7800GTX, cheaper than i expected...

[GáTê©rÀ$Hë®]

I just bought a GeCube x800xl last week, then this
card shows up.
http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=1867
:bang head

[Careface]

879us? geezus, maybe i wont be getting one then =\ man, thats like 1250dollars here D: i thought they were only going to be 500us ish.. ah well, well see :(

Careface*

[Goateh]

Gah, looks like my radeon might be staying a little while longer

[xTrEmEoVrClOcKr]

Just as I expected, i'll wait til these prices drop.

[Drec]

nice to see Sparkle in the game.

[hUMANbEATbOX]

that price is in canadian dollars no? it says including GST (general sales tax), that's what makes me say that...

[Mr.Guvernment]

deum, that is alot - canadian or not..lol

[funnyperson1]

Guys that is in Australian dollars

879.00 AUD = 683.515 USD

Still pretty steep (about $100 more than my whole system), but a bit easier to swallow.

[Scott9027]

Well at ~$600 it is cheaper than some SLI setups. Time to see if the price drops or if it outperforms aforementioned setups/

[Goateh]

thats still no fun for us :P

[Aslan]

Well, its going for $649 US at Mwave.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=393752
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=AA35630

I really don't know how they can say that they have it in stock though.

Edit: nm, if you try to add it to your shopping cart, then it's unavailable. :rolleyes:

[Mr.Guvernment]

yes mwave - there is a trusty reliable company :D

[Despotes]

That $$ is crazy for something marginally faster than a 6800 Ultra.
<500-ish would be reasonable. :rolleyes:

[GunnerMan]

Well 650 USD now give it a month for the market to drop prices to Sug. retail prolly be findable for 550, I wonder what te 512 version will cost?

[Zulu-1]

WOW thats exspensive.. lmao how much further can i push this POS card :p

[A1Killer]

a butt load more lol i dont want to know lol cause il be drooling over those cards till mine either goes out or i get the money to buy it

[superdaveviii]

Pre-order prices are gouged worse then then actual in-stock items in comparision to MSRP, usually >_<

[Careface]

Guys that is in Australian dollars

lol christ, so it is.. hmm 955dollars in new zealand, woot, maybe i will be getting one after all :D

Careface*

[Sjaak]

I am looking to buy a 512MB AGP card in august...any chance...?

[PCGUY112887]

I'd say a good chance, didn't it only take a few months from when 6800's went on preorder for them to hit the stores?

However it will cost ya.

[Sjaak]

I'd say a good chance, didn't it only take a few months from when 6800's went on preorder for them to hit the stores?

However it will cost ya.

I got 400 - 500 to lay out, plus what i get for my 9800XT.

[RedDragonXXX]

I'd rather get another 6800Ultra and run SLI, $879 no thanx.

[Audioaficionado]

Is it now native PCIe or does it still have that AGP>PCIe bridge chip like the 6800s do?

Also did they fix the PureVideo technology not working issue in these?

Or are these just the same as the 6800s but with more memory?

Edit: Here's some more pics and info. It seems this is a dual GPU core version based on the 6800 series and only 256MB of 1.6ns GDDR3 memory. There's supposed to be a 512MB version out eventually.

Dual core GPUs in SLI configuration sounds interesting and very expensive. I hope all the new chips are PCIe native but still get ported to AGP via the bridge chip.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64679

A search over at nVidia's site turned up zero results. Maybe they're waiting for the official release later this month.

[Phoenix87]

Pretty sure the official release is gonna be tomorrow or tuesday at their BF2 party.

[Sjaak]

Pretty sure the official release is gonna be tomorrow or tuesday at their BF2 party.

I really hope so. The sooner the better, i want 512mb vram on AGP :D

[Bar81]

MSRP is allegedly $649.

[Goateh]

Ouch, even for a top of the line card that seems a little steep :S

[A1Killer]

yeah over 600 is like 3 weeks worth of work lol but to me 600 and over is alot of money to spend on anything but food or decent clothes that wont fall apart the next day

[Goateh]

That had better be one kick ass card for that price :S

[speed bump]

Its getting really funny, we know very little about these cards and are assueming quite a bit and everyone already figures they suck? ATI doesn't even have an answer for these cards yet and might not for a couple of months, these are the going to be the fastest things in existence in a few days.

[Silversinksam]

Edit: Here's some more pics and info. It seems this is a dual GPU core version based on the 6800 series and only 256MB of 1.6ns GDDR3 memory.

