare to TCCD, but when it comes to price they are the best.
burningrave101 said:How can they not compare to TCCD? Timings are just as important as RAM frequency and with TCCD you'll have to run lax timings to get those higher clocks. Running 250mhz+ 2-2-2-5 will almost always be faster then TCCD at higher speeds with more lax timings. The only real benefit of TCCD is the fact you can achieve those high clocks with not alot of voltage. Athlon 64's benefit very little from more bandwidth and the new Rev E chips dont scale to really high memory clocks very well. A few are able to get them there but usually the memory controller holds you back.
RedDragonXXX said:TCCD's are the best OC'ing RAM cause they can achive high clocks without using dividers and they run with low voltages and get extremely high bandwith. To achive 250MHz+ with 2-2-2-5 with UTT you will need to feed it some serious volts, which in most cases many people are not able since they are limited by their mobo and they are required to volt mod or get OCZ booster.
UTT is the next best thing to TCCD's.
burningrave101 said:Dividers dont impact performance because even 1:1 is still using a divider. There is really no such thing as 1:1 with an Athlon 64 because the memory clock is obtained from a divider used against the speed of the processor. Your never running "in-sync" so to speak even at 1:1.
The DFI NF4 board is easily the most popular NF4 board available and most overclockers go for it because of its tweakability and voltage options. If your limit yourself to a board that has a max vDDR of 2.85V then no you shouldn't bother with BH-5 or CH-5 style memory. The new Venice/San Diego cores dont really care for high clocks and TCCD though and seem to perform better with UTT based modules. I know my OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev2 TCCD doesn't run well with my 3200+ Venice and i've switched to UTT-BH G. Skill 1GBGH.
ap673 said:There's no harm in running 3.4vdimm 24/7 with a fan over it, so what's the big deal? I'd much rather have 260-270 2-2-2, than 275-285 2.5-3-3....
RedDragonXXX said:I was referring to 9:10, 5:6... dividers and with UTT you are forced to use them if you want a high OC, especially with the popular LBBLE's (3000 and 3200) which have low multiplier. I'm not a big fan of UTT's because they require such a high voltages to run at high freq which in return literary kill your RAM. When I see UTT hit DDR560 or 540 with 3.2V or lower I'm jumping on the wagon, till then I'm sticking with the TCCD.
I believe that is like saying there is no harm in smoking. The effects are not immediate so people thought for years there was no harm done. However, over time the effects are deadly. I don't think UTT is not worth the risks for the supposed gain, but hey, whatever floats your boat.ap673 said:There's no harm in running 3.4vdimm 24/7 with a fan over it, so what's the big deal? I'd much rather have 260-270 2-2-2, than 275-285 2.5-3-3....