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Pf.Farnsworth
07-07-05, 06:08 PM
are there any waterblocks for system ram? I looked around and it doesnt seem like there is anything on the market. But I would think someone would have tried something on here, with people like Cathar its only a matter of time. :santa:

SewerBeing
07-07-05, 06:12 PM
its not needed. They are only added restriction in a loop so it hurts overall performance. A simple fan is more than good enough for them since they do not put out much heat.

Pf.Farnsworth
07-07-05, 06:33 PM
i thought so too but man my ram gets insenly hot lol

big_dish
07-07-05, 07:10 PM
SVC sells water ram coolers: AkwaFlo (http://www.svcompucycle.com/chipsetwaterblocks.html)

I feel the same way though...Air would be fine. Either strap on your own fan or buy the Thermaltake Active Memory Cooling (http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/memory/a1165.htm) to cool it off.

SewerBeing
07-07-05, 07:32 PM
Just strap on a fan of your choice and you are good to go. BTW I cooled my PC4000VX at 3.5V with air and it was just slightly warm to the touch.

CCUABIDExORxDIE
07-07-05, 07:35 PM
i thought so too but man my ram gets insenly hot lol

what ram do you have? it sounds like you have ballistix or some other Micron based ram. those get hotter then BH-5 or UTT or anything, its insane.

Brinnswift
10-31-05, 12:35 PM
I know w/cing ram isnt terribly necessary but I'm running some mushkin redline at 3.5v and that stuff get's hot, and though I could just put a fan in i've already got a wc rig and I'm thinking, why not use it. I've got the MCP655 pump so I dont think ram would kill my flow that much. My question comes in on this, the AkwaFlo RAM Coolers seem to only go on one side of the ram, will this still cool effectively?

sunrunner20
10-31-05, 06:35 PM
If you cool ram, you've got to cool both sides else its pointless. Ram chips cover both sides of the ram, can't just cool one set of chips and exepect the other side to be happy.

honhon
10-31-05, 09:32 PM
If you cool ram, you've got to cool both sides else its pointless. Ram chips cover both sides of the ram, can't just cool one set of chips and exepect the other side to be happy.

lol, one side will be nice and cool and the other side will be ****ed. :rolleyes:

Brinnswift
10-31-05, 10:05 PM
That what I was thinking, so that ram cooler by akwa flow is pretty pointless since it only covers half the ram...

thorilan
11-01-05, 02:37 AM
the biggest reason for why not is not because it adds to system resistance. most people willing to use them would do so in a seperate loop if it impacted cooling of other parts to much.
the big reason is fabrication is increadably dificult with all the diferent board configs out there so in some cases a block cant fit because the ram is to close together. otherwise oem makers would already be flooding the market with them

felinusz
11-01-05, 04:03 AM
I saw a good 5 MHz gain to my memory overclock by simply epoxying copper heatsinks to my memory chips.

A slight improvement in memory cooling can and usually does make a signifigant difference; there have been some very successful peltiered RAM watercooling projects in the past, for example.

The RAM waterblocks that are available on the market (that Aquaflow block for example) are poorly designed and inefficient - do not watse your money on them :-/.

If I were to implement RAM watercooling I would do so on an isolated loop with a small pump and a double 80mm radiator. The problem is designing an effective waterblock.


Here is an idea that I had, which would work really well with some flexible 1/4" ID tubing and a small radiator.

thorilan
11-01-05, 06:48 AM
if you have enough room to fit it on .

i have seen 1 set of ram blocks specifically designed for the NF7s2 that cooled all the ram from 1 block BUT not only did the owner say it took 40 hours to make the block but it took 3 hours just to get the ram and block installed . for that kind of monumental effort ( the moajority of the problems being space bwtween the ram) a low speed 120mm fam and copper heat sinks would do you just as well

thorilan
11-01-05, 06:49 AM
oh and he had to use copper shims to get the blocks to perfectly aline and touch the water block which cuts down on the effectiveness a little

Otter
11-01-05, 02:19 PM
Watercooling RAM doesn't make sense in most cases, but a few people do it. I haven't seen any commercial RAM blocks that make sense, but I have seen copper heatspreaders with copper tubing brazed on. How well this works I can't say, but as RAM doesn't make that much heat (even if it gets rather hot without active cooling) and it has far more surface area than CPU, even a rather crude waterblock would probably get the job done. Of course, you want to be sure that the tubing doesn't put too much torque on the RAM.

I agree that a RAM block doesn't belong on the same loop with the CPU and GPU, but if you want to have only one pump and radiator, you could install a T so that the main loop goes straight through, and the RAM loop is at right angles. The restriction for the main loop won't be too bad, and for the other loop you might actually need a valve or other deliberate restriction to keep it from drawing more flow than it needs. If you want to watercool your chipset, hard drives, and other things that don't need much cooling, you could put them on the side loop too. Someone around here did that and said it worked well for him.

Silmatharien
11-01-05, 04:26 PM
No point in water cooling your RAM. It would hurt performance way too much plus you couldn't justify it with the heat that RAM puts out.