I was surprised myself that they didn't use 1.2 or 1.429ns Samsung chips. 1.67ns is the same as used on 6800 Ultras

Samsungs high-end 1.2ns rated part can achieve clock speeds up to 800MHz, while lower rated modules consist of 1.429ns (700MHz), 1.667ns (600MHz), and 2.0ns (500MHz).


that price is in canadian dollars no? it says including GST (general sales tax), that's what makes me say that...

Uhhm .au = Aussies, it's NOT in Canadian dollars. look closer, Its Australian Dollars :rolleyes:

[madcow235]

I find it funny that people still say OH NO ITS CLOCKED SO LOW we arent the uninformed masses, or atleast I thought we weren't. Clockspeed means almost nothing in this world and we should know it. The architecture isnt the same as the 6800 so the clockspeeds are completely incomparable, we could say 6600gt is faster since its higher clocked :).

[Overclocker550]

I dont think there will be a choice since ati has delayed for as long as 4-6 months from what im hearing. Its either 7800gtx or keep waiting. However one can always buy a 6800gt for 1/3 the price and its barely slower :rolleyes:

[Silversinksam]

I find it funny that people still say OH NO ITS CLOCKED SO LOW we arent the uninformed masses, or atleast I thought we weren't. Clockspeed means almost nothing in this world and we should know it. The architecture isnt the same as the 6800 so the clockspeeds are completely incomparable, we could say 6600gt is faster since its higher clocked :).


I hope your not referring to me, I was commenting solely on the memory used, and nothing else..

[Matarael]

Its getting really funny, we know very little about these cards and are assueming quite a bit and everyone already figures they suck? ATI doesn't even have an answer for these cards yet and might not for a couple of months, these are the going to be the fastest things in existence in a few days.

At that price, if they don't live up to expectations people have already designated for them, they'll suck in said persons mind. It's a lot of money to waste if the 7x00 ends up being an anti-climatic release.

[hUMANbEATbOX]

Uhhm .au = Aussies, it's NOT in Canadian dollars. look closer, Its Australian Dollars :rolleyes:


OK ok....jeez no need for the "rollseyes". a simple oversight on my part.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Would that still be majorly high when translated to U.S. dollars? I have that feeling that it's gonna be at least almost $700 dollars!!! That would be as expensive as the Athlon 64 FX 55s. :mad:

[cooper15]

"
That $$ is crazy for something marginally faster than a 6800 Ultra."


9000 marks in 3dmark05 at stock speeds. <<<<what most of the 3dmark scores are comming out to be

[Audioaficionado]

Well a dual core GPU is something to write home about.

SLI would give you a 4-way GPU and 1024MB of GDDR3. :p

I look forward to what will happen to the 6800GT prices :D

[eightballrj]

SLI would give you a 4-way GPU and 1024GB of GDDR3. :D

Haha, Thats one badass set of cards if they will hold a TB of GDDR3. We knew what ya meant. Just had to poke fun:)

Richard

[Overclocker550]

the 7800gtx gets 9000 marks overclocked, stock is not even 8000. people will buy the 7800gtx because they can even if its not much faster than x850xt

[deception``]

the 7800gtx gets 9000 marks overclocked, stock is not even 8000. people will buy the 7800gtx because they can even if its not much faster than x850xt

At the moment, we have no finalized performance measures on these cards. Also, you are comparing a stock 7800GTX to 2 heavily-overclocked x850 cards in Crossifre; clearly, we can see what the problem is here. Anyhow, you are doing nothing more than your usual speculation-trick, but it is not welcome here. I'd say keep your assumptions to yourself until we see some retail samples.

deception``

[cooper15]

"a stock 7800GTX to 2 heavily-overclocked x850 cards in Crossifre;"


umm there have been many x850xt-pe's that have broken 8k by themselves in 3dmark05. also if you want to get technical i believe right now the record for crossfire is like 15k with 2 x850xt-pe's

[Sentential]

"a stock 7800GTX to 2 heavily-overclocked x850 cards in Crossifre;"


umm there have been many x850xt-pe's that have broken 8k by themselves in 3dmark05. also if you want to get technical i believe right now the record for crossfire is like 15k with 2 x850xt-pe's
Name one that was on stock cooling. <you wont find one on anything less than chilled water>

[hainer36]

ok...i really dont get why everyone has to have this new card right away...how much better can gaming get before we are just playing a movie? i might get yelled at for that, but seriously, the technology cant get much better, they probably have the cards that are perfect for everything already...but the fact they wanna make money so they just put out a crappier card until they drop down to half the original price then, another slightly better card comes out...am i the only one that is sick of people saying, "i must have this so i get 1-3 more frames per second" ? i mean, when i jumped from my 9200SE to my 6800GT i saw a big difference, but who really games that much that they need a $600-700 card...and if ya do game that much, how are you paying the bills?

[deception``]

"a stock 7800GTX to 2 heavily-overclocked x850 cards in Crossifre;"


umm there have been many x850xt-pe's that have broken 8k by themselves in 3dmark05. also if you want to get technical i believe right now the record for crossfire is like 15k with 2 x850xt-pe's

Even so, comparing a stock video card to one that was most likely volt-modded and placed under extreme cooling is like comparing apples and oranges.

Honestly that's a pretty uninformed comment if you ask me.

Wouldn't you expect P4C 3.0 @ 3.75 Ghz to outperform a stock 3.0E :confused:

deception``

[Sjaak]

Guys take it easy.

Stop the speculating stop the hard language and wait for the release.

[p|astic]

ok...i really dont get why everyone has to have this new card right away...how much better can gaming get before
Gah, looks like my radeon might be staying a little while longer
ah well, well see
i'll wait til these prices drop.
Time to see if the price drops
give it a month for the market to drop prices to Sug. retail
Pre-order prices are gouged worse then then actual in-stock items

if you've trained your eyes to see past 100hz, you'd be able to tell how much better gaming can get. 80 frames in insufficient for a real, devout gamer.
also, money is not an issue for some people. it's their prerogative when, and whether they buy the card or not.

[Knivez]

if you've trained your eyes to see past 100hz, you'd be able to tell how much better gaming can get. 80 frames in insufficient for a real, devout gamer.
also, money is not an issue for some people. it's their prerogative when, and whether they buy the card or not.

And would you mind sharing how you 'train your eyes to see past 100hz'.

[GáTê©rÀ$Hë®]

Reason y i said its cheaper than i expected is bcoz x850s
r stilll on dat price range.
http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prodList.asp?idcategory=400

When x800 - x850 r new, they were like 1000+ for the price.

[Sjaak]

if you've trained your eyes to see past 100hz, you'd be able to tell how much better gaming can get. 80 frames in insufficient for a real, devout gamer.
also, money is not an issue for some people. it's their prerogative when, and whether they buy the card or not.

It's not something you can 'train' either you have it or you don't. Eyes aren't adaptive nerves, except for light brightness

So anyone who is satisfied by 60 frames isn't a real gamer? Kind of a lame statement if y'ask me.

I would own you on BF2 with 40 frames...so hush :)

[Mr.Guvernment]

i dont recall the x800 ever being over $1000 new - is this in US ? the omst i saw was around $600.


p|astic - very true - some people do actually have money, or a very good job and spending $1000 or more on video cards is not a big thing.

[Knivez]

IMHO real devout gamers are people who will play the game at horribly crappy framerates. I played CS 1.5 at 11 FPS :P.

[jtlee75]

IMHO real devout gamers are people who will play the game at horribly crappy framerates. I played CS 1.5 at 11 FPS :P.


I would say that it would take a real love of the the game or just out right extreme boredom. I couldn't do it for very long. Our lan parties last 10-12 hours straight. Twice a month.

[FalconBlade]

This is why I stayed on the cheap side and got this 6200 (6600). Once the prices drop on these and AMD dual cores start taking off, I'll be building a new rig.

-Fb

[speed bump]

We will know a riduculous amount about these cards tommorow as the NDA is lifted, we will also see just how fast these are Sampsa @XS apparently has some and will be showing some evil numbers tommorow.

[enduro]

traing your eyes to see a different frequency.........interesting stuff

I just want to see some performance tests

[p|astic]

i remember playing cs 1.6 w/ 100 frames and seeing no choppyness at all. simply play a game with 400+ frames, and your monitor at 160hz for a couple months, then play a game @ 100 frames and you can easily see a HUGE difference. it's a game i play with my friends "guess the hz this monitor is running". of course i can't tell the diff between 72 and 75. but 60 (obviously), 75, 85, 100, and 144 hz there are big defferences. i can't see past 120 or so frames, but i can feel it. if you play @80 hz, you aren't seeing whats actually happening. this fact is evident in timing based games like dance dance (step mania in this case). when the arrows line up, you hit a button, but with ~80 frames, the timing is severely skewed. and with higher frames, the more accurately aligned are what you see and what the game "see's". this isn't ad hominem here, im not saying YOU'RE not a "true" gamer if you can't see lag at 100 frames. im saying, an extraordinarilly devout gamer cuts no corners. lack of fluidity in 80 frames is quite evident once your eyes/brain are/is trained to see past it.
sry for saying lame things.

[baberpervez]

WOW thats exspensive.. lmao how much further can i push this POS card :p

hahahahah!

[baberpervez]

Question is, will it be more pricey than the ASUS (or Gigabyte) Dual 6800 Ultras?

Benchmarks already have revealed the 7800GTX only managin 7800 Points in 3DMark 05 whereas the Dual 6800's reach 9500.

Eitehr I spend another 600 Canadian on another 6800 Ultra and get the same 10k mark score through your basic SLI or

sell the one I have for the 7800 GTX (or Dual 6800) for only a mere 400 dollars more.. Either way its a little too much performance for games that don't really require that much power to begin with.

Come on! Why must we be always upgrading every 6 months? Or is that only an odd argument running around in my head alone??

I just got this Ultra 2 months ago!!


NOOOOOOOOOOo you damn capitalists..

Must..

Resist....

Consumerism...


? help?

[baberpervez]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24068

Go ahead and take a look at the performance marks for this card.

"9000 marks in 3dmark05 at stock speeds. <<<<what most of the 3dmark scores are comming out to be"

WHERE IN THE WORLD ARE YOU GETTING THESE FIGURES??

IN SLI mode, teh 7800GTX only gets 12000 (over your 10,000 with 6800 Ultra's that's only 2,000 difference), so don't count on being Amazed.

[Streifenkarl]

Stop talking to yourself man. :rolleyes:

[Sjaak]

I am losing focus here.

[cooper15]

ok im not positive on this but cant the human mind process only about 30 fps anyway?

[Sjaak]

ok im not positive on this but cant the human mind process only about 30 fps anyway?

No, that is a myth. That is just what looks smooth to us on a TV. (because of the way a normal TV displays things)

In other circumstances, with other displays the limit for most people is between 50 and 80FPS.

[hainer36]

.......Come on! Why must we be always upgrading every 6 months? Or is that only an odd argument running around in my head alone??
I just got this Ultra 2 months ago!!
NOOOOOOOOOOo you damn capitalists..
Must..
Resist....
Consumerism...
? help?

im on your side of that arguement...why do we NEED to upgrade to something that cost double of what we spent originally to upgrade 6 months before...if it is that good why dont we just upgrade every 2-3 years...unlike some with amazing amounts of cash(i hate you :D) but i said this before...so i will stop

[p|astic]

ok im not positive on this but cant the human mind process only about 30 fps anyway?
if you shot a single frame that was 1/120th of a second long onto a wall, you could see it. if your monitor is @ 60 hz, can you see it flashing? same thing with a movie theater screen. i can't guarentee movies are played at 60 fps, but i can say it's something close. it kills my eyes to see the entire screen flashing. but eventually after watching it for so long the flashing goes away. same concept with higher fps. once you get used to them, that's what seems normal, and anything lower becomes choppy.

should i make a new thread on this, because i firmly belive you can see way past 60-80 fps. i want to see what other people think. does anyone else see flashing at 60-80 fps? or am i crazy?...wait. im talkin crt here (just for clarification). maybe my monitor sucks. i didn't think so when i bought it, it's a samsung SynchMaster997.

[Sjaak]

should i make a new thread on this, because i firmly belive you can see way past 60-80 fps. i want to see what other people think. does anyone else see flashing at 60-80 fps? or am i crazy?...wait. im talkin crt here (just for clarification). maybe my monitor sucks. i didn't think so when i bought it, it's a samsung SynchMaster997.

It depends on your monitor.

Personally, i get migraine when i watch 60Hz CRT too long. It really hurts my eyes.

[p|astic]

have you been talkin' about lcd this whole time? lol im an idiot

[Sjaak]

have you been talkin' about lcd this whole time? lol im an idiot

No you're not. I'm talking about computer CRT. TV-CRT is different but 60Hz still makes me cry there.

[Knivez]

an extraordinarilly devout gamer cuts no corners.
So are you telling me I can't be a devout gamer without spending loads of money on hardware :shrug:

[Goateh]

Hell, I'm a devout gamer. Damned if I'm going to spend oodles of money on everything :/

[p|astic]

this isn't ad hominem here, im not saying YOU'RE not a "true" gamer
you're interpretting what im saying as a personal attack, which it isn't. im saying, if you played competitively, for thousands of dollars, or if playing games was your job (devout), you can cut no corners.

[Goateh]

Yeah, but those peopel usually have sponsors. Alas, we don't :(

[p|astic]

lol, true dat..."here wear our shirt, and put our logo on your site, and we'll give you a 6800u...for each member of the team"